Walsh Jesuit vs. Archbishop Hoban

Smoove just went creuzin' down Wyoga Lake Rd and Smoove saw lots of peeps sittin' around a camp fire on what looked like those big exercise balls, but the balls were made of ice. Smoove believes it was the Warrior football team still tryin' to soothe the butt-hurt they gotted put on them by the Knight-train. Hoban seemed to open up what Smoove would call a humogaloid SILO of WHOOP-RUMP!! Smoove has to keep the wording above ground on this here site 'cuz Smoove never be knowin' when some young-uns be viewin' Smoove's illiterations on here. Smoove doubts anyone on here was feelin' more of the shocker from the outcome of this game than Smoove was. Smoove was lookin' forward to the updates on this showdown on Friday night whilest Smoove was supportin' Smoove's Comets in Ravenna, which THAT turned out to prolly be a better game than this Warrior-Knight debacle.
Smoove pulled into the Walsh parking lot of doom when Smoove seen this activity in their parking lot and it got Smoove curious as all get out. Smoove asked one of the kids,
"Yo! Whaddup? Whacha all doin' up in here?"
All Smoove heard was gurglin' and mumblin' from the dude. Smoove posed his question again, and the kid finally responded to my inquisitative statement.
"Sir, we cannot spak to anyone about this. All I can do is respond yes or no."
So Smoove uses Smoove's intellectualization and recalls lots of previous edumacation days and utilized his indepth knowledge of the English language and the use of "closed-ended" questionizationing and Smoove posed tothe young man,
"Are y'all sittin' on big balls of ice?"
"Yes, sir."
"Is 'cuz y'all got taken out to the woodshed and left for dead on Friday night?"
Yes, sir."
"DAAaayyyuummm!" says Smoove. "That is COLD,Yo! Get better and hope y'allz bungs feel a lotta mo' better for next week!"
That is zactly how it went down, Yo!
Smoove Out!
 
Hate to say it, but this post is a joke. I, as well as my brothers, could of went to a number of other schools (public and private) but chose Walsh. Maybe just your parents?
I'm sorry, but in my graduating class, virtually everybody had Walsh chosen for them. I can count on one hand the number of people I know who were able to choose where they went to high school.
 
I'm sorry, but in my graduating class, virtually everybody had Walsh chosen for them. I can count on one hand the number of people I know who were able to choose where they went to high school.
Ok...still a crazy statement. Didn't know it was a thing to poll your whole graduating class to see whose parents chose their high school for them.
 
I went to a public school so I don't get the whole private school mentality but parents shelling out $10k+ nevermind the distance/commute factors, you telling me they let a 13 yo make that decision? Uhhh, no. I didn't choose chit and it would never occur to them (or me) that I had an opinion on the matter.
 
I am not buying in on Riverside until they show me something in the playoffs. They also have a less than impressive schedule.

Yeah... reminds me of so many Maple Hts and Garfield Hts type undefeated dream teams of the past getting obliterated by Hoban in the playoffs. Sad really. Would love to be proven wrong but no way Riverside even approaches that talent level.
 
A lot of private school families let their kids make that decision. That's why you have open houses and shadow days, among other things. You're always going to have legacy families where you know where you're going to HS the day you start grade school, but I know a handful of STVM alums whose kids ended up at Hoban, and vice versa. I know families who have kids at both schools. Same with Eds and Ignatius. Walsh is a bit of a different situation because of it's location, most Akron kids considering Hoban and STVM don't usually have Walsh on the radar, unless it's a legacy situation. We let our kids choose, the cost and quality of education is very similar among those schools, so if geography isn't a cumbersome factor, let your kids decide where they think they'll be happiest.
 
Ok fair enough I guess. But tell me this, does the cost and aid being offered factor in at all? I mean, at least in HS for sure the parents are paying for it not the kids. Seems a "tad" indulgent to me.
 
I went to a public school so I don't get the whole private school mentality but parents shelling out $10k+ nevermind the distance/commute factors, you telling me they let a 13 yo make that decision? Uhhh, no. I didn't choose chit and it would never occur to them (or me) that I had an opinion on the matter.
I know a ton of private school parents. Most didn't give their kids the option of public vs private. But they did give them the option of which private school they would attend.
 
