Week 12: Elder

I believe Ramsey has over a 100 catches this season? You better check your stats.......
He did mention them in the season stats in the same post- the GCL stats were singled out because that's what the coaches saw. By either measure Kellom had the better stats while playing much fewer minutes. Not taking anything away from Ramsey, very good player, but it's an absolute crock that it wasn't at least shared.
 
Then ReLoad shouldn't complain about Doug Ramsey supporting his own player (regardless of whether or not it's his son).
The complaint isn't that Ramsey is voting for his own kid- that's a different story entirely. The complaint is that objectively Kellom was better, and not by a slim margin, especially when you consider he played significantly less minutes.
 
There were 11 special mention awards for players. 8 X players were identified. Which of the other 7 kids shouldn’t be mentioned because Specht wanted to push for 1 to be named “player of the year”.
 
Mike Dyer reported that Ramsey was the unanimous selection for Player of the Year. Ask Coach Specht why he didn't support his own players.
I don't believe that the rules permit a coach to vote for his own players.
 
I believe Ramsey has over a 100 catches this season? You better check your stats.......
He does and I noted it, I think you were looking at his stats in the 3 GCL-S games instead of his overall stats
He has 105 catches and averages less than 10 yards per catch
 
Mike Dyer reported that Ramsey was the unanimous selection for Player of the Year. Ask Coach Specht why he didn't support his own players.
Typically when you have a discussion regarding the "player of the year" award you present the stats of the player vs the other 3 teams in the league (see post #23 of this thread) and also vs the best teams on the schedule.

Ramsey Performance vs Top 5 Opponents
Pick Central 3 carries for -6 yards and 3 catches for 20 yards 0 TD
St. Ed's 5 carries for 16 yards and 13 catches for 100 yards 1 TD
LSX 14 carries for 43 yards and 8 catches for 135 yards 2 TDs
StX 2 carries for 5 yards and 3 catches for 12 yards and 0 TD
Moeller 7 carries for 25 yards and 13 catches for 85 yards 1 TD
5 Game Totals: 31 carries for 83 yards (2.7 ypc) and 40 catches for 352 yards (8.8 ypc) 4 TDs
435 yards in 5 games is an average of 87 yards per game
Elder's record vs these 5 teams was 1-4 only because Moeller's defense is on a par with Elder's

Do these look like the numbers of a GCL-S player of the year??
 
Don’t think anyone that looks at it objectively they could argue with the fact that it should be called the Doug Ramsey lifetime achievement award this year. But from Specht’s standpoint you have so many kids deserving of recognition this year, who do you leave off to try and push for that one.
 
Top 5 Elder "player of the year type" performances vs StX since 1990
1. Tony Carvitti, 2002 DE, led Panthers to 2 wins over the Bombers in 1 season recording 8 sacks and 21 tackles total.
2. Michael Bittner 2018 QB, 17 for 23 for 392 yards and 3 TDs and 20 carries for 97 yards and 3 TDs
3. Tim Austing, 1991 QB, threw for 368 yards and 3 TDs and added another rushing TD in the 44-10 Elder victory
4. Matt Luebbe 2019 QB, 21 carries for 236 yards and 3 TDs
5. Bradley Glathaar, 2002 RB, 37 carries for 146 yards and 3 TDs in Elder victory on way to 1st of back to back state titles
 
This senior class has 5 players who are 3 year varsity contributors:
OL Brian Parker, OL Cam Collins, RB Luke Vrsansky, PK Mason Rohmiller, FS Eli Kirk.
Collins missed half of the Ignatius game (week 9) and all of the ELCA and Hamilton games (weeks 10 and 11)
He is doubtful for this Friday
The good news is Collins is back and the other good news is Fogler still in the rotation based on his performance and progression in the past 3 games. Interesting the myriad of OLine formations Coverdale is using with the 6 linemen since Koch, Parker and Uhl are capable of playing multiple positions.
 
Pressure (10x+) and sack Hambleton (4x+) and slow down Ramsey (under 150 total yards)
Unless the Panther's offensive line has drastically improved and/or they found another offensive playmaker X should be able to do both again.
Week 6: 10+ hurries, 4 sacks and Ramsey had 87 total yards (5 rushing, 12 receiving and 71 on kick returns)
Per Specht today....
Since losing to us in Week 6, Elder has won their last 3 games and 4 of their last 5 including impressive wins over Moeller, LaSalle and Colerain. Their offensive line has improved and they seem to have found their identity in a pass oriented attack. Drew Ramsey has accounted for almost 60% of their run game from week seven on. They have a number of other long receivers in Harp, Kirch and Broxterman and an explosive receiver in #84 Re.
 
I imagine that it is troubling (to anyone who hopes to see this X team win a state title this year) that X is having this many problems in the defensive backfield; I'd argue that on ALL of the X state title teams, X had better results on pass defense than X has had this season-- which makes me seriously wonder whether this season can turn out as those seasons did...
Let's look at the pass defense stats of the 4 state title teams and see how this year's pass defense stacks up.....

