I think if you check I never said it would over turn the Biden win. I believe I said the fraud and cheating should over turn the results of the election. I still feel that way today. To be honest I do not know how long Biden will last as President. but in till he is gone and his VP is gone I will alway feel he did not win the election fairly.
Why do people VOTE FOR?
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If you have enugh money you could even become Trumps neighbor. Would that not be fun?
Proof. As you know the Courts and members of his own party deny all this garbage. The man was caught in lies every single day he was in office. But now, he’s telling the truth, and without proof?
psycho_dad
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Not true with me. Always support school levy's. And, typically, the more I have paid in taxes, the better things have been. Don't mind paying taxes at all if things are smooth. I do work that used to take me all over the state. There are times I drove in parts of Cleveland where the roads were so bad I was muttering to myself that I'd be irate if this was my community and roads were this bad. I had a place I had to visit two times and sustained damage to my car/tires both times. ON A STATE ROUTE. What about the people that live there every day? Taxes are not necessarily a bad thing. They would never allow the state route I grew up on to be in that condition. We should be more concerned that taxes be used fairly and not to help out Honda while doing little for Euclid.
hubman
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- Higher Taxes
- Seeing as we are being taxed at the lowest levels in almost 60 years (Before 45 entered office), we could use higher revenue to rebuild our infrastructure, whittle the debt and support our citizens like most industrialized nations (universal healthcare, affordable secondary education). Not to mention how Republican tax plans seem to favor the wealthy. That famous Trump tax cut is permanent for the big businesses only temporary for average Americans
- https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2011/06/pdf/low_tax_graphs.pdf
- Tax revenue is at its lowest level since 1950 (This was in 2011)
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...-lower-tax-rate-than-working-class-last-year/
- https://prospect.org/power/two-biggest-lies-donald-trump-s-tax-plan/
- “If President Trump's middle-class tax cuts are a complicated mix of cuts and increases in the short run, the longer-term picture is quite clear: Trump will increase personal income taxes on just about everyone. After 2025,”
2. Losing jobs to China
- Thanks’ to 45’s tariff policies, voting for him meant a vote for hemorrhaging jobs to China.
- https://www.americanmanufacturing.org/blog/u-s-job-loss-to-china-swells-to-3-7-million/
- Workers saw 3.7 million U.S. jobs lost to China since 2001, with more than 700,000 lost in the first two years of Donald Trump’s presidency, according to a study released Thursday by the Economic Policy Institute (EPI).
3.Weak Military
- Even with a 25% funding cut how weak really would our military be compared to the rest of the world
4.Borders without safety- More of a vote for a humane immigration program, as opposed to lets see how cruel we can be (caging kids, lets deport middle aged people back to countries they haven’t been to since they were in pampers)
5. Life without Religious Freedom- More of a vote for all religious freedom as opposed to Christianity or the highway
6.Big Tech control- I trust Elizabeth Warren wrangling Big Tech for the people more than I do anybody on the other side of the aisle
7. DEPENDENCY ON OIL FROM FOREIGN OIL ( BRINGS WARS)- The trajectory for independence on oil started way before 45 got in office and Energy independence was pretty much complete by the time he was inaugurated he just didn’t upset the applecart
8 More REGULATION- I kind of like clean water, fresh air, and safe products
9. UNFAIR TRADE
- I’m sure there can be some common ground found on this one on both sides of the aisle.
Xenophobes apparently..... Even though I agreed when Obama and Trump put restrictions on travel from certain countries...
2015 - The Obama administration tightened restrictions on European and other travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Syria or Sudan in the previous five years.
2015 - The Obama administration tightened restrictions on European and other travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Syria or Sudan in the previous five years.
Despite the fact that Joe’s handlers went to the trouble of putting everything down on index cards for him, he still couldn’t quite figure out what he was instructed to say.
“Uh, uh, what’s, the, uh, second, uh, order I’m going to be signing also changes what the president’s done,”started Biden.
..... notice that Biden is a little horse but also that he’s reading off of index cards. No seriously, freakin’ index cards. He’s the POTUS, but he’s conducting business like he’s a giving a middle-school science report.
“Uh, uh, what’s, the, uh, second, uh, order I’m going to be signing also changes what the president’s done,”started Biden.
..... notice that Biden is a little horse but also that he’s reading off of index cards. No seriously, freakin’ index cards. He’s the POTUS, but he’s conducting business like he’s a giving a middle-school science report.
No response from the cult on this?
ProV1, Eastside Purple, Isadore, Happy, Harry, Hubman?
Hello, anyone????
Do we need to list all the dumb things Trump said the last four years again? You guys got a lot of nerve making fun of Biden.
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We can List Joe's Positive Accomplishments !!!
1. ______________ 47 + Years and Still waiting - what a Typical Democrat
Sorry your Butt hurt on things "Said", how about Investing in some Reclaimed Land Mines
He’s been President two weeks, genius.
Care to Circle Back and pick up on the 47 years politics and Nothing Accomplished ?
