just being realistic. they were young last year but had some nice pieces. they don’t graduate a ton of production. word on the street is the junior high team only lost a game and had some athletes. in short, expectations should be low now and 2024 will be about building for 2025-2027. there are 6 winnable games on the schedule (Miami East, Northwestern, Fairbanks, SCC, Cedarville, Madison Plains) and, i think they will get 3 or 4 of those.
Everharts were Shawnee in the early 90s. Probably came up to Dick McDaniels famous “Garage”. Was just the back of Dick’s business where he worked on cars. I took my vehicles to him for years and he loved to show people the wall where some of the biggest names in the country came to work out or recruit…..Sorry back to OHC footballWls_color and bcw, thanks, and sorry for taxing your memories,
Robertson was being recruited by everyone but didn’t have the grades from what I hear. He was set to play for Central State but their football team folded. An Ohio Northern assistant just happened to see him working at a Foot Locker or Finish Line at the mall soon after Central State fell apart. The rest is Ohio Northern Polar Bear history!
You are are a wealth of information. Nice post.
Thank you. I apologize for confusing the players. That was a heck of a game. For that matter a strong league with Versailles,Tipp,West Milton,Miami East,Covington and Central to go with Stebbins. It seems to me I might even be missing a team.
Don’t ever let it happen again…..ha! Also had Graham and Sidney Lehman (annual Fish Bowl vs SCC)
I've heard multiple people say that. Maybe it's because they're both neighboring districts, but I don't think either are really that bad. Both in BFE. Ben Logan seems easier to get to IMO, but again, that's probably because they're both 15 minutes away.
try driving to Triad from Fairborn. not fun!
I also feel like Ben Logan is an easier drive than Triad. But that is coming from Springfield.
coming from Fairborn, i recall taking route 4 to 68, then turning right on route 47 and driving for a few miles. Ben Logan felt “out their”!
You wouldn't be the first person that got lost at Woodstock!!!
any D7 school rolling out 35-40 players is in good shape.
my goodness!
I like to see them play Shawnee.
I think Shawnee would handle them by a couple of scores
Greeneview's opponents in weeks 1-4 last season had a record of 36-14 including two regional runner ups. Per Joe Eitle, it appears they have been playing Waynesville for almost a decade in week 2. Week 1's have included Arcanum, Northridge, Stebbins, and Middletown Madison in that time frame. Not sure what else they can really do with only two non conference games. A game with Shawnee seems like a fit. I think each year would be a toss up depending on who was up or down, it would be very competitive.
when i say “schedule up” i mean play some larger school. the Waynesville game is a nice matchup
All those teams named except grennon and thurgood would smash Greeneview. Greeneview is a great program but would struggle against all named teams aboveLooking at Shawnee's non-conference opponents the last 10 years:
2023: Stebbins (D2), Madeira (D5)
2021 & 2022: Valley View (D4/D5), Eaton (D4)
2020:
2018 & 2019: Greenon (D5), Tippecanoe (D3)
2016 & 2017: Thurgood Marshall (D3), Tippecanoe (D3)
2014 & 2015: Butler (D2), Springfield (D1)
2012 & 2013: Catholic Central (D7) , Troy (D1/D2)
Looks like Shawnee has always tried to schedule solid bigger schools, or similar sized schools that are very good. I think Greeneview would be a real possibility and a great schedule addition for both teams.
Shawnee has always been one that I'd love WLS to schedule annually, over playing the local rivalries like Ben Logan and Graham. I know they've dabbled in scrimmages like WLS does with Urbana, but I'd like to see it turn into real Week 1/2 games.
Greeneview-Shawnee makes a ton of sense though. And it doesn't appear that they've ever played.
A Waynesville team that went 11-3 doesn't provide a tough enough game for Greeneview to play? Who should they schedule the state champ?
Greeneview and Shawnee used to throw against each other in 7 on 7 every year. Not sure if they still do or not.Looking at Shawnee's non-conference opponents the last 10 years:
2023: Stebbins (D2), Madeira (D5)
2021 & 2022: Valley View (D4/D5), Eaton (D4)
2020:
2018 & 2019: Greenon (D5), Tippecanoe (D3)
2016 & 2017: Thurgood Marshall (D3), Tippecanoe (D3)
2014 & 2015: Butler (D2), Springfield (D1)
2012 & 2013: Catholic Central (D7) , Troy (D1/D2)
Looks like Shawnee has always tried to schedule solid bigger schools, or similar sized schools that are very good. I think Greeneview would be a real possibility and a great schedule addition for both teams.
Shawnee has always been one that I'd love WLS to schedule annually, over playing the local rivalries like Ben Logan and Graham. I know they've dabbled in scrimmages like WLS does with Urbana, but I'd like to see it turn into real Week 1/2 games.
Greeneview-Shawnee makes a ton of sense though. And it doesn't appear that they've ever played.
You don't think this is a bit of a stretch? Each of those teams you listed are DIII, with the exception of Massie. Do any of the OHC schools schedule up two divisions for non league games? I guess I could look it up on Joe, but I just can't remember a whole lot of that happening. Heck, Cedarville schedules teams that didn't even field a team the previous year and teams that aren't even sanctioned with the OHSAA (2022).
I stand corrected. I do see some OHC schools who scheduled up two divisions last year. But I don't see the benefit gained by any of them except for possibly Burg vs. KR. Either the OHC school got beat or if they won their opponent was awful.
Also, what would any of those teams have to gain by scheduling a D-V Greeneview team?