Philly_Cat
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It's more a hiring ability issue, not coaching ability, particularly at public schools
ECC 23-24
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Yes, as well as the ability to be at practice on time immediately after school.
mrorcadood
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Lebanon 61, Turpin 47 - final
Winton Woods 54, Walnut Hills 51 - final
Kings 88, Milford 60 - final
Anderson 61, Little Miami 56 - final
Loveland 71, West Clermont 53 - final
Lebanon 61, Turpin 47 - final
Winton Woods 54, Walnut Hills 51 - final
Kings 88, Milford 60 - final
Anderson 61, Little Miami 56 - final
Loveland 71, West Clermont 53 - final
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mrorcadood
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Ty Austin is doing The Thing again. I like The Thing.
Tsmith7953
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Lebanon 29
Turpin 17
End of 1st half
Turpin 17
End of 1st half
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WALNUTPOSTING: Winton Woods 54, Walnut Hills 51
Well, they played 'em even closer than they did the first time. Winton Woods' 3-point margin of victory was their largest lead of the entire night, as the Eagles seem to be the one team immune to Winton Woods second-half surges. Well, at least for most of it, as Winton Woods ended the game on a 9-0 run.
In the first half, Walnut seemed to be executing both parts of the Beat Winton Woods Formula pretty well - drain a bunch of threes, and force the Winton Woods offense into mistakes and turnovers. Most of Winton Woods' first-half scores came on either fast break points or ridiculous threes from Sean Harmon, who had a much better game than he did in the Nuthouse. In the second half, Winton Woods pivoted to their other main style of offense, aka Get Tyler the Ball in the Post and Let Him Do Stuff, which Walnut held up solid against for the most part, and even coaxed a few turnovers and offensive fouls. We didn't have Najoli for a second straight game, so it was mostly two or three of our 6'3'' guys trying their damndest to get any appendages they could on the ball. We had a 6-point lead with 2 minutes left, but then Harmon hit another ridiculous downtown 3 with almost no separation, and then we turned it over against their press on the next possession, followed by another bucket. The offense went cold, aided by some weirdly physical officiating, and that was all she wrote, as King and Austin couldn't make Harmon-esque threes with a few seconds left.
As for individual performances, Ty Austin continues to be That Dude, and was a big factor in building our first-half lead in the first place. From there, it was pretty much everyone else elevating their own levels of play, with Brock, Javien, King, and Bryce playing somewhat above their pay grade. Piening only played a couple of minutes, making one reverse layup for his first points in two months, but then on the next possession Winton Woods managed to iso TMK on him, and... yeah. TMK finished with 16 points but also 6 turnovers. Harmon 15, Seaonta 12.
Record is down to 4-16. Somehow, as a 16-loss team facing a schedule with two games against Winton Woods and one against Moeller, we have only lost one game by 20+, and it was a 38-point loss to Lebanon in December. Next is Withrow, who I don't know much about but who also have not won very many games.
Well, they played 'em even closer than they did the first time. Winton Woods' 3-point margin of victory was their largest lead of the entire night, as the Eagles seem to be the one team immune to Winton Woods second-half surges. Well, at least for most of it, as Winton Woods ended the game on a 9-0 run.
In the first half, Walnut seemed to be executing both parts of the Beat Winton Woods Formula pretty well - drain a bunch of threes, and force the Winton Woods offense into mistakes and turnovers. Most of Winton Woods' first-half scores came on either fast break points or ridiculous threes from Sean Harmon, who had a much better game than he did in the Nuthouse. In the second half, Winton Woods pivoted to their other main style of offense, aka Get Tyler the Ball in the Post and Let Him Do Stuff, which Walnut held up solid against for the most part, and even coaxed a few turnovers and offensive fouls. We didn't have Najoli for a second straight game, so it was mostly two or three of our 6'3'' guys trying their damndest to get any appendages they could on the ball. We had a 6-point lead with 2 minutes left, but then Harmon hit another ridiculous downtown 3 with almost no separation, and then we turned it over against their press on the next possession, followed by another bucket. The offense went cold, aided by some weirdly physical officiating, and that was all she wrote, as King and Austin couldn't make Harmon-esque threes with a few seconds left.
As for individual performances, Ty Austin continues to be That Dude, and was a big factor in building our first-half lead in the first place. From there, it was pretty much everyone else elevating their own levels of play, with Brock, Javien, King, and Bryce playing somewhat above their pay grade. Piening only played a couple of minutes, making one reverse layup for his first points in two months, but then on the next possession Winton Woods managed to iso TMK on him, and... yeah. TMK finished with 16 points but also 6 turnovers. Harmon 15, Seaonta 12.
