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Historically speaking.
They need that dynamic offensive mind/talent from a coach.Reading between the lines, this seems logical to me as well. Coaches weren't given opportunities to improve or to change what was found. That's probably the part that feels the most difficult to stomach.
From a pure football perspective, I do think this hurts the program overall. Not just from losing a head coach with a lot of experience, or how this was handled, I think both coordinators were good at coaching their specialty. I personally think the OC was outstanding. He did a lot to help kids get exposure to recruiting for one. He also was very detailed with how he coached the offense and on how he coached each player personally. I expected him to eventually be a potential head coach at VV in the future. The DC coached one of the stronger classes, the current Soph more class, when they were in middle school. Many in the community pointed towards that group as being the next great VV class. That also feels a little empty now losing him as they hit their two prime years in football.
At VV, many in the community get blinded by those state championships in the 90's. So every season they think it's a chance for another state title. But since Jay Niswonger left, the teams that actually have state championship quality teams have been few and far between. BUT, with that being said, the past 4-5 years have produced some of the best VV teams in the past 15 years. Teams that are building towards state championship type runs. Those were under Coach Stid and these two coordinators. You could make an argument that the VV team that lost to CM in 2017 (20-28), was the third best team in the state. The winner of that CM/VV game felt like they would play for state, which Clinton Massie did, ultimately losing to Steubenville. The 2019 VV team was one of the better teams in DIV that season. Beating both Roger Bacon and CM before losing to eventual state champion Wyoming. And I think you can argue that the 2020 VV team was one of the better teams in DIV losing in the Regional Final to Wyoming in 2OTs. From my perspective, the program was actually meeting higher standards on the field recently, has a great class heading towards their junior season, and now will lose what many view, are very quality coaches.
They need that dynamic offensive mind/talent from a coach.
I can't believe Chad Murphy isn't being discussed more. In my opinion, hes one of the best high school coaches out there. He turned around Hamilton and built a program, before being canned when he was getting his best talent. He's been at the high school level from all top divisions as a coordinator, has coached around many coaches, and has been at the college level. I think he should be at the top of the list for many schools.
THAT would be interesting. That is how small schools win state championships; dynamic coaches develop dynamic players such as qb. Just imagine if Madison had developed a qb that could throw a 10 yard screen pass.VV usually does. Then again, I think their OC did a fine job with that. Maybe they'll reach out to Coach Niswonger. He's a VV legend, still coaching as OC at Beavercreek. It would be a full circle to bring him back.
I wouldn’t say that. Jay came back at a difficult time a few years ago to help coach valley view during two a daysJay won't come back. His pride was hurt last time. Just my opinion.
Personally I don’t think he’ll come back unless there’s like a short term thing to fill-in he told me himself it’s a different time it’s really really hard to coach in this time. I’ll parents think their kids going proDo they want Jay back? Not like he was killing it when he left..
Do they want Jay back? Not like he was killing it when he left..
A lot of dirty stuff is going on From the school board. I guess they had a deal work out to bring all the coaches back from last year and then one the school board members decided to change the his vote Now I said their going to ago in a different direction with coachingTo be honest, I haven't heard anything about the new coaching search. Seems very quiet. I think there was still hope of things not going that route.
Lol jeezeDo they want Jay back? Not like he was killing it when he left..
There was a board member that had a pudgy 5’11” son that played basketball who had received a letter from Bobby Knight (The General). That is how whacked out some of those people have to be.A lot of dirty stuff is going on From the school board. I guess they had a deal work out to bring all the coaches back from last year and then one the school board members decided to change the his vote Now I said their going to ago in a different direction with coaching
Mike Kilroy been trying to warn the Community for years but noone listens and after they get the school levy passed everything Mike said came true. Mike was so frustrated he tried to run for the SB but someone wrote Anonymous letter to the Dayton daily news saying at Mike was a sexual predator with no proof the Dayton daily news Publish the story anyways ( he is currently soon right now) Mike is not likable but he is really smart and everything he said came trueSo the VV saga continues. The AD steps down to go back and be a teacher. Also, the superintendent is going to teach a life skills class. Doesn't he have more to worry about?
Your way off baseWow this thread has gotten so out of control. First things first coach Skidmore QUIT. Its been told that he was ask to clean some things up,and didn’t. So instead of trying to work out the situation it is been told that he resigned. If you listen close enough there is alot of dirty laundry out there to go around. I am pretty sure those people envolved don’t want that spread all over the internet, but maybe I am wrong. But some of the things that was said early on were way off base and offensive to the community. One way or another once again wins are so much more important then teaching good character, we have enough spoiled athletes already but hey what do I know just somebody with an opinion like every one else on her.
Wow this thread has gotten so out of control. First things first coach Skidmore QUIT. Its been told that he was ask to clean some things up,and didn’t. So instead of trying to work out the situation it is been told that he resigned. If you listen close enough there is alot of dirty laundry out there to go around. I am pretty sure those people envolved don’t want that spread all over the internet, but maybe I am wrong. But some of the things that was said early on were way off base and offensive to the community. One way or another once again wins are so much more important then teaching good character, we have enough spoiled athletes already but hey what do I know just somebody with an opinion like every one else on her.
Really? First you say you were told that it was racism, and now you are trying to say that a person who was totally against newer schools and up to date technologies Was right about what. That after they get new schools that they are going to want people who represent the schools to act the right way? And by the way most of the people who runs for school boards have a agenda unfortunately. And sir I know a whole lot more about this sit than you can imagine!Your way off base
Hey tell us about it then what’s going onReally? First you say you were told that it was racism, and now you are trying to say that a person who was totally against newer schools and up to date technologies Was right about what. That after they get new schools that they are going to want people who represent the schools to act the right way? And by the way most of the people who runs for school boards have a agenda unfortunately. And sir I know a whole lot more about this sit than you can imagine!
You’re a new user on this board so do tellHey tell us about it then what’s going on