Seems like from sources allegedly Marquis Davis has signed his NIL contract with the university of Kentucky so he still on the team only doing punting chores, but they are rumors that he might be leaving school at least by January to enroll at Kentucky. I’m happy for him so now not having Marquis Davis and Brandon Caesar, the senior defensive in who has been injured While on the wrestling team is a step back a little bit but the tiger still have enough talent to do better than what they’re doing now I mean, Elijah Harris running back is doing exactly what Marquis Davis was doing he’s a running back defensive back on defense also but so far the freshman is phenomenal and its up for the other players to step up.
Greater Cleveland Conference 2024
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cardzfan1234
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I know it feels like I'm beating a dead horse, but here is the state of the 2024 GCC:
- Every team but Mentor has a losing record
- Medina has four losses in five games after four total regular season losses from 2021-2023
- Brunswick, Strongsville, and Medina are a combined 4-11 despite their many advantages in their communities
- Euclid is a small step better than the previous couple of seasons, but still light years away from the Rotsky era
- Shaker, coming off a winning record in 2024, is on their way to a probable 2-8 season
- Cleveland Heights, albeit through limited play of their star player, has gotten off to a very slow start
- The league went 2-8 against the SWC and Suburban...and none of those games were against Avon
- Lorain, entering Week 5 undefeated and on their way to the league in 2025, lost to a DII team (South) that likely won't even make the playoffs
- Every team but Mentor has a losing record
- Medina has four losses in five games after four total regular season losses from 2021-2023
- Brunswick, Strongsville, and Medina are a combined 4-11 despite their many advantages in their communities
- Euclid is a small step better than the previous couple of seasons, but still light years away from the Rotsky era
- Shaker, coming off a winning record in 2024, is on their way to a probable 2-8 season
- Cleveland Heights, albeit through limited play of their star player, has gotten off to a very slow start
- The league went 2-8 against the SWC and Suburban...and none of those games were against Avon
- Lorain, entering Week 5 undefeated and on their way to the league in 2025, lost to a DII team (South) that likely won't even make the playoffs
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No doubt the league is in rough shape football wise and will probably be for at least the next couple of years. I suppose you can always count on mentor being good but what’s the point if they’re simply going to run away with the league title every year? I didn’t expect Brunswick to do much of anything this year but I can at least say I’m encouraged by recent results (giving Cleveland heights a game [in spite of their issues I still figured the tigers would run away with it], and the surprising upset of Medina last week). Fingers crossed that they finally made the right long term coaching hire bringing in Carter so hopefully they’ll be relevant in the league again in a few years. In the meantime the reality is the GCC is simply no longer a football conference by any stretch. I know many who simply blame the private schools on brunswicks struggles over the better part of the last decade which I think is glossing over the fact that the cleveland privates were still taking players when Nowak was coaching and Brunswick was still a regional power more years than not; there’s really no excuse for the program being in shambles other than compounding years of making the wrong hire at head coach
bwickbluedevils
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1. Highland and Wadsworth are undefeated out of Suburban League
2. Olmsted Falls is 4-1 and Avon Lake is 3-2 out of SWC
3. According to fantastic 50 strength of schedule: Brunswick is ranked 34 out of 71 in D1, Medina is 42/71, Strongsville is 58/71 and now let's compare the rest of the GCC (Cleveland Heights is 48/71, Lorain is 71/71, Mentor is 59/71, Euclid is 24/104 in D2 and Shaker Heights is 36/104 in D2)
4. Medina's quarterback Diiulio is no Allar or Stoddard. I feel QB play in general in the GCC is down from previous years
5. Why don't you push for Mentor to be independent like Massillon and then you can finally stop scheduling Brunswick and Strongsville.
MentorGrad2002
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The GCC is for all sports. It's good for all involved
Dont get pissy because he's pointing out facts. Brunswick and Strongsville need to improve in football. They are vastly underachieving in the sport. If you can't handle that honest talk, then tough
bwickbluedevils
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I was just throwing some facts out there, too and gave one opinion because I'm tired of hearing this Mentor rhetoric. Yes, I know Brunswick and Strongsville have not been juggernauts lately but, when was last time either school has had a quarterback or player you needed to worry about?
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
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Mentor wins a weak league at that’s about all they’ll do.
cardzfan1234
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10-0
#1 AP poll
Maybe as many as three playoff wins
I would say that’s more than “just” wins in a weak league. I can’t imagine anything more ironic than a Glenville fan calling out a weak league though.
MentorGrad2002
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Beat Glenville badly the last 2 times the schools played and then Glenville wouldn't renew for more years
Might want to pipe down here mouth breather
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
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Imagine it. Our league is weak, very very weak and I really don’t like. We tried to get out of it CMSD wouldn’t allow it but let us drop two league games. That said, no one schedules tougher than us in the non-conf.
MentorGrad2002
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Right. The Senate League. Lol
MentorGrad2002
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What is the rhetoric? Talking about things factually ? Them not having players is part of the problem. Player development has been bad
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
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This is a fact. Do you think Glenville would renew now? Yes, yes we would but you guys wouldn’t play our JV last year and 2022
We have to round robin with Ed’s and Massillon JV. Good luck in R1.Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
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It stinks.Right. The Senate League. Lol
MentorGrad2002
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Who knows? You are talking about hypotheticals. I'm talking about actual facts. Glenville tucked and ran after getting crushed two years in a row. So I don't want to hear smack talk from a moron like you about avoiding them. It was the other way aroundThis is a fact. Do you think Glenville would renew now? Yes, yes we would but you guys wouldn’t play our JV last year and 2022
Now go back to the D4 threads and talk to the small publics who you guys have to beat to win your titles now.
