Hoban '23

St Eds is REALLY good this year. Not sure if anyone in Ohio will beat them. They will come way back to earth after they graduate this class though.
Both Hoban and Massillon will have to throw the ball very effectively to beat Eds. Then, that will open up their run games. Both Hoban and Massillon have multiple skill guys that are really fast, and explosive. I'm going to Massillon vs Eds and Hoban vs Eds. so we will see how it all plays out.
 
St Eds is REALLY good this year. Not sure if anyone in Ohio will beat them. They will come way back to earth after they graduate this class though.
St Ed's only weaknesses appear to be in their offensive skill positions. I don't see a difference maker in any of those spots. Solid players, yes. Difference makers, nope. If they lose a game it will be because of lack of big plays on O.
 
St Ed's only weaknesses appear to be in their offensive skill positions. I don't see a difference maker in any of those spots. Solid players, yes. Difference makers, nope. If they lose a game it will be because of lack of big plays on O.
Nobody in Ohio has the personnel to take advantage of that. Maybe the best team in Florida or Georgia could though. We will never see those games though unfortunately.
 
Nobody in Ohio has the personnel to take advantage of that. Maybe the best team in Florida or Georgia could though. We will never see those games though unfortunately.
Hoban might, their secondary is really fast and can cover. The problem with Hoban is can they stop Eds quarterback. They couldn't last year. He beat them running more than he did passing.
 
Hoban might, their secondary is really fast and can cover. The problem with Hoban is can they stop Eds quarterback. They couldn't last year. He beat them running more than he did passing.
Maybe. But I think that Ed's will even wear Hoban down. You are right about Ed's qb. He is a chain mover with his legs. Not a breakaway threat but can and will pick up 5 to 7 yards. And he isn't afraid to get the tough yards either.

I'm hoping to get to see that one. Wish it were at Infocision or HOF Stadium. Any chance it gets moved to one of those? Seems like there will be $ to be made.
 
Maybe. But I think that Ed's will even wear Hoban down. You are right about Ed's qb. He is a chain mover with his legs. Not a breakaway threat but can and will pick up 5 to 7 yards. And he isn't afraid to get the tough yards either.

I'm hoping to get to see that one. Wish it were at Infocision or HOF Stadium. Any chance it gets moved to one of those? Seems like there will be $ to be made.
It would likely outdraw any Zips game at Infocision!
 
Both Hoban and Massillon will have to throw the ball very effectively to beat Eds. Then, that will open up their run games. Both Hoban and Massillon have multiple skill guys that are really fast, and explosive. I'm going to Massillon vs Eds and Hoban vs Eds. so we will see how it all plays out.

Yep and Hoban v Glenville should be a treat also. Thinking about it. Avon is looking very tuff this year but they don't have anyone left. 10-0 is a lock.
 
Maybe. But I think that Ed's will even wear Hoban down. You are right about Ed's qb. He is a chain mover with his legs. Not a breakaway threat but can and will pick up 5 to 7 yards. And he isn't afraid to get the tough yards either.

I'm hoping to get to see that one. Wish it were at Infocision or HOF Stadium. Any chance it gets moved to one of those? Seems like there will be $ to be made.
I agree, and Hoban's quarterback has to play really well also or they pretty much don't have a shot. Last year watching the game Hoban's quarterback had receivers open but couldn't connect and turned the ball over a couple of times. Sperling did all he could rushing for over 120 yards but Eds kept him from breaking off long big runs.
 
Yep and Hoban v Glenville should be a treat also. Thinking about it. Avon is looking very tuff this year but they don't have anyone left. 10-0 is a lock.
Avon has Olmsted Falls and Avon Lake left. Two formidable programs, though not elite programs. Olmsted Falls is a very underrated program. They’ve had some really good playoff wins over the years, but much like Hoban has done to Avon, they keep getting knocked out by Avon. If they could solve the Avon issue people would see Falls in a much more favorable light, because you don’t get out of a game with them without getting hit hard.
 
‘25 LB Eli Lee committed to OSU yesterday.
In the last month he’s climbed to #15 from #33 in the state for the Class of ‘25 according to 247sports.

Congrats to Eli and his family.
 
‘25 LB Eli Lee committed to OSU yesterday.
In the last month he’s climbed to #15 from #33 in the state for the Class of ‘25 according to 247sports.

Congrats to Eli and his family.
Hoban has the talent to win d2 no doubt. It just seems to me the last few years even one of the seasons they won the state championship they often played very sloppy having a lot of penalties in games. Not always but many times they were so talented they could overcome it. Very undisciplined. For example, I go to a lot of their games and every game for the last 5 years and more than once a game they jump offsides and give teams first downs on third and fourth down. This happened when they were up 7 to 0 on St Ed Friday and it allowed Eds instead of having to punt it gave them a 1st down and they tied the game a few plays later. Also the head coach has misused his timeouts and passed up extra point field goals instead of taking points. He has had very good kickers. This happened right before half again against St Eds the other night. It prevented them from leading at halftime.
 
