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Cleveland, Baltimore, Pittsburgh have the 3 most difficult schedules for 2024. Cincinnati’s schedule ranks 16th.
 
Last weekend I was over a friend’s house and he was watching a UFL game … they showed the coach on the walkie talkie tell the QB the play … his wife then asked why don’t they just have radio in all the players helmets … and said wouldn’t that be better … we tried to answer her … but after thinking about it agreed that it would be better … it would eliminate the need to the huddle … everyone would be on the same page … you could run plays faster … the only problem we could think of was substitutions … then we thought you could do hockey like substitutions … where players could be running off the field as the play was going on … and as long as they did not effect the play .. no penalty

So what do you think?
 
You are probably 1000% correct. If Cowher didn't coach the Steelers, he'd probably be done. Most people under 40 may not even realize Simms and Esiason played football. I grew up in the 70's/ 80's. Irv Cross was that guy for me. I never saw Irv Cross play football, didn't know much about him.
To your point, do people even watch the pregame shows anymore? My thought is the younger crowd doesn't watch those shows, they follow games on their phones and stat trackers.
Any shot CBS adds a female to the group?
If you remember Irv Cross, you also know CBS was the first pregame NFL show to have a female host…Phyllis George and later they went with Jayne Kennedy. Brent Musberger and Jimmy the Greek rounded out the crew. I would get all stirred up when the show came on and Brent would start with his signature, “You are looking live…”
A bonus here, as Pete Rose fills in for Jimmy the Greek for the odds/picks segment. Are you kidding me, Pete?
 
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It’s Pride Month. Whatever your thoughts on the subject a few teams chose not to cooperate. Will this recognition soon go the way of BLM in the end zone?



Over the weekend, 11 NFL teams chose not to tweet or acknowledge pride month. The 11 teams are:

The Pittsburgh Steelers, Cleveland Browns, Cincinnati Bengals, Tennessee Titans, Kansas City Chiefs, Denver Broncos, Dallas Cowboys, Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, New Orleans Saints, and Atlanta Falcons.
 
It’s Pride Month. Whatever your thoughts on the subject a few teams chose not to cooperate. Will this recognition soon go the way of BLM in the end zone?



Over the weekend, 11 NFL teams chose not to tweet or acknowledge pride month. The 11 teams are:

The Pittsburgh Steelers, Cleveland Browns, Cincinnati Bengals, Tennessee Titans, Kansas City Chiefs, Denver Broncos, Dallas Cowboys, Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, New Orleans Saints, and Atlanta Falcons.
Could it be that they have no "pride " on the team or front office?
 
It’s Pride Month. Whatever your thoughts on the subject a few teams chose not to cooperate. Will this recognition soon go the way of BLM in the end zone?



Over the weekend, 11 NFL teams chose not to tweet or acknowledge pride month. The 11 teams are:

The Pittsburgh Steelers, Cleveland Browns, Cincinnati Bengals, Tennessee Titans, Kansas City Chiefs, Denver Broncos, Dallas Cowboys, Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, New Orleans Saints, and Atlanta Falcons.

With the exception of Dallas & Atlanta, those teams not acknowledging or participating in Pride Month do not surprise me at all. They are mostly Midwest, conservative communities that I would guess do not have a prevalent gay community or gay team following. It would make logical business sense for the two LA teams, the two NY teams and SF to participate.
 
How weak does Tua Tagovailoa look coming out and complaining about former Dolphins coach Brian Flores??? Good gosh, a coach being tough on a player? Who would have thunk it?
 
How weak does Tua Tagovailoa look coming out and complaining about former Dolphins coach Brian Flores??? Good gosh, a coach being tough on a player? Who would have thunk it?
As a Fins Fan, it was a cringe for me. I hate it when players come out against former coaches and/or teammates. This reminds me of the of this

Was it weak? Kind of but considering Tua's career path, that was probably nothing he had dealt with in the past. Then again, Flores never denied it and made comments of trying to be a better coach. I am convincing myself Tua's is statement is more of a complement to McDaniel than shade to Flores...Ugh. Maybe the two can get together and move on.
 
As a Fins Fan, it was a cringe for me. I hate it when players come out against former coaches and/or teammates. This reminds me of the of this

Was it weak? Kind of but considering Tua's career path, that was probably nothing he had dealt with in the past. Then again, Flores never denied it and made comments of trying to be a better coach. I am convincing myself Tua's is statement is more of a complement to McDaniel than shade to Flores...Ugh. Maybe the two can get together and move on.
That clip is hilarious! It's one of Hank's best performances, and he's had a bunch of them. If you recall, later in the movie, he has to talk to the same player and he about gives himself a coronary trying not to yell.

