#PACtion™ 2025

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thePITman

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It's time to kick off the next installment of the PAC-7's award-winning #PACtion™ football thread! Our 2024 campaign recently eclipsed 10,000 posts, so the bar has been set high.

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Anyway, without any further ado...

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All #PACtion™ fans: it's time to get all paranoid around our football complexes just like Al Davis did with the Raiders and alleged spies at the team facility.

Be on guard for your coaching staff. Will the PTO be plundering it?
 
This could be good news for #PACtion™.......upon further thought I believe the PTO job may not be as attractive as some believe:

1. The legend of Keith Wakefield still looms in the background.

2. If you don't coach the wing-P you have to install a totally new offense to kids who only know the wing-P.

3. Expectations are always high.

4. Competition is tuff.

5. Perry is not one of the bigger Fed teams either physically or enrollment wise.

6. Perry is a melting pot and you have to be able to coach all sorts of kids from Richville country kids to Perry Country Club kids to Canton City kids.

7. Let's say hypothetically Wakefield is long gone and nowhere near the football program with the next coach hire. You then have the Massillon question. Wakefield didn't want to play the Tigers. Would a new Perry coach? The new coach will need to answer that question.

8. Zach Slates had a 16-28 record. Was he Wakefield's hand picked choice to replace him or not? I've heard conflicting stories about that. Irregardless, you're having to clean up a football team that has been weak.

IMO....It will take someone from the PTO to coach the PTO. Someone who knows what I listed above.

Are any of the #PACtion™ coaching candidates ready to take all of this on?
 
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Rich Kotite said:
This could be good news for #PACtion™.......upon further thought I believe the PTO job may not be as attractive as some believe:

1. The legend of Keith Wakefield still looms in the background.

2. If you don't coach the wing-P you have to install a totally new offense to kids who only know the wing-P.

3. Expectations are always high.

4. Competition is tuff.

5. Perry is not one of the bigger Fed teams either physically or enrollment wise.

6. Perry is a melting pot and you have to be able to coach all sorts of kids from Richville country kids to Perry Country Club kids to Canton City kids.

7. Let's say hypothetically Wakefield is long gone and nowhere near the football program with the next coach hire. You then have the Massillon question. Wakefield didn't want to play the Tigers. Would a new Perry coach? The new coach will need to answer that question.

8. Zach Slates had a 16-28 record. Was he Wakefield's hand picked choice to replace him or not? I've heard conflicting stories about that. Irregardless, you're having to clean up a football team that has been weak.

IMO....It will take someone from the PTO to coach the PTO. Someone who knows what I listed above.

Are any of the #PACtion™ coaching candidates ready to take all of this on?
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I bet there is a coach somewhere on 13th street that is used to coaching a melting pot of players and is used to playing Federal league teams?
 
perry1480 said:
Was the longtime 9th grade coach. Pretty successful “Coach” no matter the sport.
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Your idea makes sense. The other question: he'd be keeping the wing-P, correct?

The only downside I can see is this is Stark County football and a D2 school with a Massillon zip code to boot. Those in power might want to make a "splash" hire and while Daugherty makes sense it's not a "flashy" hire.

But getting an established coach from somewhere else can be. Hiring away some experienced coach from somewhere else or someone like AJ Sarbaugh or Kevin Stacy or Brian Gamble or (God forbid) Broc Dial will generate the local media headlines and "buzz."

Hiring Daugherty is a move that knowledgeable PTO people would do.....the sort of decision that you'd want to see from your school board. Not flashy but solid and he's already in the district. He's never played girls softball but wins state titles. He was the 9th grade coach for a while. He played there.

Would some of the Olde Tuffs like Dan Ifft or Wakefield help Daugherty out as assistants?
 
Rich Kotite said:
Your idea makes sense. The other question: he'd be keeping the wing-P, correct?

The only downside I can see is this is Stark County football and a D2 school with a Massillon zip code to boot. Those in power might want to make a "splash" hire and while Daugherty makes sense it's not a "flashy" hire.

But getting an established coach from somewhere else can be. Hiring away some experienced coach from somewhere else or someone like AJ Sarbaugh or Kevin Stacy or Brian Gamble or (God forbid) Broc Dial will generate the local media headlines and "buzz."

Hiring Daugherty is a move that knowledgeable PTO people would do.....the sort of decision that you'd want to see from your school board. Not flashy but solid and he's already in the district. He's never played girls softball but wins state titles. He was the 9th grade coach for a while. He played there.

Would some of the Olde Tuffs like Dan Ifft or Wakefield help Daugherty out as assistants?
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With Doc, absolutely.

I unfortunately fear that splashy flashy trashy will win out with the next hire. Administration types can’t help themselves anymore… they’re kinda like the kids/programs who are more concerned with things looking good instead of the things that are not sexy but good. I did like that about slates… he wasn’t flashy but unfortunately there is a shelf life to a lack of success.

With my own kids entering their high school years not at Perry and family ending their high school careers in the next couple years… it would cement my overall apathy for something that once existed at Perry but with the wrong/outside hire, would evaporate quickly… and that is the tuffness without the pomp.

Theres a reason why Perry isn’t Massillon. The PTO pre 2006 doesn’t want to be Massillon.
 
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perry1480 said:
With Doc, absolutely.

I unfortunately fear that splashy flashy trashy will win out with the next hire. Administration types can’t help themselves anymore… they’re kinda like the kids/programs who are more concerned with things looking good instead of the things that are not sexy but good. I did like that about slates… he wasn’t flashy but unfortunately there is a shelf life to a lack of success.

With my own kids entering their high school years not at Perry and family ending their high school careers in the next couple years… it would cement my overall apathy for something that once existed at Perry but with the wrong/outside hire, would evaporate quickly… and that is the tuffness without the pomp.

Theres a reason why Perry isn’t Massillon. The PTO pre 2006 doesn’t want to be Massillon.
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I remember seeing him play....tough kid...does he have much football coaching experience beside 9th grade? I know Ted Durbin was a 9th grade coach....did they coach together?
 
Rich Kotite said:
This could be good news for #PACtion™.......upon further thought I believe the PTO job may not be as attractive as some believe:

1. The legend of Keith Wakefield still looms in the background.

2. If you don't coach the wing-P you have to install a totally new offense to kids who only know the wing-P.

3. Expectations are always high.

4. Competition is tuff.

5. Perry is not one of the bigger Fed teams either physically or enrollment wise.

6. Perry is a melting pot and you have to be able to coach all sorts of kids from Richville country kids to Perry Country Club kids to Canton City kids.

7. Let's say hypothetically Wakefield is long gone and nowhere near the football program with the next coach hire. You then have the Massillon question. Wakefield didn't want to play the Tigers. Would a new Perry coach? The new coach will need to answer that question.

8. Zach Slates had a 16-28 record. Was he Wakefield's hand picked choice to replace him or not? I've heard conflicting stories about that. Irregardless, you're having to clean up a football team that has been weak.

IMO....It will take someone from the PTO to coach the PTO. Someone who knows what I listed above.

Are any of the #PACtion™ coaching candidates ready to take all of this on?
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I will always remember his win against McKinley in 2022!

Does Sarbaugh apply?.....teaching at Fairless I would think is calmer then a larger school.
 
Rich Kotite said:
Jeff Lindesmith.
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Duh on my part....he has been at Central forever...I don't see him leaving, he was an assistant coach on the 1988 State Championship Team....he would probably love getting Perry off the schedule, or off of the first game spot... I bet he would like to be in the PAC
 
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