Richmond Heights wants the best competition… but won’t opt up?

NEWS RELEASE – Ohio High School Athletic Association
Executive Director Doug Ute


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For Immediate Release – June 12, 2024
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Tim Stried, Director of Media Relations, tstried@ohsaa.org

OHSAA Approves 14 Fall and Winter Sports Requests from 11 Schools to Move up Division I
Approvals are sport-specific for the 2024-25 school year; deadline for wrestling requests is June 25; deadline for spring sports requests is Sept. 13

COLUMBUS, Ohio – The Ohio High School Athletic Association Board of Directors has approved 14 requests from 11 schools to move up to Division I in specific fall and winter sports for the 2024-25 school year. The requests were made possible by the passage of Referendum Item 1B that OHSAA member schools passed earlier this spring, which permits schools to request to move up to Division I on a sport-by-sport basis for one school year.

The movement results in a total of 24 adjustments in divisional placements across seven fall and winter sports, which includes several Division I schools moving down to Division II in specific sports.

No requests were denied. Schools have until June 25 to request to move up to Division I in wrestling, as those preliminary divisional breakdowns were just approved on June 9 by the OHSAA Board of Directors and are posted at: https://www.ohsaa.org/sports/wrestling

Preliminary spring sport divisional assignments will be presented to the Board of Directors in August and schools will have until September 13 to request to move up to Division I in 2025 spring sports.

The referendum issue results were announced on May 16 and schools had until June 3 to request to move up to Division I. The OHSAA Board of Directors reviewed and approved the list during meetings this past weekend in Akron at the baseball state tournament that wrapped up the 2024-25 school year.

WINTER SPORTS
Boys Basketball

Cincinnati Elder moves to D1
Thomas Worthington moves to D2
Regional Tournament Representation:
No Change to D1
D2: Central – 5; Northwest – 2; Northeast – 7; Southwest – 2

Girls Basketball:
Cincinnati Seton moves to D1
Cincinnati Mount Notre Dame moves to D1
Rocky River Magnificat moves to D1
Cleveland St. Joseph Academy moves to D1
Euclid moves to D2
Grove City Central Crossing moves to D2
Westerville North moves to D2
Cleveland John Marshall moves to D2
 
 
Saw where RH lost to Philadelphia Imhotep Charter 77-49 last night in the Philly Live event.
Haven't watched the game yet on Ballertv to see who was in the rotation (and who was not) as the margin was pretty big

RH beat Wilmington DE Salesianum 66-61 this morning

RH lost to Camden NJ 82-54 this Sat afternoon
 
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Saw where RH lost to Philadelphia Imhotep Charter 77-49 last night in the Philly Live event.
Haven't watched the game yet on Ballertv to see who was in the rotation (and who was not) as the margin was pretty big

RH beat Wilmington DE Salesianum 66-61 this morning

RH lost to Camden NJ 82-54 this Sat afternoon
Supposed best team in Ohio getting pounded this bad by out of state teams is just a bad look.
 
158 public schools out of how many total?
How many public schools do not have open enrollment?

158 of them but yet many across the entire state are complaining about only 1.

All I'm saying is most teams only 15 or less kids playing varsity so if a school has a CB number of 10 or more, it's a lot to not be living inside the school district.
Majority of public schools are open enrollment. 10 isn't that high a number at all especially for a D1 public.
 
I thought they were scared of competition though. Weird.
Don’t know, their out of state schedule suggests otherwise. You don’t see any other team in Ohio playing these teams. They also beat Division 1s champion last season. I just worry that they should be doing much better on a national scale
 
RH was 2-2 in last weekend's Midwest Live event in Sandusky
They beat Wayne Memorial MI 56-52 and Detroit University Prep 74-54
They lost to East Kentwood 44-57 and Indianapolis Cathedral 45-59
 
It is if that indicates you have 10 kids playing varsity that do not live inside the district.
It isn't if some of the kids are basketball Tier 2s. Then you don't have 10 kids. You then a combination of tier 1s and tier 2s that = 10. There is a mathematical formula. Could be 4 kids.

St Xavier has a CB number of 197. St Ignatius is 180. Obviously these schools have Tier 2s because common sense should tell you Xavier and Ignatius dont have 197 and 180 basketball players, right?

So no, a CB number of 10 isn't ridiculously high for a D1 public IMO. It could be 4 kids in the program.
 
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Also congratulations to Dorian Jones on his commitment to Ohio State. Winters and Barber have D1 offers also. In the article it mentions that Jones and Winters have been friends since childhood, they both have coaches in the family. One of the players grandmother is a coach.

If I am not mistaken Winters' father is the Brush girls basketball varsity HC. Someone more knowledgeable about the program can correct me. Makes sense why RH plays basketball so well. They are impressive to watch in person. Seen them several times.
 

Also congratulations to Dorian Jones on his commitment to Ohio State. Winters and Barber have D1 offers also. In the article it mentions that Jones and Winters have been friends since childhood, they both have coaches in the family. One of the players grandmother is a coach.