Of course Flores didn't deny it because it's true. I don't think for a moment that Flores wanted Tua at QB so he was trying to get him out of there. However in today's sports world the star player trumps the coach and you see what happened. Now are the Dolphins better for it? Questionable. I don't think Tua is the guy and will ever be the guy. He's marginal QB at best. Meanwhile, Flores is a DC I believe and is probably better suited for that. The tug of war with organizations who hire head coaches who are either offensive or defensive oriented is interesting.
 
That clip is hilarious! It's one of Hank's best performances, and he's had a bunch of them. If you recall, later in the movie, he has to talk to the same player and he about gives himself a coronary trying not to yell.

Of course Flores didn't deny it because it's true. I don't think for a moment that Flores wanted Tua at QB so he was trying to get him out of there. However in today's sports world the star player trumps the coach and you see what happened. Now are the Dolphins better for it? Questionable. I don't think Tua is the guy and will ever be the guy. He's marginal QB at best. Meanwhile, Flores is a DC I believe and is probably better suited for that. The tug of war with organizations who hire head coaches who are either offensive or defensive oriented is interesting.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: love it. League of their own is one of my all-time favorites and yes....you are correct with the future interaction.

I will say this is probably the best posting thread I have been on...though my first post on the NFL thread. I am sure I will not ruffle feathers as I do on other topics and threads. lol

The days of Lombardi, Noll, Stram, Shula, Landry, etc. are over. I even wonder how players today would respond to John McKay...the Yogi of the NFL, lol. Those were some tuff nuts and I will say the players were too. Today's players are so physically fit and conditioned to the game as we see but are very mentally fragile. I guess that is why teams employ sports psychologists. I see where Tua is coming from but the manner in which he did it is a cringe for me. Flores, wants to be the tough, results, coach and that is why he is a DC. He is a good coach and I get it with him and Tua but money talks and that is why he is gone.

McDaniel seems to be a "modern day cowboy" and has the ability to relate to players. He is one tough nut as well but his mental coaching may be as equal to his physical coaching. He may not do it with the Fins but that cat will win a SB and I will be rooting him on all the way.
 
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: love it. League of their own is one of my all-time favorites and yes....you are correct with the future interaction.

I will say this is probably the best posting thread I have been on...though my first post on the NFL thread. I am sure I will not ruffle feathers as I do on other topics and threads. lol

The days of Lombardi, Noll, Stram, Shula, Landry, etc. are over. I even wonder how players today would respond to John McKay...the Yogi of the NFL, lol. Those were some tuff nuts and I will say the players were too. Today's players are so physically fit and conditioned to the game as we see but are very mentally fragile. I guess that is why teams employ sports psychologists. I see where Tua is coming from but the manner in which he did it is a cringe for me. Flores, wants to be the tough, results, coach and that is why he is a DC. He is a good coach and I get it with him and Tua but money talks and that is why he is gone.

McDaniel seems to be a "modern day cowboy" and has the ability to relate to players. He is one tough nut as well but his mental coaching may be as equal to his physical coaching. He may not do it with the Fins but that cat will win a SB and I will be rooting him on all the way.
We've not seen McDaniel in a "tough" situation. He's had it pretty good so far, he's the ultimate "players" coach. This means they coddle players and don't hold players accountable. Let's see the Dolphins lose some games and the tide will turn against him quickly.
Garbage in, garbage out. You treat players like little kids and they never grow up Watch the LL World series now and see how these coaches talk to the kids. It's like a game at recess. Athletes want and need to be coached hard, it makes you not only tough physically, but tough mentally. We have alot of weak minded athletes today. Kevin Garnett for example. He's only one titles with other super teams, never can lead one on his own. He's to concerned with what others think of him. Great talent, but soft mind.
 
We've not seen McDaniel in a "tough" situation. He's had it pretty good so far, he's the ultimate "players" coach. This means they coddle players and don't hold players accountable. Let's see the Dolphins lose some games and the tide will turn against him quickly.
Garbage in, garbage out. You treat players like little kids and they never grow up Watch the LL World series now and see how these coaches talk to the kids. It's like a game at recess. Athletes want and need to be coached hard, it makes you not only tough physically, but tough mentally. We have alot of weak minded athletes today. Kevin Garnett for example. He's only one titles with other super teams, never can lead one on his own. He's to concerned with what others think of him. Great talent, but soft mind.
I think he has been in tough situations. Losing your two DEs, banged up WRs and then going to KC and somewhat making a game of it for a Fins team that has never played well in freezing (artic) weather is good, then in 2022 playing with a backup QB in Jan Buffalo has some adversity. Player accountability...not sure what you mean by this. His players want to play for him and that is a good thing.

