Track and Field stuff

DI is so deep - that 24th team will will still be one of the top 50 or so teams at the state meet across divisions.
You could say that about every sport but basketball because it is so 1 or 2 player driven. But the 24th best D1 football or soccer is most certainly top 50 in the state because they have so many for athletes to draw from and that is why states have divisions.

I do like the idea of taking more individual runners per number of teams in division in D1 than other divisions because so many very good D1 runners got left out in the past.
 
A simple solution would be take total number of teams that competed at the district level and divide by 4. Most D1 schools do not field competitive XC programs so out of the 67 girls teams - 20-30 will not impact the field. Division II is now loaded and hurts every school under 300. This model has more issues than the previous.
What is the standard for "competitive" for "Most D1 schools do not field competitive XC programs?"
 
We don't run finishLynx and have no issue using FAT for dual or double dual meets, but when we go to an away meet where they use Lynx, it's a mess. What is the easiest way to just have Lynx time and put results on the scoreboard and not have to have start lists for the races?

What is the easiest way to do a dual meet or double dual with lynx is probably the better question?
 
We don't run finishLynx and have no issue using FAT for dual or double dual meets, but when we go to an away meet where they use Lynx, it's a mess. What is the easiest way to just have Lynx time and put results on the scoreboard and not have to have start lists for the races?

What is the easiest way to do a dual meet or double dual with lynx is probably the better question?
If I am understanding the question correctly, you could look at RunMeet in Athletic.net. You can adjust heats, add heats and delete heats on the fly. With a good pair of people clerking and an iPad, you can do those adjustments at the line.

Tangential Note: At our home invite TimingFirst brings iPads for the field events which helps field event entries get adjusted and field event results get posted much more quickly.
 
If I am understanding the question correctly, you could look at RunMeet in Athletic.net. You can adjust heats, add heats and delete heats on the fly. With a good pair of people clerking and an iPad, you can do those adjustments at the line.

Tangential Note: At our home invite TimingFirst brings iPads for the field events which helps field event entries get adjusted and field event results get posted much more quickly.
We use lynx camera to time individuals only and give them FAT time which they report to their coach - the camera replaces the stop watch and determines who is 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in a close race.

If you are using meet manager for heats and lane assignments and Lynx camera at a dual or tri meet it's gonna be a long night. Give the kid their time, write it down, and move on.
 
We use lynx camera to time individuals only and give them FAT time which they report to their coach - the camera replaces the stop watch and determines who is 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in a close race.

If you are using meet manager for heats and lane assignments and Lynx camera at a dual or tri meet it's gonna be a long night. Give the kid their time, write it down, and move on.
Ok, that makes sense to me. That is how we do it. We clerk on the fly. Have the kids come back in their lanes for lane races write their names down on the score sheet and by that time, the FAT times are up on the scoreboard and are written into the sheet. The distance races are just given times and anything too close to call can be looked at on the video, but I'm not sure that has happened very often if at all.

We pull kids from events and swap kids and have tons of reasons why what we planned does not end up happening, so to me it makes no sense for having a dual meet seeded and run with meet manager.

We have gotten the complaint that our Dual meets are not included in Milesplit. I do see the problem at the District meet where our 100m guy has a slower seed time than what he ran at a dual meet or two. Our second hurdler etc... I guess we could take the time to go back and enter the meet results, but I really don't want to do that. I don't know where I would find the time to be honest.
 
Last week we went to a quad meet where they used a Lynx and every kid had a competitor number written on their right hand, in order to speed up the process of getting/verifying names. It worked fairly well. Writing 200 names on hands did not take as much time as I thought it would. There were some errors with names, but each coach is able to go back and edit the names (only the meet manager can edit the times/marks) on the results, which makes it easier to get correct results.

I still find it is significantly faster using Athletic.net to manage the meet entries, and adjusting on the fly.
 
Is there a way to submit a time / mark from a dual meet to milesplit without having to submit the entire meet? We finally had a nice night to compete last evening and had a lot of PR's and marks that would be leading the District. We as coaches really don't care much as we keep stats for all the kids, but for some reason this season, parents expect everything to be up on milesplit. (Of course, I have the other parents that at senior night last night asked if this was the first meet his all-ohio in track and cc twins were running in this season.)
 
Is there a way to submit a time / mark from a dual meet to milesplit without having to submit the entire meet? We finally had a nice night to compete last evening and had a lot of PR's and marks that would be leading the District. We as coaches really don't care much as we keep stats for all the kids, but for some reason this season, parents expect everything to be up on milesplit. (Of course, I have the other parents that at senior night last night asked if this was the first meet his all-ohio in track and cc twins were running in this season.)
Every meet should be on Milesplit, even if it's just a dual. Uploading the results takes less than a minute.
 
Every meet should be on Milesplit, even if it's just a dual. Uploading the results takes less than a minute.
It takes hours to put a dual meet into a meet manager to be able to upload. We have FAT times, but we do not seed a dual meet and put it into meet manager. We hand write it.
 
