Modell had wanted to build a new stadium on property he owned in Strongsville, but could never get the financing.
That is true.
Modell had wanted to build a new stadium on property he owned in Strongsville, but could never get the financing.
The reson the old stadium didn't sell out was because 20,000 seats were just plain horrible. Everything in the lower deck next to the baseball diamond were at a low pitch so you could not see much and when the suites were built in the '70s it made viewinig any pass or kick in the lower deck higher rows worthless. I think TVs were added and many folks just sat there and watched them instead of the live action on the field. Dog Pound was the best seat in the house.
People are criticizing the Browns for not planning a moment of silence. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Literally anyone who has been to one game knows what would happen.
Doubtful considering the eras when teams like the Dolphins, Steelers, Niners, Bears (cultlike following in mid '80s) were winning titles. Packers in the '60s. They never won enough under Modell for the brand to take off like the others.Other than maybe the Cowboys, there was no bigger fanbase in the NFL t that time than the Browns.
I thought he was initially offered a spot at the table when Gateway was still in it's early concepts -- this was way before the final design of Jacobs Field and Gund Arena. The idea was to either build a multipurpose football/baseball facility or two separate places next to each other, ala Kansas City. I remember a quote in the paper, something like "We're not planning to move up there [Gateway]" -- this is what morphed into the Cavs getting a new arena and Modell being 'ignored' by the city.
Doubtful considering the eras when teams like the Dolphins, Steelers, Niners, Bears (cultlike following in mid '80s) were winning titles. Packers in the '60s. They never won enough under Modell for the brand to take off like the others.
People are criticizing the Browns for not planning a moment of silence. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Literally anyone who has been to one game knows what would happen.
I never said he was a great business man, learn to read. He made a great business move by getting out of that mistake on the lake that is Cleveland. He made a great move by leaving that stench of a city and ended up getting a championship for it in return. The curse is real and instead of trying to fight through he took the smart way out
You're forgetting the Browns eight championships. During the Modell Era there were still plenty of fans around from those Browns championships in the 50's & 60's.
sory sorry sorry to all of you living in the past --atrthur b modell is WORTHY of induction into the pro football hall of fame --its a shame that he will be inducted post mortem ( slayer )--- YES -he moved the team ...YES its hard to let that go , but we are now two owners removed from the modell era and its time to pay the man some respect --- try not to be be drunken loser fans for a moment ...just be nice loser fans and show some class ..his body isnt even cold yet
So to paraphrase... you're a troll from cincy trying to get a rise out of Browns fans. Whoa - there's something new... :thumb:
Perhaps, but as TV coverage grew with MNF and more games and coverage on cable, fans new to the sport gravitated to the better teams. I would guess in the 60s fan loyalty was pretty regional with high-profile teams like the Packers and Browns getting picking up gaps. Once the 70's hit and beyond, I don't think there's any way the Browns were one of the top two in terms of following in the nation.You're forgetting the Browns eight championships. During the Modell Era there were still plenty of fans around from those Browns championships in the 50's & 60's.
Hmmmmmm...Know anybody with a small plane and a banner?A moment of silence would be a disaster.
Brian Billick needs to shut his hole saying stuff like 'Cleveland DROVE Modell out of the city" and "he had no choice." Taking his potshots at Cleveland every chance he had in that interview too.
I would expect no less from a Ravens fan...:Ohno:
A moment of silence would be a disaster.
Brian Billick needs to shut his hole saying stuff like 'Cleveland DROVE Modell out of the city" and "he had no choice." Taking his potshots at Cleveland every chance he had in that interview too.
sory sorry sorry to all of you living in the past --atrthur b modell is WORTHY of induction into the pro football hall of fame --its a shame that he will be inducted post mortem ( slayer )--- YES -he moved the team ...YES its hard to let that go , but we are now two owners removed from the modell era and its time to pay the man some respect --- try not to be be drunken loser fans for a moment ...just be nice loser fans and show some class ..his body isnt even cold yet
You're not a Falcons fan. You've never once posted anything about the Falcons. GTFO.Ravnes ???? I am not a Raven s fan solely ... I do like the Ravens but am prmarily a Falcons fan ..so my comments have nothing to do with being a fan of any team ...its the facts BR ---- the facts are tha Modell is just as great as wellington mara or the rooney family etc.... he got the TV deals done where we might not have MNF as we have had it in the past and today --Art was a pioneer .... he is hated in cleveland but so is LeBron and LeBron will be the best ever and go into the hall of fame ..so cleveland fans need to just let it go ...Art left and went where he had the support of a city to win and within no time ,,the Ravens won the Superbowl...just like LeBron left and won ...deal with it
You're not a Falcons fan. You've never once posted anything about the Falcons. GTFO.
For what?
You're not a Falcons fan. You've never once posted anything about the Falcons. GTFO.
whatever dude ... i was a falcons fan since the steve bartkowski era ... I was a HUGE Andre Rision fan..... and hated Icky Woods for stealing "the dirty bird" dance and calling it his own icky shuffle which he ripped off of the falcons