Joe Biden's streak of being wrong on foreign policy continues, uninterrupted
At the latest Democratic debate, Joe Biden claimed a vast array of foreign policy accomplishments in an attempt to make the case that his foreign policy experience made him the best prepared candidate to be commander in chief. But all he did was remind viewers that he has an extensive history of…
www.washingtonexaminer.com
First, you are correct that I never said any of those things you said I did say.
Second, You are mostly correct. I do make a lot of smart comments about what dumb es post. It's petty and trite, but it amuses me. Occasionally I will offer some tidbit of knowledge.
ProV1
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What about it? He stutters and he is losing his mental acuity. You can keep pointing it out but it will not change my preference of him over a lying, cheating, fraudulent, criminal narcissist. It will also not change the fact that he b*tch slapped Trump in a landslide.
warriorblue
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You way off on this. Surprising coming from you. Many working class vote. To call them lazy insensitive. Most do it out of convenience. Record turnouts cause for long wait times
warriorblue
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This is a joke. You blame democratic president for all of this when the Republicans control Congress for the majority of time. You can be conservative but to blame one side is irresponsible! All of DC needs an overhaul.
Wrong - Convenience My buttt
Record turn out was Coming - when your Covid-19 Vaccination ID becomes your Voter ID
registration Card - Democrat voting Tallies will DIVE
Happygoluckky
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Interesting breakdown by zipcode...burbs (even Mason broke for Biden) I can only imagine this number being about 10% HIGHER with the election fraud and QaNon BS. GOP would be well served to surface a legitimate candidate like Nikki Haley to win some of the suburban non-conspiracy educated voters. Of course a lot can change between now and 2022/2024.
www.nytimes.com
An Extremely Detailed Map of the 2020 Election (Published 2021)
An interactive map that lets readers explore in new detail how most states voted in the 2020 presidential election.
all the things I VOTE for, wouldn't you vote for those things too?
Make Sense .... maybe too much sense !!! for the Democratic Voters
Spot on List bigkat - worth showing again !
1. Higher Taxes
2. Losing jobs to China
3.Weak Military
4.Borders without safety
5. Life without Religious Freedom
6.Big Tech control
7. DEPENDENCY ON OIL FROM FOREIGN OIL ( BRINGS WARS)
8 More REGULATION
9. UNFAIR TRADE
why would any person want these? sorry , I'm selfish... America first!!!
We could be Just Like Europe ! ???????????
Europe’s Economy Falls Further Behind U.S. and China. ‘It’s Getting Desperate.’
The eurozone’s economy is diverging sharply from the U.S. and China, as stubbornly high coronavirus infections, extensive Covid-19 restrictions and a painfully slow vaccine rollout delay Europe’s recovery from last year’s historic economic downturn.
www.wsj.com
hubman
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- Higher Taxes
- Seeing as we are being taxed at the lowest levels in almost 60 years (Before 45 entered office), we could use higher revenue to rebuild our infrastructure, whittle the debt and support our citizens like most industrialized nations (universal healthcare, affordable secondary education). Not to mention how Republican tax plans seem to favor the wealthy. That famous Trump tax cut is permanent for the big businesses only temporary for average Americans
- https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2011/06/pdf/low_tax_graphs.pdf
- Tax revenue is at its lowest level since 1950 (This was in 2011)
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...-lower-tax-rate-than-working-class-last-year/
- https://prospect.org/power/two-biggest-lies-donald-trump-s-tax-plan/
- “If President Trump's middle-class tax cuts are a complicated mix of cuts and increases in the short run, the longer-term picture is quite clear: Trump will increase personal income taxes on just about everyone. After 2025,”
2. Losing jobs to China
- Thanks’ to 45’s tariff policies, voting for him meant a vote for hemorrhaging jobs to China.
- https://www.americanmanufacturing.org/blog/u-s-job-loss-to-china-swells-to-3-7-million/
- Workers saw 3.7 million U.S. jobs lost to China since 2001, with more than 700,000 lost in the first two years of Donald Trump’s presidency, according to a study released Thursday by the Economic Policy Institute (EPI).
3.Weak Military
- Even with a 25% funding cut how weak really would our military be compared to the rest of the world
4.Borders without safety- More of a vote for a humane immigration program, as opposed to lets see how cruel we can be (caging kids, lets deport middle aged people back to countries they haven’t been to since they were in pampers)
5. Life without Religious Freedom- More of a vote for all religious freedom as opposed to Christianity or the highway
6.Big Tech control- I trust Elizabeth Warren wrangling Big Tech for the people more than I do anybody on the other side of the aisle
7. DEPENDENCY ON OIL FROM FOREIGN OIL ( BRINGS WARS)- The trajectory for independence on oil started way before 45 got in office and Energy independence was pretty much complete by the time he was inaugurated he just didn’t upset the applecart
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8 More REGULATION- I kind of like clean water, fresh air, and safe products
9. UNFAIR TRADE
- I’m sure there can be some common ground found on this one on both sides of the aisle.
And republicans are scared of the other half? (or more like the majority of 80 mllion)
Don't fool yourself ....... the GOP isn't afraid of anything
