Jefferson out of the NE8 starting 2023.

kingpin2010 said:
From what I remember, Liberty's stadium is no smaller than other NE8 schools like Range, Struthers, Lakeview, and Girard. Also I am not sure I buy that capacity number in relation to others, according to that site Liberty's stadium has less capacity than Ridge and I know that is not accurate and that Howland is only 2200.
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Latest numbers from Ohio stadiums.com

South Range 4500
Girard 4000
Howland 3521
Struthers 3500
Lakeview 3450
Mineral Ridge 3200
Liberty 3000

Here's the rest of the NE8:
Niles 9718
Poland 5754
Hubbard 5000
Jefferson 5000
 
HubCapper said:
Latest numbers from Ohio stadiums.com

South Range 4500
Girard 4000
Howland 3521
Struthers 3500
Lakeview 3450
Mineral Ridge 3200
Liberty 3000

Here's the rest of the NE8:
Niles 9718
Poland 5754
Hubbard 5000
Jefferson 5000
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I had clicked on the wrong one for Howland. However, there is zero chance that SR has 1500 more seating capacity than Liberty, and definitely zero chance Ridge is more. If I had to guess, SR and Liberty about the same in the 3500 range, Ridge 2500, the rest look about right.
 
kingpin2010 said:
I had clicked on the wrong one for Howland. However, there is zero chance that SR has 1500 more seating capacity than Liberty, and definitely zero chance Ridge is more. If I had to guess, SR and Liberty about the same in the 3500 range, Ridge 2500, the rest look about right.
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I'm only going by the numbers on their site. As I remember, Liberty's away side was almost non-existent at around 500. There was more Hubbard fans standing around the fence than actually sitting in the stands because of Hubbard's 200 piece marching band sitting there as well. As I have stated before, most of Liberty's numbers (3000) are coming from their home side which is a nice size. I actually think what's throwing you off is Mineral Ridge I think has a bigger away side than Liberty does.
 
Liberty's away stands do not seem that small to me. Granted last time I was physically in their stadium was for a Hubbard - Liberty game back in 2010 or 2011. If you read that ohiostadiums.com site, it also says the stadium does not have soccer, but you can clearly see once they put the artificial turf in, they play soccer there.

From the Google satellite view of Leopard Stadium:
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Of course, Liberty's away stands are smaller than the visiting stands at Hubbard Memorial Stadium (aka The Beautiful):
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kingpin2010 said:
I had clicked on the wrong one for Howland. However, there is zero chance that SR has 1500 more seating capacity than Liberty, and definitely zero chance Ridge is more. If I had to guess, SR and Liberty about the same in the 3500 range, Ridge 2500, the rest look about right.
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Here are some photos I took when it looked like the stadium was close to finished. The home stands are immense. However, the visitor side does look smaller than Liberty's. The numbers at SR do look a bit inflated, especially considering the size of the visitor stands. (JMO)
 

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HubCapper said:
I'm only going by the numbers on their site. As I remember, Liberty's away side was almost non-existent at around 500. There was more Hubbard fans standing around the fence than actually sitting in the stands because of Hubbard's 200 piece marching band sitting there as well. As I have stated before, most of Liberty's numbers (3000) are coming from their home side which is a nice size. I actually think what's throwing you off is Mineral Ridge I think has a bigger away side than Liberty does.
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Ridge is the stadium I’m most familiar with and the ridge away side is quite literally about 6-7 rows, although it extends a decent amount width wise I see no way it’s bigger than Liberty and Liberty home side is bigger
 
Struthersfan said:
Here are some photos I took when it looked like the stadium was close to finished. The home stands are immense. However, the visitor side does look smaller than Liberty's. The numbers at SR do look a bit inflated, especially considering the size of the visitor stands. (JMO)
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Can attest South Range visitors side is not real big. Mogadore played New Middletown Springfield there and we completely filled the visitors side, standing and band in folding chairs in end zone..
 
South Range has a deceptively large home side. The stadium was purposely built with at least 4,000 seats so they could host playoff games.
 
Does anyone know if stadium band shells are included in the total seating capacity? That could be something to take into account if they have a decent size one. We tend to just think of where the fans sit when we think of stadiums but maybe that isn't all they count
 
Redzone Blitz said:
Does anyone know if stadium band shells are included in the total seating capacity? That could be something to take into account if they have a decent size one. We tend to just think of where the fans sit when we think of stadiums but maybe that isn't all they count
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Good question I’m not sure
 
Redzone Blitz said:
Does anyone know if stadium band shells are included in the total seating capacity? That could be something to take into account if they have a decent size one. We tend to just think of where the fans sit when we think of stadiums but maybe that isn't all they count
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Buckeye Elite said:
Good question I’m not sure
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It usually specifies on the website if the band shell or end zone seating is included.
I know for instance Canfield's number includes the permanent band shell but not the seating in the opposite end zone.
 
simkon said:
It usually specifies on the website if the band shell or end zone seating is included.
I know for instance Canfield's number includes the permanent band shell but not the seating in the opposite end zone.
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Hubbard's 5000 number doesn't include the band shell.