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
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there’s a really good chance Perkins would beat Mentor but they recruit like no one’s business. “Moron”
well this moron is doing just fine in the WOM. Maybe I’ll see you at Mentor. Let’s talk recent events, Mentor ducked lower level games against us. And the funny thing is you clowns did it before our ballyhooed freshman class arrived Good luck in the oh so tough GCC. I’d take against Hay against Strongsville.
MentorGrad2002
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You are an insecure little man. Always starting stuff and expecting people just to take your bs that you spew. Not going to fly here.there’s a really good chance Perkins would beat Mentor but they recruit like no one’s business. “Moron”
I don't care about lower level games. Maybe they don't want to do business with Glenville anymore after you guys bailed on playing at the varsity level. Nobody ducks lower level games that make zero money and don't matter. Get a clue
The only clown here is you. A dope that is so insecure that he needs to go around starting stuff about schools that have nothing to do with your D4 joke of an education institution that recruits from all over Cleveland to beat small closed enrollment public schools. GTFO
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
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Yes. That’s what it is “starting stuff”. Ducking is the wrong word possibly, Mentor declined to play our Fr. and JV. I will GTFO.
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
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And no, we all live on St. Clair. I’m just familiar with the WOM because I have a buddy that’s lives in that development
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad
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Mentor won’t “do business” but Ed’s, Avon, Hoban, UA, Liberty, and next season Massillon will. It’s fine. And of course the D1 programs that find their way to our amazing campus will. Good luck Mentor Grad and I hope your Cards make some postseason noise.
MentorGrad2002
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Again. Don't start stuff if you want real conversations. You came in here to flame and start stuff. So I'm going to come back at you
I don't care about Glenville at all. Mentor has beaten them in every playoff game. Beat them so bad they ran away from extending the series the last times around too. You are D4 and I don't care to follow it.
You are coming into our conference thread to start arguments. That's the difference . It's insecurity and it shows clearly
You've said you are leaving many times now. Just leave
UnDone
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Why doesn’t Glenville just go independent? I’ve always wondered that?
Additionally the GCC is down in football right now , it happens to leagues, but isn’t a historically bad league , and certainly isn’t bad in other sports.
I mean you had the season open up with Medina and Heights ahead of Mentor in a lot of the R1 polls and Shaker was getting some love as well. Three of those teams have not lived up to the pre season hype , but to ignore the fact that the league is down AND Mentor is up is a little disingenuous.
Both can be true.
bwickbluedevils
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The rhetoric I'm talking about is how everyone is scared to schedule Mentor. You went on about it with Solon and now Glenville. We could look at Mentor and say you were scared to keep the good catholic school on your schedule.
I guess stating that 3 of those 8 losses to the Suburban and SWC came to 3 really good teams in Highland (5-0), Olmsted Falls (4-1) and Wadsworth (5-0) or that Brunswick and Strongsville are scheduling tougher opponents than Lorain or maybe I should rant on how Brecksville or NoRo are scared to schedule us.
There is only so much player development you can do. If you don't have a decent Qb coming up the ranks what are you supposed do? For example look at Medina this year. I would say Fritz was the last decent Qb Brunswick has had and his development got messed up because of Covid. Also before him you would have to go back to Ficyk in 2014 or Bedevelsky in 2007
MentorGrad2002
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I don't think a Brunswick fan should be lecturing us on who to schedule. You guys would have a lot of catching up to do . Why would you even bring up any Catholic schools. When do you schedule them ?
UnDone
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The good Catholic school?
Ed’s dropped us to play more out of state games and how would Mentor know Iggy was going to struggle like this?
Arcy26
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Heights might be the biggest disappointment in the area. I seriously am confused by some of their recent performances
UnDone
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I am so confused. They get shelled by Hudson and almost lose to Brunswick, so no Davis for those I get it.
Davis 100% healthy and they Give Mentor a solid game with Davis going off ..
The next week they collapse against Strongsville with Davis playing ?
SVillegrad
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Styles make fights.
Strongsville has been playing pretty good football (the 21-17 loss to Benedictine looks better after Benedictine hung with a really good Walsh team tonight).
On top of that, Strongsville's defense has been good against the run all year, which is all Heights can do. Offensively, Strongsville has no issues grinding out 3-4 yards a play running the ball and taking a couple deep shots here or there.
At this point, you have to say Strongsville is looking like the no. 2 team in the league. It will be interesting to see how they fare against Medina next week because it appears that Medina has ditched the 5 wide, throw every down to a spread that resembles more what Mentor does. If, and still a big if, they can handle Medina, I'll give them a fighting chance against Mentor.
SVillegrad
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I think people wanted to bury Strongsville and Brunswick too soon. Both programs were young last year and had talent returning. Both also have new coaches, so gotta give them more than 3 weeks before drawing conclusions.
Medina has been disappointing, but that's only because it was so obvious that if they didn't get good QB play, the offense (10 new starters) was going to struggle. The defense, though, has been the biggest letdown for Medina.
But the biggest letdown in the GCC isn't any of the westside teams, it's Cleveland Heights and Shaker Heights. There is no silver linings from either. At least Euclid also has the new coach factor and has won as many games this year as they had the previous 2-3 years combined.