I went to a public school so I don't get the whole private school mentality but parents shelling out $10k+ nevermind the distance/commute factors, you telling me they let a 13 yo make that decision? Uhhh, no. I didn't choose chit and it would never occur to them (or me) that I had an opinion on the matter.
When it came time for high school for me, I already had a brother that was a Sophomore at Walsh. My parents asked if I wanted to go to Walsh or Nordonia HS. I chose Walsh and so did my 3 other brothers when they had to decide. One was on the fence of where he wanted to go, but he ended up choosing Walsh. It was purely our decision. I lived 45 minutes away and hitchhiked home many days after practice. Yes, different times back then.
Usually there were 2-3 of us at a time attending Walsh so we received a tuition break.
Now, if my oldest brother wasnt already in Walsh, Im not sure if this would of been an option for me and my brothers. My parents weren't rich at all, but made it work.
 
Smoove just went creuzin' down Wyoga Lake Rd and Smoove saw lots of peeps sittin' around a camp fire on what looked like those big exercise balls, but the balls were made of ice. Smoove believes it was the Warrior football team still tryin' to soothe the butt-hurt they gotted put on them by the Knight-train. Hoban seemed to open up what Smoove would call a humogaloid SILO of WHOOP-RUMP!! Smoove has to keep the wording above ground on this here site 'cuz Smoove never be knowin' when some young-uns be viewin' Smoove's illiterations on here. Smoove doubts anyone on here was feelin' more of the shocker from the outcome of this game than Smoove was. Smoove was lookin' forward to the updates on this showdown on Friday night whilest Smoove was supportin' Smoove's Comets in Ravenna, which THAT turned out to prolly be a better game than this Warrior-Knight debacle.
Smoove pulled into the Walsh parking lot of doom when Smoove seen this activity in their parking lot and it got Smoove curious as all get out. Smoove asked one of the kids,
"Yo! Whaddup? Whacha all doin' up in here?"
All Smoove heard was gurglin' and mumblin' from the dude. Smoove posed his question again, and the kid finally responded to my inquisitative statement.
"Sir, we cannot spak to anyone about this. All I can do is respond yes or no."
So Smoove uses Smoove's intellectualization and recalls lots of previous edumacation days and utilized his indepth knowledge of the English language and the use of "closed-ended" questionizationing and Smoove posed tothe young man,
"Are y'all sittin' on big balls of ice?"
"Yes, sir."
"Is 'cuz y'all got taken out to the woodshed and left for dead on Friday night?"
Yes, sir."
"DAAaayyyuummm!" says Smoove. "That is COLD,Yo! Get better and hope y'allz bungs feel a lotta mo' better for next week!"
That is zactly how it went down, Yo!
Smoove Out!
Smoove likes his chicken spicy.
 
I went to a public school so I don't get the whole private school mentality but parents shelling out $10k+ nevermind the distance/commute factors, you telling me they let a 13 yo make that decision? Uhhh, no. I didn't choose chit and it would never occur to them (or me) that I had an opinion on the matter.

TigerPaw, I suspect you may have to grow up in it to appreciate it. Having done so and my wife having done so, we saw the value in a good Catholic education so we sent my son to a Catholic private grade school. He was at the top of his class and did well on all of the Summit Catholic entrance tests and that earned him a partial academic scholarship to the Catholic high school of his choice. He was at the top of his class and that allowed him to go to a top notch Catholic university with scholarships that allowed him to go for what Akron or Kent would have cost. He did so well there that he was able to attend a top notch graduate school and that opened doors to job opportunities most could only dream of, doors not available to graduates of most schools. Each one of those educational opportunities opened more doors to him.

It's all about what you think is best for your kid and no school is ever a "one size fits all", but my kid's Catholic school education could not have fit him better. I'd have a much larger bank account now without it but I wouldn't change anything looking back.
 
Ok fair enough I guess. But tell me this, does the cost and aid being offered factor in at all? I mean, at least in HS for sure the parents are paying for it not the kids. Seems a "tad" indulgent to me.
Indulgent is a ridiculous term to use.
Remember that everyone has different financial situations. What seems a ridiculous cost to some may not be as ridiculous to others.
I consider a Mercedes, a couple of ATVs, a boat, a Gucci bag or maybe dinner at the Marble Room as 'indulgent'.

I don't consider a kids education indulgent.