Pass Defenses of the 4 state title teams
2020 12 games 138 for 272 (50.7%) 2,020 yards (168 yards/game) 7.4 yards per pass completion 14 TDs and 15 INTs
2016 15 games 201 for 397 (50.6%) 2,766 yards (184 yards/game) 7.0 yards per pass completion 17 TDs and 17 INTs
2007 15 games 191 for 379 (50.4%) 2,359 yards (157 yards/game) 6.2 yards per pass completion 13 TDs and 24 INTs
2005 15 games 138 for 283 (48.8%) 1,405 yards (94 yards/game) 5.0 yards per pass completion 3 TDs and 24 INTs

Pass Defense of this years team after Week 11

2021 11 games 102 for 207 (49.0%) 1,319 yards (120 yards/game) 6.4 yards per pass completion 10 TDs 11 INTs
 
Statistically this years pass defense matches up with the pass defenses of the last 3 title teams......
with exception to the number of interceptions the 2007 team recorded led by Tim Bayer (6), Gerry Reilly (5) and Billy Rumpke (5).

The 2005 pass defense was the best by far limiting opponents to only 94 passing yards per game, 5.0 yards per pass completion and only 3 passing TDs and converting 24 INTs. It's arguably the best defense StX has ever fielded.

2005 St. Xavier Defense
CB 30 Brad Brookbank, Sr. - baseball at Ohio State - 8 interceptions
CB 31 Frank Morand, Sr. - football at Cornell - 5 interceptions
SS 10 Tim Fagel, Sr. - 3 interceptions
FS 22 Jon Saelinger, Jr. - football at Penn State - 2 interceptions
OLB 53 Louis Miller, So. - football at Columbia; 10.5 sacks
OLB 7 Fred Craig, So. - football at Stanford
ILB 13 Nick Schneider, So. - football at Yale
ILB 20 Joe Ries, Sr. - football at University of Dayton
DE 5 Alex Albright, Sr. - football at Boston College, NFL: Dallas Cowboys; 7.5 sacks
DE 52 Kyle Meyer, Sr.
NG 91 Kevin Davis, Sr.
 
#55 being left off the list is just as bad. Two year starter who has played both tackle positions and RG this year for the Bombers. Hope he uses this for inspiration the rest of the way. #61 also a two year starter who can play C or G. Plays much bigger than his size.
The 3 year OLinemen starters Parker and Collins are well known but Koch, Fleetwood and Uhl are having excellent years.
The FOOLS are keeping defenses off McC - NO SACKS and with time and limited hurries he's completed 65% of his passes, thrown 28 TD passes and only 2 INTs. Despite 8 of 11 of the games being turbo clocks the offense still averages 350 yards and 37 points per game.

This Friday there will be times when Fogler and Collins will be at the tackles, Parker at center and Koch and Fleetwood at guard.....

LT #74 Cameron Collins Sr. 6’4” 270lb
LG #66 Evan Fleetwood Sr. 6’3” 280lb
C #75 Brian Parker Sr. 6'5” 285lb
RG #55 Brody Koch Sr. 6’2” 255lb
RT #69 Rob Fogler Jr. 6’7” 308lb

That's a good sized line...height range 6'2" to 6'7" and weight range 255lb to 309lb (avg 280lb)
 
The complaint isn't that Ramsey is voting for his own kid- that's a different story entirely. The complaint is that objectively Kellom was better, and not by a slim margin, especially when you consider he played significantly less minutes.
Fewer, it's fewer minutes. If you can count it, it's fewer. For example: fewer misinformed posters, not less. You can count posters. You are less informed, not fewer informed. You can't count informed. Get it? :) GBM
 
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Let's look at the pass defense stats of the 4 state title teams and see how this year's pass defense stacks up.....

Pass Defenses of the 4 state title teams
2020 12 games 138 for 272 (50.7%) 2,020 yards (168 yards/game) 7.4 yards per pass completion 14 TDs and 15 INTs
2016 15 games 201 for 397 (50.6%) 2,766 yards (184 yards/game) 7.0 yards per pass completion 17 TDs and 17 INTs
2007 15 games 191 for 379 (50.4%) 2,359 yards (157 yards/game) 6.2 yards per pass completion 13 TDs and 24 INTs
2005 15 games 138 for 283 (48.8%) 1,405 yards (94 yards/game) 5.0 yards per pass completion 3 TDs and 24 INTs

Pass Defense of this years team after Week 11

2021 11 games 102 for 207 (49.0%) 1,319 yards (120 yards/game) 6.4 yards per pass completion 10 TDs 11 INTs
Those are pretty interesting- would never have guessed they're that competitive with those teams. Tough to deny those results. Given the talent and athletic ability in that backfield it's understandable though. They could have double the picks if they just looked for the ball though!
 
Those are pretty interesting- would never have guessed they're that competitive with those teams. Tough to deny those results. Given the talent and athletic ability in that backfield it's understandable though. They could have double the picks if they just looked for the ball though
To date this year's pass defense has only had 207 passes thrown on them, even less when you consider that there have been 8 turbo clocks in 11 games. So less time on the field and fewer opportunities to make an interception (birdog - did I use the words less and fewer correctly?)