Home side 3000
Visitors side 2000
Band shell 250
 
HubCapper said:
Hubbard's 5000 number doesn't include the band shell.

Home side 3000
Visitors side 2000
Band shell 250
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For Canfield, the visitors side seats exactly 2000. The permanent seating in the endzone is 300. The home side seated 1,350 originally, they recently added 400 seats for students, bringing the total capacity to 4,050.
So technically Hubbard would be 5250 vs Canfield's 4050
or alternatively 5000 vs 3750
 
simkon said:
For Canfield, the visitors side seats exactly 2000. The permanent seating in the endzone is 300. The home side seated 1,350 originally, they recently added 400 seats for students, bringing the total capacity to 4,050.
So technically Hubbard would be 5250 vs Canfield's 4050
or alternatively 5000 vs 3750
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I'm somewhat surprised, I didn't think anybody counted their band shell as part of their seating capacity for their stadium.

I guess I learned something today.
 
Struthersfan said:
Here are some photos I took when it looked like the stadium was close to finished. The home stands are immense. However, the visitor side does look smaller than Liberty's. The numbers at SR do look a bit inflated, especially considering the size of the visitor stands. (JMO)
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Can attest South Range visitors side is not real big. Mogadore played New Middletown Springfield there and we completely filled the visitors side, standing and band in folding chairs in end zone..
 
HubCapper said:
Yeah I agree. Didn't he have a full ride at Fordham first before coming to YSU? The Ice Castle was a big part of him staying home as I remember.

Fordham
Youngstown State
Bentley

Good luck to the young man at Bentley.
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Just looked it up, Bentley is ranked #4 in the nation in business degrees. I can see why he chose this school.

As far as the stadium where he'll play:
Hubbard Memorial Stadium 5000
D2 Bentley 4800
 
HubCapper said:
Just looked it up, Bentley is ranked #4 in the nation in business degrees. I can see why he chose this school.

As far as the stadium where he'll play:
Hubbard Memorial Stadium 5000
D2 Bentley 4800
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YSU is not a normal 1A school, their stadium is bigger then most but hope the best for the kid seems he’s starting to care more about after football which is a good thing
 
Buckeye Elite said:
YSU is not a normal 1A school, their stadium is bigger then most
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You mean I -AA or FCS
And Stambaugh Stadium is 1 of 25 for I-AA stadiums that seat over 20,000 fans. Most of the largest stadiums in I-AA are Ivy League schools which were formerly I-A, in fact they all are in the top 25.
 
Most of the Ivy teams have very weak schedules. Years ago Strollo called every one of them and they wouldn't even return his calls, not one of them. They wouldn't last past the first round in the playoffs.
 
simkon said:
You mean I -AA or FCS
And Stambaugh Stadium is 1 of 25 for I-AA stadiums that seat over 20,000 fans. Most of the largest stadiums in I-AA are Ivy League schools which were formerly I-A, in fact they all are in the top 25.
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The Ivy does have nice stadiums but extremely weak schedules.
 
That’s not true about the Ivy’s, they attract talent above their means due to the academic standing. Just gotta look at FCS playoff teams like Holy Cross and Sacred heart who got pummeled by Ivy teams in the regular season. And just one ranking system, but the Massey FCS ratings had 3 Ivy’s in the top 25 for FCS. They wouldn’t win championships but they wouldn’t get embarrassed
 
kingpin2010 said:
That’s not true about the Ivy’s, they attract talent above their means due to the academic standing. Just gotta look at FCS playoff teams like Holy Cross and Sacred heart who got pummeled by Ivy teams in the regular season. And just one ranking system, but the Massey FCS ratings had 3 Ivy’s in the top 25 for FCS. They wouldn’t win championships but they wouldn’t get embarrassed
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If they're as talented as you have stated you would imagine at least one of them would want to schedule a Missouri Valley team. I would love to see a 2 year deal home/away with any of them against YSU but that will never happen, they would rather schedule Lafayette.
 
HubCapper said:
If they're as talented as you have stated you would imagine at least one of them would want to schedule a Missouri Valley team. I would love to see a 2 year deal home/away with any of them against YSU but that will never happen, they would rather schedule Lafayette.
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That is cause they only play 10 games and 7 of them are conference games. So for the other 3 games they typically fill them with local rivals that they have always played (Harvard always plays Holy Cross, Cornell always plays Colgate). Also, there is more that goes into it than just wanting to play Missouri Valley teams, it's more of an institutional status thing. I would have to say that the Harvard administration thinks it is below them to play Youngstown State.
 
OhioGuy4 said:
So for the other 3 games they typically fill them with local rivals that they have always played . Also, there is more that goes into it than just wanting to play Missouri Valley teams, it's more of an institutional status thing.
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Valparaiso @ Dartmouth 9/17/22
Valparaiso is in Indiana
 
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