Ohio State Buckeyes 2022
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warren1st
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Prove it. He will NEVER leave Michigan ‘til he retires.
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No, I don’t think they are. I think Nick Saban will likely come to the conclusion that their results warrant firing one or both of their coordinators.You think Alabama is satisfied with their season? Yeah we lost 2 games, no SEC or national title...but at least we played a tough schedule!
10-2 doesn’t cut it at Bama when compared to the prior 14 years, which is why Bama (and UGA) have the highest standards going in college football.
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A&M has the talent to line up and play with just about anybody. They’re hamstrung by Jimbo’s terrible offensive schemes and a seeming cultural/motivational problem. It seems they were able to get up and play really well against their biggest-name opponents, but then coast against other lesser opponents. Let’s not forget that Bama beat A&M without Bryce Young.Arkansas and A&M?
Arkansas is a pretty good team but lost the SEC attrition war, especially with KJ Jefferson missing time. Bama won handily, even with Bryce Young out for much of the game.
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Supereliteshowcase
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I’m not an SEC fan but let’s be clear….there are no less than three SEC teams that would embarrass either OSU or Michigan. Georgia, Bama, And South Carolina would all be favored over any Pig Ten team. Good luck to Michigan. Try not to loose by 35 in the playoffs.
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So which SEC teams that made the playoff or BCS title game over the past 15 years didn’t belong there, and who should’ve made it over them? Since that’s what’s being discussed.
Here’s your reality check: The SEC has won 12 of the past 16 national championships. All of those were won on the field. And although Alabama has been the lead dog with 6 national titles in that timeframe, the SEC has seen five of its schools win national titles in that timeframe, including Florida and LSU each winning twice, and Auburn and UGA each with one title and one loss in a national title game.
Compare that output and number of high-caliber schools with any other conference and it’s not even a contest. Maybe the Big Ten will get closer once USC joins the conference to hopefully put an end to the suffocating malaise that envelops allegedly big-time programs like Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska and Michigan State. Those are the culprits you should be mad at, not ESPN or the SEC.
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As you should be. Sure, he struggled in big rivalry games for a few years, but he has turned that narrative on its head. And he consistently wins the games he should. And now he has the Michigan program ascending past Ohio State into Big Ten lead dog status (until USC shows up).
Harbaugh has won everywhere he’s been, from SDSU to Stanford to the 49ers and now Michigan.
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I think a lot of the nation is waking up this morning to the reality that once 2024 hits, Ohio State will be down to the #3 team in their own conference.
You all laughed early this season when I told you that USC would be the big dog in the Big Ten upon their arrival. I bet no one is laughing now.
What’s even more concerning is getting leapfrogged by Michigan.
Wow.
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You all laughed early this season when I told you that USC would be the big dog in the Big Ten upon their arrival. I bet no one is laughing now.
What’s even more concerning is getting leapfrogged by Michigan.
Wow.
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That was week 1. Getting humiliated at home in week 13 has a lot more weight to it.Yeah, a Ohio State win over Notre Dame isn't worth much
nwwarrior09
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Imagine having someone kick your , mock you telling you that you're only successful because you were born on third base, and then come back the next year and they beat your even worse than the previous year.
Talent is not the problem. Ryan Day is the problem, and I'd be terrified to see what he'd do if he didn't easily have one of the 3-4 most talented rosters in the country. Back-to-back years of getting stomped by Jim Harbaugh while having an enormous individual talent advantage. He has to go next year if they get blasted again.
Talent is not the problem. Ryan Day is the problem, and I'd be terrified to see what he'd do if he didn't easily have one of the 3-4 most talented rosters in the country. Back-to-back years of getting stomped by Jim Harbaugh while having an enormous individual talent advantage. He has to go next year if they get blasted again.
Reality set in. Now I will have time to find and work on those things that are more important in life. Like watching College wrestling and going to see Ohio state wrestling live. O-H I-O I have been working hard on my bucket list and checked off another by getting season tickets to wrestling.
Can't blame em. Nobody wants to watch Georgia beat OSU by 40.
Supereliteshowcase
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But he also recruited a lot of the guys playing in the NFL. I don't think folks were questioning Coomb's talent assessment and recruiting which were quite good but his coaching and game day defensive game plans.
The fact remains that over the last few years when playing better competition the Ohio State defense has had some epic collapses regardless of defensive coaching.
Was that a consequence of the competition this year versus last year? Against top level offensive teams the Buckeye's defense has had some spectacular melt downs. And these melt downs occur regardless of the defensive coaching staff.
The challenge with comparing the Ohio State defense year to year is that they play so many teams with terrible offenses. The data set is limited when you're looking at how the D has fared against top flight competition.
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This is true. It’s realistic to say Ohio State played two solid offenses to end the year and one that might be solid except the QB is extremely mid (Penn State). They gave up 30+ points in all three games.
Everyone else they played has an unimpressive to outright bad offense.
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bob99
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I agree. I am saying one of Ohio State's quality wins was against Notre Dame. With the year Notre Dame had, that isn't a quality win.
smurfyeah19
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Agreed. I think Ohio State had a brutally bad gameplan and Michigan knew exactly what to do to beat it. Defense playing straight up man was a joke against a team with that many playmakers. Also CJ Stroud outright refusing to scramble played right into their hands. Just drop into a zone against him and force him to make quick decisions. He can’t do that well
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Hammerdrill
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Truly mind blowing, JJ was only 50%, and as you stated, Corum didn't play.
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It is a combination of coaching and scheme. Someone needs to go, for sure. I would start with the DC. Then Day needs to replace himself as play caller.
Hammerdrill
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You actually think the competition was that markedly different? It would take some statistical crunching to figure that out. But I can tell you that our D line and LBs were much, much better in their techniques, and being in position. Those 2 things really don't have anything to do with who you are playing. And I really doubt that year to year, the competition is markedly different when looked at in the aggregate. We win this game by playing zone more, and having better DBs. And or calling a better game on the offensive side.
Scheme is coaching.
Hammerdrill
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Of course they had something to do with it. But when you evaluate results, you look at what you can control. Ohio State can't control what UM does, so why would we discuss that? Bottom line is that we knew we wanted to make JJ beat us, and he pretty much did, but it wasn't because if his stellar play. That is how football works sometimes.
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Obviously they are closely related, but they are not the same thing.