irish_buffalo
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This is actually funny bigkat. Congrats!Bidens adminstration is working on banning ALL 12 ounce cups in the region..... and just allowing 6 ounce cups.....
This is actually funny bigkat. Congrats!Bidens adminstration is working on banning ALL 12 ounce cups in the region..... and just allowing 6 ounce cups.....
Without knowing too much I'd say it has to do with need and motivation. Israel cannot rely on anywhere else for water. They had their backs to the wall sooner. Keep in mind no one wants to pay for anything these days so politicos have always depended on "trusty Rusty" even if Rusty is no longer so trusty. To said's post I'd say we will see these all up and down the W. Coast soon.You can beech about a problem and blame. How about coming up with solutions. Why the hell are these plants not up and down the pacific coast?
Heck no to a tunnel. Leave Midwestern water in the Midwest. God intended people to be smart enough to live where the water is. Southwesterners would only use more water to expand and would be facing new shortages in short order.
Heck no to a tunnel. Leave Midwestern water in the Midwest. God intended people to be smart enough to live where the water is. Southwesterners would only use more water to expand and would be facing new shortages in short order.
Or where there is too much.Fresh water isn't an infinite resource. Sending a bunch of it to the desert is completely moronic
People need to stop moving to places where there isn't enough water
just something a democrat would do...This is actually funny bigkat. Congrats!
Israel has no choice, we do.How many do you think needed to mine the mines? Yours is not the issue. And WE don't depopulate anything. I understand, that's the country you want, United Stateistan. Others have better solutions.
How Israel...
It's not just about desalination or migrating people out.. Leaving large tracts of mineral laced land open on our southern border is beyond foolish. They can self-sustain. They do not have a right or a need for Great Lakes water, that is the easy solution they are looking for instead of the one that requires their effort.
It makes even more sense to collect that water in large retention areas for use later in the year when we experience low rainfall. I am amazed at how many ponds cover our Midwestern farming region. There must be thousands of these water collection systems providing water to farmers & homeowners.It would make sense to divert water from the annual floods in the midwest to the arid areas of the west. You only ship when it floods. If that is not financially feasible or it is more expensive than desalination, then no.
Israel has no choice, we do.
No one is forcing any of these people to do anything. If they want to live where there isn't any water go for it. But they also need to know that the country isn't going to fix their lack of water problem. Consider this like how we're dealing with people who live in flood prone zones. They can stay but we're not paying to rebuild their homes and replace their belongings after the next flood.Did you switch sides of the aisle over the weekend or fall off the right edge?
We don't have the choice to force massive numbers of people to move as you proposed. It's not a "we" choice. It's an individual choice.
Water getting diverted is not new. Massive amounts get pumped over a pass as high as I mentioned would have to happen in Montana. This is not new tech. Whether GL water gets diverted to the SW or not is an economic trade-off. The majority of people are not there because of golf courses. They are there because of industry that moves the country. If that industry is geographically specific and cannot be maintained because of lack of water or people, someone will fix that.
Diverting straight from the GL would meet all the legal opposition already mentioned. But no one is closing the outlets at the Chicago River (yet) or the St. Lawrence. Siphoning that same water from the Mississippi would have little opposition. That water is already headed to where it would be doing no economic good AND it's closer. Mehico might complain if we connected a pipe from the lower Mississippi and reversed the Rio Grande, or they might not. They would benefit also.
Well actually unfortunately, we will and are but back to topic.No one is forcing any of these people to do anything. If they want to live where there isn't any water go for it. But they also need to know that the country isn't going to fix their lack of water problem. Consider this like how we're dealing with people who live in flood prone zones. They can stay but we're not paying to rebuild their homes and replace their belongings after the next flood.
SW USA can have all the Grand Lake St. Marys water they want.
Lake Michigan alone could provide that for about 6 million days, presuming no recycling or reuse of any type. Water kind of is an infinite resource.
I'm thinking about putting one of those cement ponds in my back yard.......It makes even more sense to collect that water in large retention areas for use later in the year when we experience low rainfall. I am amazed at how many ponds cover our Midwestern farming region. There must be thousands of these water collection systems providing water to farmers & homeowners.
Evaporation, along with long periods with no rain make retention areas tough. Underground storage is best for those areas. Look up how much a single almond tree needs for water. Government controls the water and the blame game starts. 2 or 3 years ago all of California reservoirs were at full capacity.It makes even more sense to collect that water in large retention areas for use later in the year when we experience low rainfall. I am amazed at how many ponds cover our Midwestern farming region. There must be thousands of these water collection systems providing water to farmers & homeowners.
And not our problem.Too many people, too little water.
I guess there really shouldn’t be farmlands or cattle ranches in the northern part of Arizona anymore.The water in needed most in the farmlands and cattle ranches in the northern part of Arizona. I agree that a pipeline would be the better solution. I also realized that the pipeline would have to start in Lake Michigan, as all the other lakes have a border with Canada.
Especially when people want to keep growing things in places where such things were never intended to grow.Desaline ocean water should be seriously studied. With ocean levels raising it would help work on two problems at the same time.
Agree for water storage in warm, arid & high sunlight regions like Southern California. But in the Midwest, ponds are a great way to store water. The evaporation rate is a lot less. My pond typically sees only a 2 foot drop from the spring to early fall. The golf course near my land has several retention ponds that they use to water over the summer and fall.Evaporation, along with long periods with no rain make retention areas tough. Underground storage is best for those areas. Look up how much a single almond tree needs for water. Government controls the water and the blame game starts. 2 or 3 years ago all of California reservoirs were at full capacity.
We should return the Chicago River to it original state. Keep those jumping carp awayYep, I was refering to the rise though N. Dakota. I meant "another"
"until you hit Montana. The up to about a 1000"
Pumps all the way until a tunnel on the western edge of Montana, where elevation jumps quickly. The Marias Pass is the lowest through the divide, at least in the States. That would be the tunnel under, it's still at 5000. From there to the Kootenai I don't know about Alberta.
I'm not proposing it. Just playing with the idea. Mississippi would still seem the better path to get Great Lakes water to the west, via the reversed Chicago River.
I have land in Clermont county with a pond. When you look at the county with Google Earth the thing that impresses is just how many ponds there are. Farmers are using the water for all sorts of stuff. It's an incredible resource.I'm thinking about putting one of those cement ponds in my back yard.......