For me it's Frye 1A and Shriner 1B for best coaches in the league. We're lucky to have a bunch of good young coaches in the league right now though.You are pretty Lucky to have coach Frye.I think he is the best coach in the league overall.
For some reason Moyer has been left out of this conversation. Since he has been at Wapak I dont think their has been a coach with more success during that time. I could be wrongFor me it's Frye 1A and Shriner 1B for best coaches in the league. We're lucky to have a bunch of good young coaches in the league right now though.
That's fine but I just have to give Shriner credit with being the smallest school and look at the success he has had there in his tenure. 800+ kids at Wapak compared to barely 550 at OG. Moyer is probably 3 for me with Recker 4.For some reason Moyer has been left out of this conversation. Since he has been at Wapak I dont think their has been a coach with more success during that time. I could be wrong
I'd imagine he is one of the most (if not the most) successful coaches in Wapak football history. Does that make him the best overall coach in the league? I'm not sure, after all Wapak doesn't exactly have a rich history of football championships so being the 'best' in Wapak history isn't necessarily that high of a pedestal. I think Moyer is a fine coach, certainly top tier in the WBL, but I think Coach Frye's accomplishments stand alone.For some reason Moyer has been left out of this conversation. Since he has been at Wapak I dont think their has been a coach with more success during that time. I could be wrong
Shriner IS O-G football. Frye rebuilt St. Marys after a lackluster period in the mid/late 90s, left and built the program at Wapak, then came back and rebuilt St. Marys from almost the ground back up.
Recker took an 0-10 program in 2016 and won state 4 years later.
Those are my top 3. Moyer 4 because he at least continued and built upon what Frye started, but give me the actual program builders over the maintainer who chokes in the playoffs. Not a slight at all against Moyer, but the facts are he walked into an established program at the biggest school in the league.
Here's mine.Very Interesting take. How would everyone rank the coaches in the WBL.
1. Fyre
2. Shriner
3. Moyer
4. Recker
5. Harmon
6. Cooper
7. Fackler
8. Kline
9. Bader
10. Ryan Reindal
That would be my list based on history of their coaching stops. What about some top assistants in the league?
Yes I understand but St. Marys playoff success in state titles is due to Skip with Frye having a title game apperance. Frye rebuilt Wapak but Moyer took the program even higher winning WBL titles and making some nice playoff runsI'd imagine he is one of the most (if not the most) successful coaches in Wapak football history. Does that make him the best overall coach in the league? I'm not sure, after all Wapak doesn't exactly have a rich history of football championships so being the 'best' in Wapak history isn't necessarily that high of a pedestal. I think Moyer is a fine coach, certainly top tier in the WBL, but I think Coach Frye's accomplishments stand alone.
I don't disagree with that. St Marys history is Skip. Frye was only at Wapak for a short stint, so I'm not sure it's fair to compare their collective time solely at Wapak. Just looking at a quick snapshot, in the 4 years before Frye took over at Wapak, they were a combined 19-23 (boosted mostly from their breakthrough 10-2 2006 season). In the 4 years with Frye at the helm, Wapak went 33-10. The first 4 years under Moyer, Wapak went 39-8. The comparison of before Frye to Frye is a remarkable turnaround. It's impressive. The comparison from the Frye era to the beginning of the Moyer era has notable improvement, but nothing jaw dropping. It's not like there's a state (or regional) title in there. It's probably also worth noting that for a lot of Frye's coaching career he had duels with Coach Mauk. Love him or hate him, Mauk is another legend in the WBL and Kenton, while still competitive, is certainly not the same as Mauk's Kenton. Not having to go up against Mauk's Kenton for the WBL title nowadays is a blessing for all WBL teams, Moyer's Wapak Redskins as well.Yes I understand but St. Marys playoff success in state titles is due to Skip with Frye having a title game apperance. Frye rebuilt Wapak but Moyer took the program even higher winning WBL titles and making some nice playoff runs
Kline being “consistent” is quite the take. 7-23 in the last three years is consistently bad1 Shriner (Always competitive even as a small school in the league)
2 Frye (Wins, no matter what, he wins)
3 Recker (Tight race here, but state championship takes it)
4 Moyer (could easily be 3. Will be interesting to see if he rebounds this fall)
5 Fackler (not exactly Mauk, but consistently average)
6 Harmon (Huge progress in year 1. Looks to have things rolling)
7 Kline (Consistent)
8 Cooper (Seems to have a reputation, but has only won games when he could "recruit". His Tennessee record and Shawnee record....Leave a lot to be desired.)