Hoban has the talent to win d2 no doubt. It just seems to me the last few years even one of the seasons they won the state championship they often played very sloppy having a lot of penalties in games. Not always but many times they were so talented they could overcome it. Very undisciplined. For example, I go to a lot of their games and every game for the last 5 years and more than once a game they jump offsides and give teams first downs on third and fourth down. This happened when they were up 7 to 0 on St Ed Friday and it allowed Eds instead of having to punt it gave them a 1st down and they tied the game a few plays later. Also the head coach has misused his timeouts and passed up extra point field goals instead of taking points. He has had very good kickers. This happened right before half again against St Eds the other night. It prevented them from leading at halftime.

I hate to agree with you here, but I must. Whenever Hoban faces an opponent with similar athleticism, size, and talent, I think they get outcoached more often than not. I can't recall the last time they were faced with a situation like that and schemed, motivated, and strategized their way to a win. Fortunately, the program has been built up so well over the past 10 years that they don't often have that problem....at least not until the final four or state title game.

I think the HC often misuses TO's and mismanages the clock and game in tight contests. We saw it again at the end of the 1st half against St. Ed's.

They also struggle with play-calling and imagination when they can't just bully the opponent up front with the running game. If the run isn't working, you get what you saw on Friday night with the offense generating a big goose-egg on the scoreboard. I hope some of the injured linemen are back soon. Hoban has such depth on the offensive line that I'd be tempted to play 6 offensive linemen a lot of the time in the postseason and make them stop that. Do we know if Sam Greer and others who've been out are back yet?

I'm very afraid of both the Avon and Massillon games if the Knights get that far....both those teams seem to have the depth, talent, speed, and size-strength combos to hang with the Knights this year. Hopefully our coaches are up to the task.
 
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Yea they always jumped off sides. Watched it happen in 2015 in their first championship and drove me nuts. But defensively I don't think there is a better coach then Parnell. His adjustments as the game goes on have always impressed me. Offensively Hoban lacks a QB and has since Hamm left. Yea the current QB can run but not decisive and receivers are average from what I have seen. I think TT is a good coach and has put together a great program. You can say he has all the talent but then you are saying the other teams don't have any talent which isn't true. I will go back to the strength program and say they Hoban's is unmatched there and that has been the difference. These kids didn't show up looking like they do in year 3 and 4. They are developed big time. Coaching isn't always about X's and O's, that's why you have a staff. Say what you want but no one else recently has won 5 rings in any division. That puts TT at the top in my books. Oh and I would say he has more kids playing college ball at multiple levels for free than 99% of his peers.
 
I just looove playoff time.
It is this time of year when we all get to see just how good of a recruiting year some schools had.
 
Yea they always jumped off sides. Watched it happen in 2015 in their first championship and drove me nuts. But defensively I don't think there is a better coach then Parnell. His adjustments as the game goes on have always impressed me. Offensively Hoban lacks a QB and has since Hamm left. Yea the current QB can run but not decisive and receivers are average from what I have seen. I think TT is a good coach and has put together a great program. You can say he has all the talent but then you are saying the other teams don't have any talent which isn't true. I will go back to the strength program and say they Hoban's is unmatched there and that has been the difference. These kids didn't show up looking like they do in year 3 and 4. They are developed big time. Coaching isn't always about X's and O's, that's why you have a staff. Say what you want but no one else recently has won 5 rings in any division. That puts TT at the top in my books. Oh and I would say he has more kids playing college ball at multiple levels for free than 99% of his peers.
I have heard Pappas being praised as one of the better DC’s too. How would you compare him to Parnell from games you have watched? I don’t get to see many of them now that Ed’s has the pay to watch.
 
I have heard Pappas being praised as one of the better DC’s too. How would you compare him to Parnell from games you have watched? I don’t get to see many of them now that Ed’s has the pay to watch.

if he is from Ed's? If so He's pretty darn good too.
 
I have heard Pappas being praised as one of the better DC’s too. How would you compare him to Parnell from games you have watched? I don’t get to see many of them now that Ed’s has the pay to watch.
I agree with most of what you say. Also, I was not implying that the games they have lost the opponents were not better than Hoban many times the other teams were better. Last year TCC and Eds were better than Hoban. A few losses to Eds and Iggy the past 6 to 8 years they were better than Hoban. We shall see how it plays out. I think Hobans receivers are very good. They seem to get open regularly. The quarterback I think is still developing.
 
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