It does not take that long. Download entries from Milesplit and it seeds itself.
We do not do dual meets with entries from milesplit. It is a competitive thing. I do not feel I should have the other teams entries so I know their strategy and I'm not giving them mine ahead of time. We do the meet on the fly and get it done fast. My kids are not set in their events and the number of changes we make between boys and girls is a lot some meets. These are meets I'm able to get all my kids involved and if we have a meet won, I might pull people and put others in a position they have never been in. I might pull kids from the 800 after the 1600 and change out my entire 3200. My best hurdler is also my best 100,200 and 400 runner. He is completely flexible. If a high jumper is having a good day, I might pull him from something to allow him to stay on that focus. Having a bad day jumping, I might decide to put him in the 200 to give him a positive to end on. My 3rd or 4th hurdler that has been struggling might just be entered in the 100H. They have a positive result finally, so I might put them in the 300h. A few other coaches in our league are the same and it would be a nightmare. Just last week we had an illness go through the team and 10 kids missed. Sometimes what is easy is not best for the kids. IMO
 
Divsion II Northeast Boardman Region is excited to bring in Division I Regional Champions (Hudson Boys and Wadsworth girls) plus many other big schools. Talking to many coaches, they are shaking their heads but at least some got what they wanted. Woodridge drops down to D3 so that's the trade off. Is Woodride excited to see zero competition until Columbus? Good luck to Cloverleaf , Hawken, Bay, Marligton, Tallmadge, Salem, CVCA , Canfield, etc. - quality built and respected D2 programs with great coaches and will suffer from this change.
 
Divsion II Northeast Boardman Region is excited to bring in Division I Regional Champions (Hudson Boys and Wadsworth girls) plus many other big schools. Talking to many coaches, they are shaking their heads but at least some got what they wanted. Woodridge drops down to D3 so that's the trade off. Is Woodride excited to see zero competition until Columbus? Good luck to Cloverleaf , Hawken, Bay, Marligton, Tallmadge, Salem, CVCA , Canfield, etc. - quality built and respected D2 programs with great coaches and will suffer from this change.
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Yeah, it will be rough not facing competition until the state meet.
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Interesting Results.

I have a Hurdler / Sprinter that seems to run faster on bad weather days. 10.98 - 100m in the rain and cold April 5th this year. 38.90 300h in snow last year. 14.59 - 110H and 39.30 300H in the rain this past Saturday. Pulled a hamstring in 80 degree weather last year. Ever heard of a bad weather sprinter? 22.15 200 on a day that was under 45 degrees too. Every PR has been 45 degrees or under. 200 is the only one without rain or snow.
 
@psycho_dad Our meet last night was run via RunMeet on AthleticLive (Athletic.net). It allows you to add athletes, remove athletes and change lanes/heats on the fly, with a point and click interface. As long as you have a hotspot or good school WiFi coverage you can easily do everything on the fly. There is an iOS app that allows field events to be done in the app, which saves a lot of typing. Given the size of our team, we still do entries (via Athletic.net) ahead of time, but then can do all the changes as the meet progresses. But you can do it all on the fly if you want.
 
Not a fan of the preferred lanes in the distance races. Makes zero sense.
I disagree. But lanes should be determined if the race starts on waterfall, lanes, or alleys.

Most timing companies will have the race numbers in order from #1 the fastest to the slowest. I don't think this is always advantageous to the better-seeded times.

This does come into play at the indoor state meet. I believe the higher numbers should be in the second alley.

Don't get me wrong I love a good waterfall start and believe it helps create a competitive environment from the gun. Especially for JV races. If officials always put kids into 1 or 2 turn staggers then the JV kids don't get the bump and grind that they need psychologically to be competitive.

Just my 2 cents on the subject.
 
Not a fan of the preferred lanes in the distance races. Makes zero sense.
I like having the #1 and #9 in the same alley (and 2/10, 3/11, etc) versus the possibility of having #1 and #2 in the same alley and having to fight each other for position. I do wish those pairs were randomly assigned to a lane, but trying to do that in Hy-tek is a bit of a hassle and probably prone to human error.
 
I like having the #1 and #9 in the same alley (and 2/10, 3/11, etc) versus the possibility of having #1 and #2 in the same alley and having to fight each other for position. I do wish those pairs were randomly assigned to a lane, but trying to do that in Hy-tek is a bit of a hassle and probably prone to human error.
The implication is that the #1 lane is the preferred lane. That means that lane 8 is the least preferred. So #9 ranked runner gets a better lane than all but the #1 ranked? Why would it be any less of a fight between #1 and #9 than #1 and #2? We are talking the start of the race when everyone is fresh. Just as much of a chance of #9 running like an sweetie than #2. This is a solution to something that is not a problem.

I personally don't think lane one is the best lane for a distance runner. Why isn't it lane 8 for the 1600 or 3200? Lane 4?
 
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