East Liverpool n Wellsville Football

 
Prob not playoff..these 2 schools have fallen behind it seems in all sports.Used to be alot of talent and pride.
 
I thought it was a HUGE mistake for Wellsville to hire a little league coach last year. Going 1-9 with a 2 TD victory over winless Leetonia confirmed that IMO. They looked even worse than their record and I would be shocked to see any significant change this season
As far as the EOAC I would consider United the favorite until proven otherwise. They were the only team to win a playoff game last year.
 
Well. You and 95% of surrounding communities think the same..hopefully things change down there in future for sake of Athletic program. Any word on the Blue Devils from Lisbon and the preseason they are having?
 
I thought it was a HUGE mistake for Wellsville to hire a little league coach last year. Going 1-9 with a 2 TD victory over winless Leetonia confirmed that IMO. They looked even worse than their record and I would be shocked to see any significant change this season
As far as the EOAC I would consider United the favorite until proven otherwise. They were the only team to win a playoff game last year.
Why in the world would they do that? Did he have an experience at the high school or middle school level at all? Or did people just like him
 
What significant changes can Wellsville do??? They have maybe 17-20 kids and the school is floundering as a lot of kids are migrating to Southern Local and or Beaver Local.

Close the doors.
 
What significant changes can Wellsville do??? They have maybe 17-20 kids and the school is floundering as a lot of kids are migrating to Southern Local and or Beaver
I think this gets lost on way too many people, doesn't really matter what a team like this does in the coaching ranks or with strategy if they don't have the athletes to be successful at their school
 
According to EOAC.NET Wellsville had 90 boys. That's more than VCS, Lisbon and Leetonia. And only 6 behind Southern. I'm not saying they should be a juggernaut, but at least they had some sort of resemblance of a team prior to 23.
I'm not doubting the claims of losing kids to surrounding schools. I'm saying hiring a little league coach did them no favors. Surely a coordinator would've been more qualified. Unless the pee wee Tigers were successful and people were saying " Hey, he won with those kids and he knows those kids"
 
According to EOAC.NET Wellsville had 90 boys. That's more than VCS, Lisbon and Leetonia. And only 6 behind Southern. I'm not saying they should be a juggernaut, but at least they had some sort of resemblance of a team prior to 23.
I'm not doubting the claims of losing kids to surrounding schools. I'm saying hiring a little league coach did them no favors. Surely a coordinator would've been more qualified. Unless the pee wee Tigers were successful and people were saying " Hey, he won with those kids and he knows those kids"
Who that is a qualified or well established coach looked at the Wellsville job and threw their hat into the ring for it? Nobody. Can't blame them for trying out one of their own who had been successful with their kids before. We're still a few years out before you can really make any judgement on the success or failure of that hire
 
Who that is a qualified or well established coach looked at the Wellsville job and threw their hat into the ring for it? Nobody. Can't blame them for trying out one of their own who had been successful with their kids before. We're still a few years out before you can really make any judgement on the success or failure of that hire
I'm definitely not close to the Wellsville program , so I believe you when you say nobody else threw their hat in the ring. I just happen to know that Wellsville isn't devoid of athletes ( competitive basketball team for several years) and the job didn't feel like some lost cause job. They've beaten everyone in the EOAC this decade outside of United and Southern. You're right, there no way to evaluate this hire until year 2 or 3. But that was a significant step back last year
 
I'm definitely not close to the Wellsville program , so I believe you when you say nobody else threw their hat in the ring. I just happen to know that Wellsville isn't devoid of athletes ( competitive basketball team for several years) and the job didn't feel like some lost cause job. They've beaten everyone in the EOAC this decade outside of United and Southern. You're right, there no way to evaluate this hire until year 2 or 3. But that was a significant step back last year
For competitive basketball you need 3 really solid athletes in your entire school, the rest can be ham and eggers who hustle and you'll be fine. In football you need at the bare minimum quadruple that to be even competitive and you need them to have the right bodies to make a competent line up. It's hard for a school this size to have sustained success even if the structure in place is good
 
What significant changes can Wellsville do??? They have maybe 17-20 kids and the school is floundering as a lot of kids are migrating to Southern Local and or Beaver Local.

Close the doors.
They had 29 according to their roster last year and from what I hear over 30 this season.

"Who that is a qualified or well established coach looked at the Wellsville job and threw their hat into the ring for it? Nobody. Can't blame them for trying out one of their own who had been successful with their kids before. We're still a few years out before you can really make any judgement on the success or failure of that hire"

Yeah if you watched the Tigers last year they were very young and inexperienced and had a whole lot of injuries. This is going to be a complete rebuild. Spoke with a coach and they had a good jr high team last year from what I heard and have a good freshman class this season. It's tough to be competitive year in and year out with 50 total kids per grade. The former coach left for EL at a time when a rebuild was on the horizon,

"Prob not playoff..these 2 schools have fallen behind it seems in all sports.Used to be alot of talent and pride."

This is totally not true at all. Both schools have had individual state champions in the last 5 years. Both have good basketball programs, I believe Wellsville won their league a few years in a row recently in basketball, Both teams have very good volleyball and bowling programs with several league titles over the last 5 years as well. Football isn't everything. Both of these schools have had extremely good basketball players, I believe the county's all time leading scorer is from wellsville or atleast was the all time scorer, EL's volleyball coach is the winningest in the state, and with the new division alignments wellsville's volleyball team could really make some noise this season. East Liverpool's basketball program has traditionally been the best in the county and had some of the mot talented players in any sport col county has ever seen. They consistently win 15+ games a year. Heck, I think Wellsville's previous basketball coach won over 300 games in his career. There's More to high schools than the 10 weeks of football a year.
 
Why in the world would they do that? Did he have an experience at the high school or middle school level at all? Or did people just like him
I think he was a very successful coach in jr high and youth and they gave him a chance. The hire was very late as well because the former coach left for EL in the spring I believe and by that time most coaches have jobs but from what i am told the kids really like this coach.
 
I think he was a very successful coach in jr high and youth and they gave him a chance. The hire was very late as well because the former coach left for EL in the spring I believe and by that time most coaches have jobs but from what i am told the kids really like this coach.
NEVER Coached JR HIGH FOOTBALL AT Wellsville..
 
NEVER Coached JR HIGH FOOTBALL AT Wellsville..
So? Maybe he coached jr high elsewhere. Who cares? Did you apply? Are you upset a kid without high school experience got a job you didn't? If the kids like the coach and his roster numbers are good which both seem to be happening, give him a chance to build something.
 
So? Maybe he coached jr high elsewhere. Who cares? Did you apply? Are you upset a kid without high school experience got a job you didn't? If the kids like the coach and his roster numbers are good which both seem to be happening, give him a chance to build something.
Nope, coached football no place else..numbers mean NOTHING newbie..
 
Numbers matter a great deal when your program isn't very good. Get 30 kids out and you can run full scout offense/defense, have JV games, rotate a few spots across the OL/DL and WE/DB to keep guys fresh. Clearly you have an axe to grind
Well, when you got 30plus kids and only 7 -10 know how tackle that's not good for a " Scout Team".. just saying..AGAIN numbers mean NOTHING..
 
Potters and tigers lost close games. Carrollton was better than I thought and so was wellsville. Some bad luck in their game, they were right there the entire game and didn't quit. Interested to see how the season ends up for these teams. Both teams have great numbers, potters with 55 or so and tigers with 31. great to see for both programs.
 
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