If I am not mistaken Winters' father is the Brush girls basketball varsity HC. Someone more knowledgeable about the program can correct me. Makes sense why RH plays basketball so well. They are impressive to watch in person. Seen them several times.
Yep Winters is the girls coach at Brush and used to be the girls head coach at Richmond too
 
It isn't if some of the kids are basketball Tier 2s. Then you don't have 10 kids. You then a combination of tier 1s and tier 2s that = 10. There is a mathematical formula. Could be 4 kids.

St Xavier has a CB number of 197. St Ignatius is 180. Obviously these schools have Tier 2s because common sense should tell you Xavier and Ignatius dont have 197 and 180 basketball players, right?

So no, a CB number of 10 isn't ridiculously high for a D1 public IMO. It could be 4 kids in the program.
I was using the best scenario if they had players that had been there for many many years. If they have tier 2 players it means they are coming in for basketball only so that would be even less respectable.

RH is a public school. Using a very large private school in comparison is just silly. Private schools use a different formula and have different supply options.

4 out of 10-15 kids that played varsity that do not live inside the district boundaries and have enrolled into the school after they started 7th grade. That's ridiculous to me.
 
I was using the best scenario if they had players that had been there for many many years. If they have tier 2 players it means they are coming in for basketball only so that would be even less respectable.

RH is a public school. Using a very large private school in comparison is just silly. Private schools use a different formula and have different supply options.

4 out of 10-15 kids that played varsity that do not live inside the district boundaries and have enrolled into the school after they started 7th grade. That's ridiculous to me.
I used a large private school to explain to you the formula. It seemed to me you didn't understand the formula assuming a CB of 10 meant 10 players.

Private school use the same formula as public schools. You are mistaken. There are not 2 formulas.

We disagree on if 10 is a high CB number for a public school. To me that can be only 4 kids who got varsity minutes for a whole season out of a whole roster didn't live there in 7th grade. Big deal. People relocate all the time. Also open enrollment is a thing people use.
 
I used a large private school to explain to you the formula. It seemed to me you didn't understand the formula assuming a CB of 10 meant 10 players.

Private school use the same formula as public schools. You are mistaken. There are not 2 formulas.

We disagree on if 10 is a high CB number for a public school. To me that can be only 4 kids who got varsity minutes for a whole season out of a whole roster didn't live there in 7th grade. Big deal. People relocate all the time. Also open enrollment is a thing people use.
Very familiar, use it often. Seeing a CB of 10 and spreading it to 10 players is the best case scenario of a school not being accused of cheating. It would mean a school has 10 varsity players NOT living inside the district but has at least attended the same school since before 7th grade.

Not true. Privates have to ask different questions than publics to determine tiers. Even multiple high school district ask different questions than single high school districts to determine an athletes tier location.

I wasn't looking for you to agree. You can have any opinion you want. Relocation could mean they move which to me means moving into the district. Then the CB is zero. If you have 4 players out of say 10 that see minutes and those 4 did not attend JH at the public school, it could be view by some as recruiting/assembling a team. I will add that I used the number 10 (double digits) as a very low starting point of concern. Realistically in my eyes I would go closer to a CB number of 18 or more for a public school. As I said already, open enrollment is a good option and if parents truly do it for the education it normally happens before a kid hits the 7th grade. Not after they have begun OHSAA sports.
 
Very familiar, use it often. Seeing a CB of 10 and spreading it to 10 players is the best case scenario of a school not being accused of cheating. It would mean a school has 10 varsity players NOT living inside the district but has at least attended the same school since before 7th grade.

Not true. Privates have to ask different questions than publics to determine tiers. Even multiple high school district ask different questions than single high school districts to determine an athletes tier location.

I wasn't looking for you to agree. You can have any opinion you want. Relocation could mean they move which to me means moving into the district. Then the CB is zero. If you have 4 players out of say 10 that see minutes and those 4 did not attend JH at the public school, it could be view by some as recruiting/assembling a team. I will add that I used the number 10 (double digits) as a very low starting point of concern. Realistically in my eyes I would go closer to a CB number of 18 or more for a public school. As I said already, open enrollment is a good option and if parents truly do it for the education it normally happens before a kid hits the 7th grade. Not after they have begun OHSAA sports.
I took a glance at the D1 basketball CB numbers. 10 is definitely higher than most D1 schools, but I do see schools like Newark, Stow, Reynoldsburg, and other publics with 10 or more. They have decent to excellent basketball teams also. North Royalton, WGH and some others across the state. I would never say basketball isn't a reason players might migrate to RH, just like other programs across the state.
 
I took a glance at the D1 basketball CB numbers. 10 is definitely higher than most D1 schools, but I do see schools like Newark, Stow, Reynoldsburg, and other publics with 10 or more. They have decent to excellent basketball teams also. North Royalton, WGH and some others across the state. I would never say basketball isn't a reason players might migrate to RH, just like other programs across the state.
Makes it easier to see when it is one of the smaller schools in the state.
 
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