Brambleberry
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Now that we are more than halfway through the season what are predictions for 1st team All State Players for each division as well as POY?
Predictions for 1st Team All State and POY
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adselder09
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There are a lot of important matches ahead. This discussion should really open up that final week of the season, May 5. If I had to guess POY in D1 I'd say it's a dead-heat between Pieper from Moeller and the Junior OH from X. Winner will probably be decided with the final match between the two and also if they face off at the Elite this weekend.
Brambleberry
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I think the D2 1st team all state list will be MUCH better than that of the D1. Players like Fiorenza, Feltz, Randolph, and Storc have the name recognition from last year and are clearly leaders on their respective teams
Ok, this sounds like fun...
I'll take this D2 squad to win against a D1 roster:
S: Randolph, Watterson
OH: Feltz, DeSales
OH: Koelke, Fenwick
RS: Fiorenza, Fenwick
MB: MacManaway, Mt. Vernon
MB: Bottom, Roger Bacon
L: ????
Back ups
OH: Storc, Watterson
????
need to fill in the L spot, and that would be quite a team.
miss anyone?
Someone else know enough of the big 3 rosters to put together the D1 team?
I'll take this D2 squad to win against a D1 roster:
S: Randolph, Watterson
OH: Feltz, DeSales
OH: Koelke, Fenwick
RS: Fiorenza, Fenwick
MB: MacManaway, Mt. Vernon
MB: Bottom, Roger Bacon
L: ????
Back ups
OH: Storc, Watterson
????
need to fill in the L spot, and that would be quite a team.
miss anyone?
Someone else know enough of the big 3 rosters to put together the D1 team?
I honestly don't know much of the D1 schools outside of the GCL and Cincinnati - so this is extremely biased and based purely off of the request for the so called "big 3".
S: Pieper, Moeller
OH: Talbot, St. X
OH: Print, Darby
OPP: Kerlin, Northmont
MB: Spoelker, St. X
MB: Nortmann, Elder
L: Dahm, St. X
Back Ups:
OH: Goldschmidt, LaSalle
OH: Laib, Oak Hills
L: Lee, Darby
NOTE:
Haven't seen Ed's play, so I don't know about Winters at OH.
My picks at middle are a bit underwhelming for me, but could't think of others off hand.
And of course, when it really comes down to it the All State teams are ALL politics, not necessarily the best players in the state.
Perhaps the All-Yappi team would beat the All State team head-to-head
I haven't seen any of the GCL teams really, so I can't make any real comparisons between Winter or other D1 North players to this list, but if anyone will be at the Centerville, they could get a real good look at some players and be able to make the comparisons, or if anyone here already is able to shed some light, that'd be nice. Hoban does have a solid setter and outside, but neither would top the players already on the D2 list, same with any of the Walsh players, that's an already loaded list.
Winters needs to be in the D1 list for sure... problem for him is that he is setting out of the back row which reduces his impact on the game. He is a solid passer and more than solid attacker from the back. Hate when coaches think their team would be better with their best outside taking the second ball in half the rotations. He'd be better at taking the first and third in all 6 rotations.
Ed's did actually make that change. Earlier in the season, with injuries and players out, he was setting, but since the first Hoban matchup, he's been playing outside all the way around. Maybe a few various games of setting to rest the starting setter against pretty bad teams like a Kent Roosevelt, but that switch was made. Ed's may actually be picking up a little momentum coming into this weekend.
Eichel (St. Charles) would actually be the front runner for setter. Missed him.
Hoban's setter is good, but Eichel and Randolph are different level size and strength.
DeSales setter is actually a really nice Libero in club, but I would like to pick the best high school Libero out there.
Personally, I would choose the St. Charles setter. He's got the most collected player out of the 3 and still has great hands and is a lefty. Both the Hoban and Watterson setters will get flustered too easily. And I see a little too much inconsistency out of the Hoban setter. Other than that, still all quality players
So who wins the Libero position for the All-Yappi D2 squad?
Which brings up a point...
Should the coaches vote a 7 man first team with positions or just the best 7?
I vote best 7 just because the high school game sometimes forces kids to play out of position to help their team.
IE: The 3rd best outside would probably be the best Libero if they were allowed to play it
Which brings up a point...
Should the coaches vote a 7 man first team with positions or just the best 7?
I vote best 7 just because the high school game sometimes forces kids to play out of position to help their team.
IE: The 3rd best outside would probably be the best Libero if they were allowed to play it
But then you run into the possibility of having like 5 OH and two setters...
So I think positionally is the way to go.
Right, but the coaches don't do it by position.
Guarantee there are mostly outsides and setters on the official teams.
I like by position.
Saw RB play Alter last night... I would say he is pretty good.
RB actually won a lot of points from his serving too.
He actually started the year as a setter, so he's adapted well.
Alter's libero had some good digs, knew where to be, but looked young - he'll probably be good in a few years.
I honestly don't know much of the D1 schools outside of the GCL and Cincinnati - so this is extremely biased and based purely off of the request for the so called "big 3".
S: Pieper, Moeller
OH: Talbot, St. X
OH: Print, Darby
OPP: Kerlin, Northmont
MB: Spoelker, St. X
MB: Nortmann, Elder
L: Dahm, St. X
Back Ups:
OH: Goldschmidt, LaSalle
OH: Laib, Oak Hills
L: Lee, Darby
NOTE:
Haven't seen Ed's play, so I don't know about Winters at OH.
My picks at middle are a bit underwhelming for me, but could't think of others off hand.
And of course, when it really comes down to it the All State teams are ALL politics, not necessarily the best players in the state.
Perhaps the All-Yappi team would beat the All State team head-to-head
Now being mentioned for D1 1st team:
MB: Carson Susich, Moeller
Heard Fiorenza may have an ankle injury?
Also, just found out that Storc is out for season due to academics
East POY will most likely get the State POY as they have had the best performances in the DII group team wise.
So that would make it a 3 horse race:
Randolph, Watterson
Feltz, DeSales
MacManaway, Mt. Vernon (hard for a middle to get recognition being on the bench half the game though)
adselder09
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Depends on how important this player is to his team. If they force middle a lot or he's the go-to guy to end a run, they won't have a problem giving it to him. See Matthew Harpeneau for Elder in 2010.
Brambleberry
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While MH are certainly under appreciated, it is no comparison to Liberos.
Noteable middles to make 1st team:
Max Holt, Danny Brandel, Mark Shipp, John Tholen, Matt Harpenau, Andy Sellan, Owen McAndrews, Casey Pieper, Jarrod Kelso
Has there been even one Libero to make 1st team all state the last 5 years? I can't think of any
Noteable middles to make 1st team:
Max Holt, Danny Brandel, Mark Shipp, John Tholen, Matt Harpenau, Andy Sellan, Owen McAndrews, Casey Pieper, Jarrod Kelso
Has there been even one Libero to make 1st team all state the last 5 years? I can't think of any
adselder09
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Did Alex Bertke make 1st team in '08 as a libero? Or was that 2nd team?
According to this site http://www.ohiohsvb.com/VB_B_Best_Players/VB_B_All State Teams - 2008.htm
Alex Bertke was Honorable Mention
Alex Bertke was Honorable Mention
adselder09
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Correct. Thought he was higher than that. Very true about liberos and 1st/2nd team.
Who was Moellers freshman Libero in 2009. He was gooooood