New Jersey Boys Basketball...Winning Shot Overturned...Chaos
- Thread starter radiodaveagain
- Start date
Somebody pointed out that it was in fact at a neutral site. It was just a heavily pro-Camden crowd.
You're right....it was at Central Regional HS in Newark. Hour and a half from Camden an hour from Manasquan
Cedar_Point
Well-known member
14Red
Well-known member
This is one of the worst calls I've seen and it has to stand. I think NJ is going to have to put some provision in now where review can be used. How could one of the officials know 100% sure that the ball was in the hand when the buzzer went off and isn't there 3 officials? Did one claim they didn't see it? It really wasn't even that close.
Cedar_Point
Well-known member
If you watch the huddle of the officials the AD of Camden is also in the huddle with the assistant director of njsiaa. Clearly foul play is involved
Going to the sideline or the scorers table after the buzzer isn't "leaving the floor".
Irwin20
Well-known member
Yep.
AllSports12
Moderator
Apparently, the lawsuit has been filed.
www.cbsnews.com
Lawsuit filed to overturn Camden High School's controversial win over Manasquan in N.J. basketball state semifinals
Manasquan was left stunned when the officials waved off their apparent game-winning shot as time expired.
www.cbsnews.com
AllSports12
Moderator
We often forget that the 2009-2010 rule change that allows (not requires) states to use video replay to determine if a goal scored at the expiration of time in the 4th quarter or any overtime period should be counted and/or if it's a two or three point goal, was the result of the 2008 Ohio Girl's D1 last second shot that was incorrectly ruled upon.
That rule change was recommended by the OHSAA.
That rule change was recommended by the OHSAA.
It already got thrown out.Apparently, the lawsuit has been filed.
Lawsuit filed to overturn Camden High School's controversial win over Manasquan in N.J. basketball state semifinals
Manasquan was left stunned when the officials waved off their apparent game-winning shot as time expired.
Manasquan-Camden basketball controversy went to court. Here's the judge's ruling
Two days after getting robbed of a monumental victory over Camden by the refs, Manasquan basketball dealt another defeat by a judge in Ocean County.
www.dailyrecord.com
AllSports12
Moderator
As it should have....It already got thrown out.
Manasquan-Camden basketball controversy went to court. Here's the judge's ruling
Two days after getting robbed of a monumental victory over Camden by the refs, Manasquan basketball dealt another defeat by a judge in Ocean County.
A lawsuit over the outcome of a high school sporting event may be the whitest white person thing anyone has ever done.
What if the situation was reversed? Would it be the blackest black thing anyone had ever done?
Come on you’re better than that. If you knew 1000% your players got hosed and it was backed up by numerous amounts of video evidence, you’d do the same. If not then you shouldn’t be in a role to help your guys.
Well, you appeal to the sport governing body of which you are a signatory. Which they did, and it got rejected. Thats that. You can fight to get a rule changed, or for video reviews, or something, but suing because you lost a game? Yup, that’s something only the parents or administrators of a rich white kid school would do. What a life lesson for these kids to learn! Oh, something didn’t go your way and you got screwed? Sue!
Again why is it only rich white kids? What if the situation was reversed? Just answer that one question. If your kid was on the losing end of this game would you just take the ho hum it’s a learning experience thing mind set?
To be transparent I would not with all the video evidence that is out there.
Camden literally was removed from the playoffs last year over a fight. Did they sue because it wasn’t fair?
No clue, but the melee was on film as well and the officials were all 3 in agreement of what was going on. The video was sent to the governing body of New Jersey, and they made the call. Video evidence backed up the officials covering the game.
Just answer the question. What if Camden had gotten screwed over with video evidence?
They abided by the state’s sport governing body, of which they were a signatory. Manasquan isn’t and decided to sue. My point is that Camden wouldn’t sue. Lawsuits over petty issues are a super privileged thing to do given the cost of legal fees. Mansaquan had a right to be upset and they had a right to appeal to the state’s sport governing body. They ruled what they ruled. You don’t go suing because you don’t like the outcome.
I would accept the outcome, because in this case, the school voluntarily agreed to be a member of an organization knowing they have a rule that says “outcomes are final even if they’re wrong.” You signed up to play by that ruleset. You don’t get to change it when it doesn’t suit you.
Cedar_Point
Well-known member
Nobody sued anyone
mustang fan
Active member
For those that are of the opinion that reffing/officiating is challenging/hard to do/difficult/not easy/etc...I concur. However, making the right and proper call in this situation is none of these.
Everyone that has good vision knows that the shot should have counted...No question. Everyone in attendance knows that...Anyone that watches video of the final shot knows this as well.
The final result is clearly tainted and the declared winning team should do the right thing and not claim the win. They, and everyone else, knows that the win was not legitimate. How can this team, with a clear conscience, proceed on knowing this?
The referees involved should never again be permitted to officiate a game higher than the middle school level and the governing body of high school athletics in New Jersey really needs to come out of the dark ages pertaining to its bylaws/rules.
mustang fan
Active member
No.
If one of the referees determined that the final shot taken was before the final buzzer but was overruled by the other refs a statement regarding that should be issued and that ref should not suffer any consequences as a result of this occurrence.
AllSports12
Moderator
Sure they did.......
- Suit filed then dismissed by the judge because the court had no jurisdiction until an appeal was filed with the NJ DOE.
Cedar_Point
Well-known member
You clearly don’t know what the word sue means.
They filed an injunction, big difference
AllSports12
Moderator
The official who convinced the crew that the shot was late will most likely lose assignments because of this. However, it won't be by mandate, nor should it be.
My guess is they adopt the NFHS rule that allows for replay on a last second shot in the 4th and overtime periods