Ohio - Issue 2

Yea right it all makes sense now. LOL
My son in law (from Virginia) was about 3 miles from me yesterday. He was up on business and wanted to meet for lunch, but I was working too.

I told him that I didn't want to hear from him unless he was calling to tell me my next grandchild is on the way or if he needed instructions on how to get it done. He said he was more of a visual leaner. I offered to make an instructional video - which would give me an opportunity to bust out some of my best moves. He declined. 😆
 
Preferably, Miss Mary Jane should've just been decriminalized nationwide, but not legalized. The cartels losing business to legal pot farms in the US led to a lot of harder drug trafficking from Mexico. Some states thought otherwise. At this point I figure vote yes to at least get the stuff tainted with fentanyl and such out of the market as the door to traffic can't be closed anymore. Hindsight is 20/20 unfortunately.
 
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Local paper today had 3 editorials on Issue 2 and, it was funny, the primary health care organizations in the county, including the ADAMAS (alcholol/ rehab services) says to vote no. A long time, well respected retired doctor in the area says 2. Guess who was the yes vote, of course they had photos of all in there. A guy looked about 35. The two no votes were more centered around not much case study on the evidence of lengthy, long term use of pot vs. alcohol, which people tend to compare the two. Alcohol is in and out of the system quickly, pot is not. The other no votes say that one simple deterrent of pot for many that it is, as of now, illegal. You take that barrier down and who knows.
The young guy with they yes vote mainly centered around the money aspect, meaning the regulation and taxation, that Ohio currently loses to Michigan. Also says that if regulated, it could put drug dealers out of business, and that pot would be safer because it would be regulated. One of the scary things today about pot is the fatal fentanyl that's in it.
I was just amused by this, because it's literally old school vs. new school. My vote is no, and it was that way all along. I'm in the camp that we don't need any more deterrents and distraction for people. To me there is no amount of money and taxes that is worth the destructing aspects of the community in general. Medical marijuana, fine, I'm all for that - For those few who can't find anything else that works. That's different than having a pot store on every streetcorner.
Fentanyl in weed?? Where did you get that factoid...from trump? Hahaha

MJ is dramatically less harmful than alcohol and millions consume with no issues. Get over it and legalize recreational MJ with a yes vote.
 
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Interestingly, the two biggest users of marijuana from my HS days, over 30 years ago, passed away from heart attacks. One was 48 and the other just a couple of months ago was 54.

No idea if there is a correlation but it is interesting. Neither lived really clean lives and I'm guessing both graduated to harder stuff for a little while. They both seemed to be doing reasonably well when they passed.
 
I have a question. If it is made legal what happens to companies with policies against using, such as machine operators, truckdrivers and the like?
 
Stop asking dumb questions. Can machine operators get drunk and go to work today?
Cant be under the influence while on the job and if I could smell it you did not get to drive . So how do you know if a person is on weed? If you test them it can show up for weeks.
 
Cant be under the influence while on the job and if I could smell it you did not get to drive . So how do you know if a person is on weed? If you test them it can show up for weeks.
That was not the question you asked. As for you next question, try to find the answer yourself.
 
Interestingly, the two biggest users of marijuana from my HS days, over 30 years ago, passed away from heart attacks. One was 48 and the other just a couple of months ago was 54.

No idea if there is a correlation but it is interesting. Neither lived really clean lives and I'm guessing both graduated to harder stuff for a little while. They both seemed to be doing reasonably well when they passed.
Did they get the jab?!?!? o_O o_O o_O
 
Interestingly, the two biggest users of marijuana from my HS days, over 30 years ago, passed away from heart attacks. One was 48 and the other just a couple of months ago was 54.

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I do think that is a stretch Yappi. I have a friend from high school who did all kinds of acid back then and has been a coker his whole adult life and he's now 67 and still kicking. Now if you think the smoke in the lungs may have something to do with their heart attacks that would make more sense then just saying smoking marijuana specifically. I know someone now who has a medical card and is developing a smokers cough just like they would from smoking cigarettes. IMO I think it is the smoke on the lungs causing more of the health issues versus the drug content of pot.
 
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I'm not blaming the marijuana, I just thought it was an interesting anecdote. I'm at that age when people that I went to school with are slowly starting to die off. They stood out in school because of their heavy usage and interestingly were one of the first to pass away.
 
I have a question. If it is made legal what happens to companies with policies against using, such as machine operators, truckdrivers and the like?
They say they want to treat Weed like Alcohol. Not legal to operate a machine,drive a truck or show up for work now under the influence of alcohol or drugs so I’d assume those policies would remain the same.
 
They say they want to treat Weed like Alcohol. Not legal to operate a machine,drive a truck or show up for work now under the influence of alcohol or drugs so I’d assume those policies would remain the same.
You’ll most likely get fired but there’s no law I know of that makes that illegal.
 
I have a question. If it is made legal what happens to companies with policies against using, such as machine operators, truckdrivers and the like?
They are under no obligation to change anything. Alcohol is legal. It’s not welcome in every setting.
 
I do think that is a stretch Yappi. I have a friend from high school who did all kinds of acid back then and has been a coker his whole adult life and he's now 67 and still kicking. Now if you think the smoke in the lungs may have something to do with their heart attacks that would make more sense then just saying smoking marijuana specifically. I know someone now who has a medical card and is developing a smokers cough just like they would from smoking cigarettes. IMO I think it is the smoke on the lungs causing more of the health issues versus the drug content of pot.
It’s not legal to smoke medical weed. You’re supposed to vape it
 
They say they want to treat Weed like Alcohol. Not legal to operate a machine,drive a truck or show up for work now under the influence of alcohol or drugs so I’d assume those policies would remain the same.
It does seem kind of unfair that weed remains in your system for so long that a person could get high on a Saturday and test positive for weed on Thursday and not be even remotely intoxicated, but until that gets adjudicated, one way or another, it’s easy enough to say that the testing works the same as it does for alcohol. It’s not as if there is some requirement for somebody blowing an alcohol DUI to also fail at the physical side of a field sobriety test.
 
Voted yes. It will be interesting to see that the loons in Columbus do. The President of the Senate has already talked about wanting to change a lot of it and hasn't ruled out repealing it completely to keep it from becoming law. But I expect this to pass very easily as it has become one of the few social issues with bipartisan support
 
I'm the enemy (55-year-old white dude) and I even voted yes. Then again, I'm also pro-choice, support gay marriage and voted for the devil, apparently, in '16 and '20.
 
In my community, Issue 1 was winning by a very large margin. Issue 2 was much closer. My community generally trends liberal, so it will be interesting to see if and by how much this passes. I will be shocked if it doesn't pass but would feel a little better if it was a close vote.

My community also voted by huge margins for three different tax levys. I'm getting to the point where I'm going to start refusing to vote for any levy. It will be my little protest as my vote doesn't appear to matter with taxes. People just want to keep adding to their tax burden with no end in sight.
 
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