Springfield Thread #?

From your own article border crossings hit all-time highs late in 2023. I really don’t care about whatever “it’s under control” nonsense you’re trying to spew. It’s not and it took 3+ years to get some acknowledgement from the current administration along with feigned action.

The absolute unmitigated disaster of migration during this administration is one of the 2-3 anchors that will be the cause of Harris sinking if she happens to lose.
Correct and you said there will be more than that going forward. There will not be unless the current laws and regulations are changed. The Biden EO caps asylum claims for illegal crossers.

Further, you are lying when you say it took 3+ years to acknowledge the problem. Immigration legislation was offered in 2021 (US Citizenship Act) but it was never taken up by the Senate because 10 Pubs would not sign on. In early 2023, Biden EOed a ban on all asylum for illegal crossers but courts overturned it. He then tried the legislative route again, but Trump killed the Bipartisan Border Deal. He then went back to EO's and the most recent policy that has drastically slowed the problem.

I will agree that Biden should have never pursued legislation because the Pubs have repeatedly proven they have no more interest than dems in solving the problem.
 
Never skinned a rabbit. Dressed a bunch of water foul. Clean lot’s of fish especially in the winter.

People that use the term alpha male to describe themselves are insecure weaklings.
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“You have an apartment building that's . . . say, 80 units at four people per unit. That's about 320 people. When you double or maybe even triple that population, the building systems aren't designed to handle that,” Wehmeyer said. “When you use the utilities, that's backing up. We have instances where people are going in to take a shower and feces is running out of the drains, filling the bathtubs as it comes from a floor above. That's compounded probably by the cooking methods that they use, which is a heavy grease-laden process.”

In addition, Wehmeyer stressed that the influx of illegal immigrants has placed a heavy burden on hard-working taxpayers who now have to fork over parts of their paychecks to house illegal aliens. This is partly due to most immigrants being unable to work and therefore, unable to pay taxes.

“They have essentially displaced the taxpaying residents of these 200 apartment units and filled them with non-tax-paying residents,” he continued. “We’re losing about $125,000 to 150,000 in revenue because of that.”
 
Economic progress for whom? It’s primarily a lot of lower wage jobs (due to artificial labor supply) making more wealth for the already wealthy while driving up cost of living for everyone else.

I will say that city income tax receipts are way up over the last 2-3 years relative to the previous decade per a very detailed article in the Jewish Journal over this crisis that I read a while back. Probably currently up 40% or more over what I’d say the average had been. That said, I have yet to see any real public works reinvestment aside from repaving some side streets. Sewer/water treatment systems and public transit both need massive upgrades due to population increase.
 
While tax receipts are up (the positive), I wonder how much wealth is drained out of the community by being Western Union wire transferred back to Haiti as opposed to being spent and recycled back into the local economy. IMO it seems that a lot of people send some portion home to support others.
 
While tax receipts are up (the positive), I wonder how much wealth is drained out of the community by being Western Union wire transferred back to Haiti as opposed to being spent and recycled back into the local economy. IMO it seems that a lot of people send some portion home to support others.
That is a sad and pathetic objection. You wanna bet about what Springfield looks like in 10 years if they all leave?
 
That is a sad and pathetic objection. You wanna bet about what Springfield looks like in 10 years if they all leave?
For a lot of these workers 25-30% of their wages already get gobbled by middlemen temp services. I don’t think it’s objectionable to question what exactly is being reinvested in your town if for many another 10-15% is being lopped off and offshored abroad to support impoverished family. It means the combination of the two results in a very low living wage that fosters problems such as overcrowded housing instead of booming the economy with discretionary spending.
 
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For a lot of these workers 25-30% of their wages already get gobbled by middlemen temp services. I don’t think it’s objectionable to question what exactly is being reinvested in your town if for many another 10-15% is being lopped off and offshored abroad to support impoverished family. It means the combination results in a very low living wage that fosters problems such as overcrowded housing instead of booming the economy with discretionary spending.
Taxes and living expenses. Next?
 
Honestly I hate the narrative surrounding “revitalizing”. This place was already revitalizing and didn’t need an external population to urgently save it. Population loss had largely leveled off and stabilized over the last 15-20 years, and there has been substantial gentrification for going on close to 15 years.

The downtown at present is by far the best I’ve ever seen it in my lifetime. In the 90s and 2000s it was largely an economically depressed craphole with numerous eyesores and dilapidated buildings that had been slowly rotting away since the major department stores and shops began fleeing to the outskirts of town in the 70s (I.e. the Upper Valley Mall, later on in the 2000s the Bechtle Avenue corridor). The inner core has become relatively vibrant again over the last 10-15 years with vacant storefronts being filled with new restaurants and shops, bigger buildings either being repurposed or torn down making way for a brewery, ice rink, new parking garages and upscale housing, etc. Social and cultural offerings that impact quality of life were improving dramatically pre-Haitian migration.

Short-run there are now any number of different crises whether or not the Haitians stay. It’s not as simple as the economy collapses if they are deported or move to bigger cities. Substantial reinvestment of tax receipts will be needed to upsize public services that had been downsized. A whole lot of property tax levied services (I.e. schools) are going to need sizable increases to account for additional population that (early on) heavily uses particular public services. A lot of recently built schools partially funded through OSFC monies which limits new school size and bases capacity on existing enrollment, are going to have to have additional taxes levied to add suddenly needed building capacity. The next 10-15 years have a lot more question marks now than they did a few years ago.
 
Going to start a separate thread for this when I have some time this weekend, but there are areas of both newly developed and planned to be developed properties around here that are tax abated for 10-15 years that I see having significant implications with the migrant population increasing the need for capacity of certain services that are generally levied through property tax collections.

As an incentive to draw buyers, tax abatements within a few short years have gone IMO from being a “maybe this is a good idea” concept to a why is this being pushed when demand for housing is outpacing housing supply? In particular, I’m beginning to wonder about and question the authority of say, the city, to property tax abate property that should be subject to levies from multiple other jurisdictions for schools and county jurisdictions. In particular there are 1-2 neighboring school districts with city annexed developments that may really get screwed over.
 
Clark county went +6.5 points to the right relative to the 2020 presidential election, and Trump went +30 points overall which is a massive spread for this county which is usually at least semi-competitive.

Though smaller, I generally think of Clark county being fairly similar to Stark county. In 2016 and 2020 Trump carried Clark county by 2-3 more points than Stark county. This election that margin jumped to being 8 points to the right of Stark county.
 
Clark county went +6.5 points to the right relative to the 2020 presidential election, and Trump went +30 points overall which is a massive spread for this county which is usually at least semi-competitive.

Though smaller, I generally think of Clark county being fairly similar to Stark county. In 2016 and 2020 Trump carried Clark county by 2-3 more points than Stark county. This election that margin jumped to being 8 points to the right of Stark county.
Did Trump get the majority Haitian vote?
 
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