There are a lot of parents and kids that choose parochial for reasons completely unrelated to athletics. Here are a just a few of many:
- Inclusiveness of religion. Public takes it away, parochial keeps it involved in the teachings and beliefs. This alone is worth it to most parochial parents. I know much of society has shunned it, but most private school families still hold it dear.
- More scholarship money. On the whole, kids that attend private schools are offered more collegiate scholarship money via academics than private.
- Ability to kick out bad apples. There are plenty of problem kids that aren't allowed to attend private schools.
- Random drug testing. Yes, drinking and drugs still happen at both public and private, but many private schools do randoms to help reduce the problems.
- Many, many more.

I'm not saying public is a poor choice. It's an individual choice. What I don't get is when people rag on paying for an education.
Worry about yourself and your own kids, stop worrying about what others spend their money on.
 
Indulgent is a ridiculous term to use.
Remember that everyone has different financial situations. What seems a ridiculous cost to some may not be as ridiculous to others.
I consider a Mercedes, a couple of ATVs, a boat, a Gucci bag or maybe dinner at the Marble Room as 'indulgent'.

I don't consider a kids education indulgent.

There are a lot of parents and kids that choose parochial for reasons completely unrelated to athletics. Here are a just a few of many:
- Inclusiveness of religion. Public takes it away, parochial keeps it involved in the teachings and beliefs. This alone is worth it to most parochial parents. I know much of society has shunned it, but most private school families still hold it dear.
- More scholarship money. On the whole, kids that attend private schools are offered more collegiate scholarship money via academics than private.
- Ability to kick out bad apples. There are plenty of problem kids that aren't allowed to attend private schools.
- Random drug testing. Yes, drinking and drugs still happen at both public and private, but many private schools do randoms to help reduce the problems.
- Many, many more.

I'm not saying public is a poor choice. It's an individual choice. What I don't get is when people rag on paying for an education.
Worry about yourself and your own kids, stop worrying about what others spend their money on.

You twisted my words but ok. Wasn't knocking private vs. public, or the value of a education - please. Just as I don't knock letting kids choose their own college, but, *with some exceptions. I don't care if they "want" to go to Oberlin, I advised them against it, and wasn't footing that bill or allowing them to incur a big debt. I call that responsible parenting. I am GLAD it worked out for whoever it worked out for. But I've also known many who were not the least bit ahead because of it. Parents are in the best position to make those decisions.
 
Smoove ain't gettin' the middle of this war of words on the privates and the publics. Smoove just wanna have some good convo and spit some football, y'all!! Let's do like Smoove and keep it all above the level and all about the Lovin' and the Peace! Of course, Smoove preferably would be gettin' more LOVIN'!
 
Walsh played a really tough schedule before the new coach came in. There were 5 or more playoff teams on their schedule. Under the new staff the schedule is so weak to make it appear they are good. Walsh is no different than they were 5 years ago. The NCL use to be strong and the out of league games were tough on their schedule. If they played the same strength of schedule today they would win 2-4 games. Nothing has changed with Walsh football.
 
Walsh played a really tough schedule before the new coach came in. There were 5 or more playoff teams on their schedule. Under the new staff the schedule is so weak to make it appear they are good. Walsh is no different than they were 5 years ago. The NCL use to be strong and the out of league games were tough on their schedule. If they played the same strength of schedule today they would win 2-4 games. Nothing has changed with Walsh football.
Can't agree with that. If you look at the last few years Walsh has had mostly competitive games with Hoban. Before this current coach Hoban was blowing them out every year. If they played the schedule before Alexander came in now they would win 6 or 7 games a year not 2 -4 imo. They are much better with this new coaching staff. There just not on a Hoban, Avon, Massillon level. But very few teams are.
 
Walsh played a really tough schedule before the new coach came in. There were 5 or more playoff teams on their schedule. Under the new staff the schedule is so weak to make it appear they are good. Walsh is no different than they were 5 years ago. The NCL use to be strong and the out of league games were tough on their schedule. If they played the same strength of schedule today they would win 2-4 games. Nothing has changed with Walsh football.
Sort of agree. But they have improved. It wasn’t too long ago that they went 0-10 and 1-9. They may be playing an easier schedule now but they aren’t anywhere near as bad as they were 4 to 5 years ago.
 
Walsh played a really tough schedule before the new coach came in. There were 5 or more playoff teams on their schedule. Under the new staff the schedule is so weak to make it appear they are good. Walsh is no different than they were 5 years ago. The NCL use to be strong and the out of league games were tough on their schedule. If they played the same strength of schedule today they would win 2-4 games. Nothing has changed with Walsh football.
What an odd take. There were many factors to the Hoban blowout, but 'weak schedule' isn't one of them.