I think back on that 2005 defense and the fact that they allowed only 3 TD passes in 15 games is just amazing. The pass rush of the front 6 led by Albright and Miller wreaked havoc and the coverage of the corners and safeties was smothering.

The pushback I've gotten from StX alums/fans on the discussion of the 2005 defense being GOAT is in favor of either the defenses of 1968 or 1981.

The 1968 defense was part of the first undefeated team in Bomber history (9-0-1) tieing Moeller 6-6 on the final game of the season. One member of that team claims Moeller put gravel on the grass field to slow down their fast RB. Since ithe claim is against Moeller I believe him. I don't have all the scores from that year but here are the 7 I do....Elder 8-0, Roger Bacon 6-0, Newport Catholic 12-0, LaSalle 10-0, McNicholas 26-6, Princeton 8-0 and Moeller 6-6. Sounds like a pretty good defense not sure how much they used the forward pass though. The win over Roger Bacon snapped an 18 game winning streak for the Spartans and coach Bron Bacevich who said his undefeated 1967 was his best team ever.

The 1981 team was the first StX team to make the playoffs losing to Moeller 18-7. The top players on defense were Nick Aloe NG 6’0" 237lb; All State, All City, 1st Team GCL, "That's My Boy" - Holy Cross, Todd Schiller DL 6’3” 243lb; All City, 1st Team GCL - Holy Cross, John Klare DL 6’4” 198lb Georgia Tech, Jon Bordeaux LB 6’1” 184lb; 2nd Team GCL, Alex DiTullio DB 5’8” 150lb; 1st Team GCL, StX Best Defensive Back, Joe Dusa S 6’0” 165lb; 2nd Team GCL and John Vesprani DB 6’2” 160lb; Jr. Honorable Mention All State Sr. Year

GO X! Beat Elder......if your betting take Elder and the points.....this one is going to be close......for a quarter
 
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Let's look at the pass defense stats of the 4 state title teams and see how this year's pass defense stacks up.....

Pass Defenses of the 4 state title teams
2020 12 games 138 for 272 (50.7%) 2,020 yards (168 yards/game) 7.4 yards per pass completion 14 TDs and 15 INTs
2016 15 games 201 for 397 (50.6%) 2,766 yards (184 yards/game) 7.0 yards per pass completion 17 TDs and 17 INTs
2007 15 games 191 for 379 (50.4%) 2,359 yards (157 yards/game) 6.2 yards per pass completion 13 TDs and 24 INTs
2005 15 games 138 for 283 (48.8%) 1,405 yards (94 yards/game) 5.0 yards per pass completion 3 TDs and 24 INTs

Pass Defense of this years team after Week 11

2021 11 games 102 for 207 (49.0%) 1,319 yards (120 yards/game) 6.4 yards per pass completion 10 TDs 11 INTs
Admittedly, my view of this is/was skewed by the clear excellence/dominance of 1) 2005's defense; and 2) 2007's defense-- it's hard to argue (using your statistics of choice) that those weren't better defensive secondaries than this year's-- lower TD/game averages given up, and MUCH higher interception/game average; 2016's season results were skewed by the severe injuries that that team experienced during the early part of the season (admittedly, more on offense than defense, but when the offense is not sustaining drives and/or keeping the ball at all, and you're giving the other team far more opportunities, it tends to hurt defensive results-- and X got clobbered in a few games in the early part of that season).

Having said that, this year's team built some GREAT statistics in those first five games, in which only LW was competitive (and LW still had two TD passes, with an inept QB at the helm). If you looked at the last 6 games (before Elder last night-- which yielded 1 TD and 1 interception, so pretty much in line with this team's season averages, but a higher yards passing total than the season average), you saw an X team having more significant problems on pass defense than in the first five games-- hence, the statement that X's pass defense had been "found out": this problem had come on, and was building in the last 6 games. Certainly, it was evident in the Elder, Trinity and Ig games-- but even HAMILTON had a decent amount of success against X's secondary last week, in the middle of a rainstorm! (Again, the officiating on the big Hamilton receiver pushing off was, IMO, egregiously bad-- but he managed to bully X's defensive backs last week.) Most of the TDs and the bulk of the passing yards given up by X's defense happened in the second half of the season-- in those last 6 games, I know that Elder had 2 TD passes, Ig had 3 TD passes, Trinity had over 300 yards passing (but their TDs were all runs), while LaSalle and Hamilton had one TD pass each.

After a bad series last night, on Elder's lone TD (Elder went from 3rd and 11 on their ~30-yard line, in two pass plays, to tie the score), the X pass defense became MUCH more solid-- including some great breaks on the ball, in the last ~3 quarters-- if that is a sign of improvement and things to come, then I would be more optimistic about potential games against good passing teams. Elder's touchdown pass last night looked like bad defense-- but after that. for the rest of the game, X's secondary looked much improved.
 
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