Record is down to 4-16. Somehow, as a 16-loss team facing a schedule with two games against Winton Woods and one against Moeller, we have only lost one game by 20+, and it was a 38-point loss to Lebanon in December. Next is Withrow, who I don't know much about but who also have not won very many games.
cincinnatieng82
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This team will be a tough out what the game came down to tonight was if walnut had a Carter Sellers or a guy his size to guard Tyler they win that game and the refs with an obvious miss on a kick ball and fouls when WW was trying to foul walnut with the lead costed our Eagles I hate to blame refs but this one at the end seemed as if they didn’t want to see the UC commit lose to a below 500 team on senior night! I’m interested to see who our first round matchup will be in the tournament anybody but Moeller I think we can get us a win or two!
mrorcadood
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I would imagine, given their respective seeding, that we might see Walnut/WW round 3. Stu and the boys have had two 4th-quarter leads against Winton Woods in two games and haven't been able to hold on either time. If Winton Woods doesn't take a bye slot, I can't imagine any other team would want to play them more than Walnut.
As for big men, I was curious if we would see 6'5 Will Rivers play any minutes, but he didn't. He didn't play bad in his 2 minutes of varsity action in the Turpin game, and he seemed like a natural fit to play a few minutes in this one.
OkolonaBlues
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Their last 3 possessions in the 4th summarizes their season. Double dribble, travel (trying to split two defenders), horrible contested 3, with 8 seconds, when they are down 2. Then they get a clean look at a 3 to tie, that doesn’t go in. Situational awareness kills them late in games.
Ohiobasketball513
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lol “they didn’t want to see the UC commit lose to a below 500 team on senior night”
As if the refs give a crap about McKinley or him going to UC. You sound about as about as WW fans losing to LM a couple weeks back
You can almost see WH getting into the same bracket as WW, considering how close they’ve played them. Hopefully, the Warriors will be ready.
mrorcadood
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Streaming options for tonight's games:
Free
Walnut Hills / Withrow maybe live on YouTube (On Impact will also have a stream, but their broadcasts usually aren't very high-quality)
Paid
Winton Woods / Northmont live on NFHS
Ross / Turpin live on NFHS
(Note: the Kings / Anderson game that I mistakenly added to today's schedule is actually happening on Tuesday)
Free
Walnut Hills / Withrow maybe live on YouTube (On Impact will also have a stream, but their broadcasts usually aren't very high-quality)
Paid
Winton Woods / Northmont live on NFHS
Ross / Turpin live on NFHS
(Note: the Kings / Anderson game that I mistakenly added to today's schedule is actually happening on Tuesday)
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There will only be 3 spots left on the bracket by the time they pick, so their options will be limited. I imagine 2 of the spots remaining at that point will be the 1st round against Moeller and the bye awaiting Moeller. It will depend on if Edgewood prefers Elder or Winton Woods in all likelihood.
cincinnatieng82
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All found with no calls and a missed kick ball
cincinnatieng82
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I hope they can get WW round 1
cincinnatieng82
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No not mad at all I’m very realistic but there was a blatant missed kick ball by Tyler there were fouls not called when WW was trying to foul in the last 1:30 of the game that if they put walnut on the line we are having a different discussion. I know my Eagles are limited in how far they can go but they are not your average 4 win team either they have Moeller a tough game through 3 and half quarters they’ve had WW down both times they’ve played most of their losses on this side of Christmas break are 1-2 possession games. Tyler is really good and was the difference for the game because he’s a 6’9 4 star being guarded by a 6’2? At best center. From those in the coaching world that I know around Cincinnati all have the same sentiments if they’ve watched walnut play they play hard and they are a team that can beat anyone on a given night and that’s from some of the basketball minds in the citylol “they didn’t want to see the UC commit lose to a below 500 team on senior night”
As if the refs give a crap about McKinley or him going to UC. You sound about as about as WW fans losing to LM a couple weeks back
cincinnatieng82
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I’d hope that’s the thinking for the staff
mrorcadood
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I just don't find it that fun to care this much about the refs. Truth be told, I never really thought we were going to win, except for maybe right before Harmon hit the three that cut the lead to 3. I had enough fun thinking about how frustrated Winton Woods fans must be while they were spending the entire game trailing a 4-15 team.
Why would having a day job dissuade a school from hiring a good coach?
Been answered. My bad.
Lebanon would have half the wins they currently have if Spence Davidson were not on the squad. The drop-off to the backup pg is massive.
mrorcadood
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Walnut down 15-2 before the first quarter is even half over
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WALNUTPOSTING: Walnut Hills 51, Withrow 46
Withrow presented a unique challenge to the Eagles in the form of two veteran 6'6'' bigs in Myles Rochelle and Michael Johnson. Throughout the season, Walnut has struggled to score against similar teams that can play multiple talented bigs like Little Miami and Anderson.