Benedictine, Erie McDowell, Francis DeSales, Canisius and STV are ALL traditionally good teams. Firestone is the only bogey, and I was told the reason they played them is because another team backed out just before the season.

It's not the fault of the coaching staff that those schools aren't as good this year. Schedules are drawn up early. Plus, there are many teams that won't play parochial schools. There's whole string about publics not wanting to play privates. So, teams like Hudson, Wadsworth, Nordonia, Stow, etc. won't play vs Walsh, STV, Hoban.

The statement that Walsh is no different than they were 5 years ago comes from someone that never saw a game they played 5 years ago.
 
The only team that Walsh beat with a winning record is St V who is 4-3 and nowhere near what they used to be. Strength of schedule according to Drew Pasteur's fantastic 50 is 28th in D2. They have 2 patty cakes left in NDCL and Padua. Only Lake Catholic (6-1) D4 (weak schedule) is a challenge but Walsh picked to go 9-1. I have to agree with OHFB76.
 
The only team that Walsh beat with a winning record is St V who is 4-3 and nowhere near what they used to be. Strength of schedule according to Drew Pasteur's fantastic 50 is 28th in D2. They have 2 patty cakes left in NDCL and Padua. Only Lake Catholic (6-1) D4 (weak schedule) is a challenge but Walsh picked to go 9-1. I have to agree with OHFB76.
You agree that Walsh isn’t better than 5 years ago when they were 0-10, losing by an average of over 24 points per game?

Walsh’s strength of schedule is ranked 28th out of 103 teams according to DP for their 10 game schedule.
Not really sure how that is considered a weak schedule.
 
When it came time for high school for me, I already had a brother that was a Sophomore at Walsh. My parents asked if I wanted to go to Walsh or Nordonia HS. I chose Walsh and so did my 3 other brothers when they had to decide. One was on the fence of where he wanted to go, but he ended up choosing Walsh. It was purely our decision. I lived 45 minutes away and hitchhiked home many days after practice. Yes, different times back then.
Usually there were 2-3 of us at a time attending Walsh so we received a tuition break.
Now, if my oldest brother wasnt already in Walsh, Im not sure if this would of been an option for me and my brothers. My parents weren't rich at all, but made it work.
GBulldog, hitchhiking home from the WJ if you missed the activities bus. Those were the days.
 
You agree that Walsh isn’t better than 5 years ago when they were 0-10, losing by an average of over 24 points per game?

Walsh’s strength of schedule is ranked 28th out of 103 teams according to DP for their 10 game schedule.
Not really sure how that is considered a weak schedule.
yea they are better than horrible. Just looking at the teams they play. Private school should be playing a top 10 strength of schedule and a few D1's.
 
Walsh will be fine. They had to build that mindset of confidence up. Smoove thinks they have now gotten to point of bein' able to step the schedule up 3 notches and get some! Smoove likes Smoove some Warrior concessions, too! They treat Smoove NIIiiice!!
 
Walsh just ran into a better team, plain and simple. Hopefully for them, they rebound this week
 
yea they are better than horrible. Just looking at the teams they play. Private school should be playing a top 10 strength of schedule and a few D1's.

Agreed that WJ should add Ed's or Ignatius especially with the new playoff rules. However, Hoban and Walsh's schedules are more comparable than one would think. WJ could've been 5-0 playing Hoban's schedule.

Fredrick Douglass (2-3) has 1 quality win against Trinity (Louisville, KY).
Cath Prep (2-3) beat Canisius (2-3) by 11 (a team WJ beat by 27) and went to 6 OTs to a St. Francis (1-4) a team Hoban will beat soundly in 9 days.
Trinity Episcopal has 3 victories over teams with combined ZERO wins.
East's (6-1) schedule would be laughed at if Hoban picked up any of their opponents.
Ignatius (1-6) another team with tradition having a down year period like Benedictine or STVM.

You already agreed with OFB76 and said WJ is average. That leaves Glenville and Ed's as their only two quality opponents.

The game had nothing to do with quality of schedule.
Hoban was tired of hearing how great WJ is.
The coaching staff was tired of hearing how great the WJ staff is.
They had an off week and an extra week to prepare and have scouted them heavily.
Finally, WJ was their mum week game because their chief rival ducked them. Those familiar with Hoban know the importance of mum week.

Walsh didn't stand a chance last Friday night no matter who they played previously.
 
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