In todays world, even HS, kids have a manner in which to be coached. Yeah, it is easier to be harder on the fundamentals of the game but really the teams that reach the pinicle are the ones who have coaches that can relate on coach the individual kid.

I can beat a coon dog all day to not run rabbits but until I learn what the dog needs to succeed and how to flush the pheasants, all I will get is a dog sitting in the back of my truck and flushing nothing.

Where are we going with all this?
 
I think he has been in tough situations. Losing your two DEs, banged up WRs and then going to KC and somewhat making a game of it for a Fins team that has never played well in freezing (artic) weather is good, then in 2022 playing with a backup QB in Jan Buffalo has some adversity. Player accountability...not sure what you mean by this. His players want to play for him and that is a good thing.

In todays world, even HS, kids have a manner in which to be coached. Yeah, it is easier to be harder on the fundamentals of the game but really the teams that reach the pinicle are the ones who have coaches that can relate on coach the individual kid.

I can beat a coon dog all day to not run rabbits but until I learn what the dog needs to succeed and how to flush the pheasants, all I will get is a dog sitting in the back of my truck and flushing nothing.

Where are we going with all this?
We're not going anywhere. It's sports today. Players make as much or more than the coaches, front offices are more in tune with the players and if a star player gets sideways with the head coach, guess who gets the boot?
My original point was that it was incredibly weak for Tua to lash out at his former coach? I mean what was his gain at this point? Flores is gone, he got his way, why pile on? I thought it was great that Flores took the high road, the professional road. My guess is Flores is in the NFL longer than Tua will be.
 
Very exciting game and very good defense. Obvious story of the game was the Ravens getting called for illegal formation on the first drive, multiple times. The same officials then did nothing about the quite obvious illegal formation by KC throughout the entire game, including numerous false starts not called. How hard is for both the officials and the professional players? If the rule is you have to break the waist of the center then line up properly and if they are not it's a 5 yard penalty. This was way more on the officials for not even coming close to enforcing the new point of emphasis equally. It's up to the officials to penalize players/teams accordingly, the teams are going to get away with what they are allowed to. I just don't understand how professional officials can be so far off in the same game, depending on who had the ball.

I am way in favor of actually making the O-line line up properly and I can't believe the league could keep a straight face through the years , knowing the offensive tackles were gaining a huge advatange at the snap.
 
When the play was initially ruled a TD, Harbaugh signaled for the Ravens to go for two. No OT, but a single point win for either team. Great game to start off the season.
Went to bed at halftime. Despise both teams but I guess a Ravens loss was the best result for Steeler, Browns and Bengals fans.
 
Very exciting game and very good defense. Obvious story of the game was the Ravens getting called for illegal formation on the first drive, multiple times. The same officials then did nothing about the quite obvious illegal formation by KC throughout the entire game, including numerous false starts not called. How hard is for both the officials and the professional players? If the rule is you have to break the waist of the center then line up properly and if they are not it's a 5 yard penalty. This was way more on the officials for not even coming close to enforcing the new point of emphasis equally. It's up to the officials to penalize players/teams accordingly, the teams are going to get away with what they are allowed to. I just don't understand how professional officials can be so far off in the same game, depending on who had the ball.

I am way in favor of actually making the O-line line up properly and I can't believe the league could keep a straight face through the years , knowing the offensive tackles were gaining a huge advatange at the snap.
Most rules put into place, or overlooked in thsi case, are done so to help the offense but yea...i agree. they need to fixt this and it would be easy to do. Call the penalty. Every time. teams will adjust that very same game, likley by halftime...
 
Went to bed at halftime. Despise both teams but I guess a Ravens loss was the best result for Steeler, Browns and Bengals fans.



As a Bengals fan, I see it both ways, but lean towards ravens losing.

I’d rather face a 1-0 Chiefs team Week 2 than an 0-1 Chiefs team trying to avoid 0-2.
 
As a Bengals fan, I see it both ways, but lean towards ravens losing.

I’d rather face a 1-0 Chiefs team Week 2 than an 0-1 Chiefs team trying to avoid 0-2.
Irrelevant.

A rabirds loss is good for the AFC North teams who have a chance at the div title, Cincy and Cleveturd
 
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