Early on, it looked like Walnut was wilting under the pressure as they got buried in a 15-2 hole with the aforementioned bigs and sophomore guard Avery Jordan having an offensive field day. That, combined with the fact that this was basically a glorified exhibition game, meant that Stu could start getting creative with lineups, which he did, and that seemed to loosen the team up a bit. Down 21-9 at the end of 1, Stu began playing Piening and Rivers for extended minutes, and both weren't half bad. Walnut spent the entire second and third quarters chipping away at the Withrow lead, with King hitting a big 3 at the end of the third to cut the lead to five entering the fourth. There, Withrow's players began to get fatigued, as they played only 5 players all game with no subs, while Walnut played 9 deep and were able to get Claxton and King in with fresh legs to close the last remaining gap. Javien and King started to have their way in the paint against the exhausted Tigers, and once Walnut took a 48-46 lead the game felt over, as Walnut closed it out with a layup from Javien.
King had a great game from all over the court, finishing with 18. Javien had 12 points and although I wasn't counting, almost certainly had a double-double as he cleaned up in the 4th quarter. Piening had his best game of the season, hitting his only shot attempt, a 3, and distributing the ball very nicely, which helped keep us in the game. Claxton and Austin had below-average days for their standards, but still drew a few fouls. Bryce had 4 and played great defense again with Najoli out. Rivers played solid defense against the two Withrow bigs as the only guy tall enough to compete in the paint with them. Johnson and Rochelle combined for 41 of Withrow's 46 points.
Record: 5-16. Final game of the regular season is against Summit, one of the better teams in the MVC.
Withrow presented a unique challenge to the Eagles in the form of two veteran 6'6'' bigs in Myles Rochelle and Michael Johnson. Throughout the season, Walnut has struggled to score against similar teams that can play multiple talented bigs like Little Miami and Anderson.
Early on, it looked like Walnut was wilting under the pressure as they got buried in a 15-2 hole with the aforementioned bigs and sophomore guard Avery Jordan having an offensive field day. That, combined with the fact that this was basically a glorified exhibition game, meant that Stu could start getting creative with lineups, which he did, and that seemed to loosen the team up a bit. Down 21-9 at the end of 1, Stu began playing Piening and Rivers for extended minutes, and both weren't half bad. Walnut spent the entire second and third quarters chipping away at the Withrow lead, with King hitting a big 3 at the end of the third to cut the lead to five entering the fourth. There, Withrow's players began to get fatigued, as they played only 5 players all game with no subs, while Walnut played 9 deep and were able to get Claxton and King in with fresh legs to close the last remaining gap. Javien and King started to have their way in the paint against the exhausted Tigers, and once Walnut took a 48-46 lead the game felt over, as Walnut closed it out with a layup from Javien.
King had a great game from all over the court, finishing with 18. Javien had 12 points and although I wasn't counting, almost certainly had a double-double as he cleaned up in the 4th quarter. Piening had his best game of the season, hitting his only shot attempt, a 3, and distributing the ball very nicely, which helped keep us in the game. Claxton and Austin had below-average days for their standards, but still drew a few fouls. Bryce had 4 and played great defense again with Najoli out. Rivers played solid defense against the two Withrow bigs as the only guy tall enough to compete in the paint with them. Johnson and Rochelle combined for 41 of Withrow's 46 points.
Record: 5-16. Final game of the regular season is against Summit, one of the better teams in the MVC.
cincinnatieng82
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Loved the way Will played for Walnut the moment didn’t look too big for him! After giving Up 21 points in the first to give up 25 combined the last three quarters is great defensive night I think we solved or helped alleviate the size issue with Will Rivers
mrorcadood
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Saturday Scoreboard
Walnut Hills 51, Withrow 46 - final
Turpin 62, Ross 55 - final
Northmont 62, Winton Woods 57 - final (OT)
Walnut Hills 51, Withrow 46 - final
Turpin 62, Ross 55 - final
Northmont 62, Winton Woods 57 - final (OT)
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mrorcadood
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Looks like TMK didn't make the trip up to Northmont. Makes sense.
Why does that makes sense? I'm not in the loop.
So happy the light has been turned on, as my only argument has been this use of talent should have been used all season. Think what you want, but Hats off to the staff for keeping on trying to improve. You don’t throw out the old, but ignoring the new has cost them many games and it seems they have figured out a formula that has been able to get them over the hump, get them some experience for the future, and just plain get the most out of the program they can right now. Good for them. Keep fighting and the right matchup, could easily see a win or two in the tourney.
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Tyler did make the trip but didn't play... He had a walking boot on!
mrorcadood
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I was thinking that a) Winton Woods can't afford to lose their best player in a meaningless game right before the tourney starts, and b) giving the rest of the team experience without being over-reliant on TMK will help them in the long run.
That's so strange. Watching back the replay of Walnut/Winton Woods, he was walking perfectly fine at the end (he got the game-ending rebound) and I don't think Winton Woods stormed the court to cause any sort of injury there. I have no idea what this could be.