2022-23 SW D1

SWO RPI

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Score projections based on RPI for tonight's games...
Walnut Hills over Anderson 58-34
West Clermont over Kings 50-40
Winton Woods over Little Miami 56-37
Loveland over Lebanon 46-45
Milford over Turpin 51-41

Bellbrook over Monroe by 31
 

SWO RPI

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Score projections based on RPI and Tempo Data for Saturday's games...

Princeton over Colerain 77-41
Fairfield over Hamilton 54-35
Lakota West over Sycamore 52-36
Mason over Middletown 59-34
Lakota East over Oak Hills 60-27
Kings over Winton Woods 45-44
Talawanda over Harrison 54-41
Centerville over Northmont 70-47
Springboro over Springfield 46-32
Fairmont over Miamisburg 56-41
Beavercreek over Wayne 44-43
West Carrollton over Piqua 60-36
Butler over Troy 48-23
Sidney over Xenia 58-40
Stebbins over Fairborn 33-23
 

SWOHHSfan

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Sycamore with recent wins over Loveland and @ Lakota West.
VERY young team (inconsistent, hence loss at Little Miami) looks to be getting much better as season progresses.

Where do you Seed them?
 
Sycamore with recent wins over Loveland and @ Lakota West.
VERY young team (inconsistent, hence loss at Little Miami) looks to be getting much better as season progresses.

Where do you Seed them?
they will be seeded pretty low since they are 6-12. Its a matchup thing with them, as they sit in zone all game and only play 5 kids. If you arent making shots, they can stay close and give you problems
 

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Sycamore with recent wins over Loveland and @ Lakota West.
VERY young team (inconsistent, hence loss at Little Miami) looks to be getting much better as season progresses.

Where do you Seed them?
Wouldn't necessarily call them young, as 60% of the players that play are seniors, but just lack any depth. Literally playing 5 players if they aren't in foul trouble. Shown the ability to play most teams close, and finally got one against West. Should be seeded 19-22.
 

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I think Wednesday nights results are included but not 100%. What’s everyone’s top 10 as of today??
1 Mason 74.657
2 Lakota East 73.593
3 West Clermont 70.224
4 Princeton 70.026
5 Mount Notre Dame 63.356
6 Talawanda 63.306
7 Lakota West 60.140
8 Loveland 59.115
9 Kings 57.509
10 Walnut Hills 55.510
 
Interesting the RPI has MND over Talawanda. I honestly think MND may get 5 and Talawanda gets 6 simply because MND has name recognition and storied program. There will be coaches in the sectional that won't do their analyzing and vote MND higher because of that. Sad but true. One of the many reasons seeds should be given based off a data system or committee.
 

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Interesting the RPI has MND over Talawanda. I honestly think MND may get 5 and Talawanda gets 6 simply because MND has name recognition and storied program. There will be coaches in the sectional that won't do their analyzing and vote MND higher because of that. Sad but true. One of the many reasons seeds should be given based off a data system or committee.
I'd argue that more coaches that do their research would vote MND over Talawanda. Nothing against Talawanda, as they have taken care of business every night. But strength of schedule is the big separator. Out of the 33 teams in the Cincy regional, MND's SOS is 7th, Talawanda's is 29th. The GGCL is down, but MND's 4 losses are to 2 Top 10 teams in Ohio and 2 Top 10 teams in KY.

It is honestly so close though. I would not think twice if Talawanda ends up 5 and MND 6. And it reality, it doesn't matter. Those 2 (and probably whoever ends up 7th) will be in the same sectional bracket.
 
I'd argue that more coaches that do their research would vote MND over Talawanda. Nothing against Talawanda, as they have taken care of business every night. But strength of schedule is the big separator. Out of the 33 teams in the Cincy regional, MND's SOS is 7th, Talawanda's is 29th. The GGCL is down, but MND's 4 losses are to 2 Top 10 teams in Ohio and 2 Top 10 teams in KY.

It is honestly so close though. I would not think twice if Talawanda ends up 5 and MND 6. And it reality, it doesn't matter. Those 2 (and probably whoever ends up 7th) will be in the same sectional bracket.
i agree with that. 5 and 6 doesnt matter, they will be together. do you have the full list updated after the top 10?
 

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i agree with that. 5 and 6 doesnt matter, they will be together. do you have the full list updated after the top 10?
1 Mason 74.657
2 Lakota East 73.593
3 West Clermont 70.224
4 Princeton 70.026
5 Mount Notre Dame 63.356
6 Talawanda 63.306
7 Lakota West 60.140
8 Loveland 59.115
9 Kings 57.509
10 Walnut Hills 55.510
11 Harrison 55.020
12 Lebanon 54.119
13 Winton Woods 53.015
14 Western Brown 52.797
15 Oak Hills 52.698
16 Fairfield 52.534
17 Milford 51.648
18 Mt. Healthy 50.999
19 Sycamore 49.458
20 Seton 48.497
21 Middletown 47.875
22 Colerain 45.510
23 St. Ursula 41.725
24 Edgewood 41.341
25 Ross 38.418
26 Turpin 37.578
27 Ursuline 36.189
28 Little Miami 32.644
29 Hamilton 31.389
30 Western Hills 30.134
31 Anderson 28.994
32 Monroe 26.371
33 Northwest 13.486
 