9 Reindel (Can't blame him for everything
He inherited a program that was run into the ground by the 1 and done before him. Miller didn't do him any favors)
10 Bader (Someone had to be last, I'd say 5-10 are pretty fluid)
There are some talented assistants in the league...Very Interesting take. How would everyone rank the coaches in the WBL.
1. Fyre
2. Shriner
3. Moyer
4. Recker
5. Harmon
6. Cooper
7. Fackler
8. Kline
9. Bader
10. Ryan Reindal
That would be my list based on history of their coaching stops. What about some top assistants in the league?
There are some talented assistants in the league...
Woods the Elida DC, Truesdale at Wapak, Harting the OC at VW, Yale (I think that's his name) at St. Marys, Heebsh the DC at OG are all very talented assistants.
We're a long ways away, but what do we think of week 1 games? It's the only week WBL play out of league teams so it's always an interesting measuring stick. Per Arbiter, the games are:
Bath vs. Bowling Green
Celina @ Versailles
Defiance vs. Napoleon
Elida vs. Spencerville
Kenton @ Coldwater
Ottawa-Glandorf @ Eastwood
Shawnee vs. Lima Central Catholic
St. Marys Memorial @ London
Van Wert @ Bryan
Wapakoneta vs. Marion Local
You got your traditional matchups (Defiance, Kenton, Celina, O-G, Van Wert), but then some fresh ones. This is... a really tough week one slate. Van Wert is probably the only one looking at this list that seems by far the most likely to win. I think we could easily see the majority of the WBL 0-1 going into league play.
The games I'm most looking forward to: SM vs London, Wapak vs ML, and Elida vs. Spencerville since it's a local one. I think Bath-BG, Shawnee-LCC, and Celina-Versailles could probably get ugly.
Remember 12 teams get in next year so not as important as past.I think it's time the WBL goes to the MAC model and have 8 conference games. There is a strong possibility the WBL could range from 2-8 to 4-6 in their opening week games. Which then creates a tough time for league teams to make the playoffs.
Bath vs. Bowling Green - Idk why Bath and Allen East aren't playing. BG running clockBath vs. Bowling Green
Celina @ Versailles
Defiance vs. Napoleon
Elida vs. Spencerville
Kenton @ Coldwater
Ottawa-Glandorf @ Eastwood
Shawnee vs. Lima Central Catholic
St. Marys Memorial @ London
Van Wert @ Bryan
Wapakoneta vs. Marion Local
Also wondered why Allen East and Bath don’t play too. Bath being D5 and AE being D6 the game makes too much sense.Bath vs. Bowling Green - Idk why Bath and Allen East aren't playing. BG running clock
Celina @ Versailles - Tigerball running clock. Since the playoffs are expanding to 12, I see no reason for Coldwater and Celina not to play.
Defiance vs. Napoleon - Typical rivalry game thats usually close. Dont know enough on either to comment
Elida vs. Spencerville - Intriguing. I'll go with Elida by a score
Kenton @ Coldwater- Cavs by 3 scores. I really enjoyed having a year off of this matchup.
Ottawa-Glandorf @ Eastwood - This is a great game. Could go either way.
Shawnee vs. Lima Central Catholic - Cooper cant out recruit Palte apparently
St. Marys Memorial @ London - Another intriguing matchup. London will not go quietly
Van Wert @ Bryan - Defending state champs take out Bryan by 4 scores.
Wapakoneta vs. Marion Local - Maybe the matchup of the week that week
I'm pretty sure Bath is losing a lot too. That's why this past season was a bit disappointing for them - they were a veteran team. While competitive in their games, they still went 2-6. I think I'd take the 7-2 team from last year that lost a lot. A Bath win would be a nice surprise though. ?Bath-BG gets ugly in the WBL's favor if anything. BG lost a ton and is going to be horrible.
I think every year for Bath has been "their year" for about the last 10 years.I'm pretty sure Bath is losing a lot too. That's why this past season was a bit disappointing for them - they were a veteran team. While competitive in their games, they still went 2-6. I think I'd take the 7-2 team from last year that lost a lot. A Bath win would be a nice surprise though. ?