Quit making statements that have no verification. #1 What confirmation have you received that there's a possibility that it could even get voted on in the near future, much less pass? #2 I have received confirmation that there it is not even under consideration for the near future #3 Unfortunately, there is no guarantee what the next 3-4 years might bring #4 On the other hand girls wrestling is really taking off and I'm hearing expansion is definitely being discussed.
What do you mean by girls expanding?
Why are you so offended that there’s going to be 4 divisions?
LOL!! There is no issue of being offended, at least for me. But I have to admit that your insistence that this is a done deal and that it's about to be implemented by Columbus is annoying. Especially when I inquire what sources have verified/confirmed this expansion and I get nothing. You really are cocksure aren't you?
Who are your sources? Let me guess, your source wants to remain anonymous
Adding a division means 16 more sectionals, 4 more districts, and 224 more wrestlers at the state tournament… with all session books at $75/ea I’d say it would bring in a little extra cash.
Really? LOL!! If that were the case the only fans at sectionals would be parents because there won't be a competition to enjoy. But maybe they could double the ticket prices. There you have it.
What sectionals do you go to that have fans other than family members? Or teammates that aren't wrestling? I've been coaching quite awhile and the sectional doesn't get casual fans watching. District, maybe? State, for sure.
Based on current numbers, correct, but based on the rate in which they are increasing, it needs to be discussed so OHSAA isn't playing catch-up. Plus, the sooner the girls split into 2 divisions the sooner they can leave the Schott, correct?
My point is that when I left coaching and became an official sectionals were much different in that getting out was a chore. Up until about 2005 it wasn't a shock if returning state qualifiers didn't make it to districts. In this present age I've seen sectional champs that don't have a ghost of a chance to make it out of districts and just qualifying to a district isn't much of an accomplishment. If we would move to four divisions, how do you think that would work out with wanting to go watch a competitive sectional? This is just my opinion as a retired official.
I don't disagree with you here at all. I started coaching D3 in 2012, in 2015 I was absolutely floored when I saw a sectional had several brackets with 4 or less kids in them, and for a period that was quite normal.
How about 2 divisions and become competitive.
My understanding for soccer, baseball , softball, basketball they are going to have 5 divisions. D1 top 64 teams D2next 64 teams. D3-D5 will be broken up from there.
soccer will be five (currently three) - 64/64 then three equal behind that
The reality of it is unless you are so sure OHSAA can find a place either for a 4 day tournament and room 4 10 mats finals, kicks the girls out of the Schott ( not happening) or finds a place big enough to hold 12 mats plus plenty of room on the floor for all the Tournament needs ( No place like that in Ohio) 4 Divisions in Wrestling isn't happening anytime soon. And theres really no need for it.
Looks like their championship streak will continue with ease.
Where do you find these numbers?
OHSAA website. Go to the drop down menu and you will see a tab that says school resources, then a second tab that says enrollment figures. They are listed there.
If there are 491 teams and the breakdown for divisions in the regulations (General Sports, 17.1) states:
Not to answer for Bucksman, but answering for him, yes. I did the same thing yesterday pulling numbers from D3 sectionals. D3 alone had a lot of 7 and 8 man rosters entered on entry grids. You get a couple of scratches per sectional, especially from those borderline rosters, and now you have several non-teams. I've had this happen twice over my career, had one kid miss weight and another popped for skin, sent me from 7 to 6 both times.