AmeliaB2020

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1 Mason 74.657
2 Lakota East 73.593
3 West Clermont 70.224
4 Princeton 70.026
5 Mount Notre Dame 63.356
6 Talawanda 63.306
7 Lakota West 60.140
8 Loveland 59.115
9 Kings 57.509
10 Walnut Hills
1 Mason 74.657
2 Lakota East 73.593
3 West Clermont 70.224
4 Princeton 70.026
5 Mount Notre Dame 63.356
6 Talawanda 63.306
7 Lakota West 60.140
8 Loveland 59.115
9 Kings 57.509
10 Walnut Hills 55.510
11 Harrison 55.020
12 Lebanon 54.119
13 Winton Woods 53.015
14 Western Brown 52.797
15 Oak Hills 52.698
16 Fairfield 52.534
17 Milford 51.648
18 Mt. Healthy 50.999
19 Sycamore 49.458
20 Seton 48.497
21 Middletown 47.875
22 Colerain 45.510
23 St. Ursula 41.725
24 Edgewood 41.341
25 Ross 38.418
26 Turpin 37.578
27 Ursuline 36.189
28 Little Miami 32.644
29 Hamilton 31.389
30 Western Hills 30.134
31 Anderson 28.994
32 Monroe 26.371
33 Northwest 13.486
Didn’t you post last week if WC remains undefeated they’d be 1? So they beat Kings (9) on the road Thursday to go to 18-0 and are 8-0 against teams in this top 15 and East is 5-1 against the top 15, WC has a head to head win over East, a win against state #8 Magnificat, and are still ranked lower?
 

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Didn’t you post last week if WC remains undefeated they’d be 1? So they beat Kings (9) on the road Thursday to go to 18-0 and are 8-0 against teams in this top 15 and East is 5-1 against the top 15, WC has a head to head win over East, a win against state #8 Magnificat, and are still ranked lower?
Said they would be 1 in tournament seeding
 

JUSTGOPLAY

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Didn’t you post last week if WC remains undefeated they’d be 1? So they beat Kings (9) on the road Thursday to go to 18-0 and are 8-0 against teams in this top 15 and East is 5-1 against the top 15, WC has a head to head win over East, a win against state #8 Magnificat, and are still ranked lower?
Let it go AmeliaBaron......you guys might go undefeated state champs, but you're never gonna' be ranked higher than 3rd or 4th in these polls they keep runnin' out here.
 
Current on Martin's RPI
1. West Clermont
2. Mason
3. Lakota East
4. Talawanda
5. Princeton
6. MND
7. Western Brown
8. Kings
9. Loveland
10. Harrison
11. Walnut Hills
12. Winton Woods
13. Lakota West
14. Lebanon
15. Milford
 

SWO RPI

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Current on Martin's RPI
1. West Clermont
2. Mason
3. Lakota East
4. Talawanda
5. Princeton
6. MND
7. Western Brown
8. Kings
9. Loveland
10. Harrison
11. Walnut Hills
12. Winton Woods
13. Lakota West
14. Lebanon
15. Milford
Updated Top 15 after Monday (Pwr Rnk shows how close some of these teams are)

Seed Team Pwr Rnk
1 Mason 74.574
2 Lakota East 73.481
3 West Clermont 70.504
4 Princeton 69.859
5 Mount Notre Dame 63.424
6 Talawanda 63.292
7 Lakota West 59.883
8 Loveland 59.837
9 Kings 58.514
10 Harrison 55.872
11 Walnut Hills 54.382
12 Milford 53.733
13 Western Brown 53.289
14 Mt. Healthy 53.229
15 Lebanon 52.895
 
If an ECC or GMC team is closely ranked to a team from another league, it is going to go to the ECC or GMC team. Larger conferences and those teams usually stick together and vote one another higher than a non-conf team. Example: Lebanon will be higher than Mt Healthy and probably even Harrison.
 

SWOHHSfan

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Top 25 MaxPreps

Mason ranked #24 in latest MaxPreps US rankings 1/24/23
They used to rank everyone, but only Top 25 now.
WC would probably be in Top 100 since they’re only .2 pts behind Mason.

Looks like win vs Bolingbrook (IL) meant a lot to MaxPreps.
 
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Dayton Daily News article on the D-1 race for top seed in the Miami Valley.

Good article. Dayton is definitely a log jam at the top! Here is the Dayton rankings according to RPI (SWO, not Martin)

Seed Team Pwr Rnk
1 Fairmont 58.156
2 Centerville 57.544
3 Bellbrook 56.928
4 Springboro 56.506
5 Butler 55.622
6 Beavercreek 55.338
7 Sidney 53.590
8 Wayne 53.143
9 West Carrollton 51.333
10 Chaminade Julienne 47.857
11 Miamisburg 44.204
12 Springfield 39.775
13 Xenia 36.476
14 Troy 34.719
15 Stebbins 34.712
16 Ponitz 34.710
17 Northmont 30.647
18 Piqua 25.698
19 Fairborn 19.467
 

coltfan76

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Updated Top 15 after Monday (Pwr Rnk shows how close some of these teams are)

Seed Team Pwr Rnk
1 Mason 74.574
2 Lakota East 73.481
3 West Clermont 70.504
4 Princeton 69.859
5 Mount Notre Dame 63.424
6 Talawanda 63.292
7 Lakota West 59.883
8 Loveland 59.837
9 Kings 58.514
10 Harrison 55.872
11 Walnut Hills 54.382
12 Milford 53.733
13 Western Brown 53.289
14 Mt. Healthy 53.229
15 Lebanon 52.895
Any ranking that has East that far ahead of West Clermont is kind of a joke to me. WC has a better record and a head to head win.
 
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