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Why did they wait until next year for the 12-team play-off. Should have been at least 8 years ago. It's so silly the arguments you hear and the bottom line is the SEC isn't as good this year and they shouldn't be treated as if they are. Michigan and Washington are clearly deserving, After that? Who knows. You would guess that there has to be an SEC team adn it has to be Alabama and Florida State probably deserves to go even as probably not a top 6 team, then you have Texas redder than a beet being blow torched. Or you put Texas in and leave out the SEC altogether? Georgia has to be done even with all the due respect to their long winning streak because they have no real big wins and the best team they played they lost to. Why is Ohio State so heavily penalized for losing to a top 2 team ON THE ROAD and Georgia isn't punished at all with a easy schedule no big wins and a loss in their biggest game?

A very nice day overall, Louisville and Tulane not coming through, but the totals were spot on and made up for those , Troy rolling up big rushing yards , Liberty on Friday with more incentive at home to play in a big time bowl game and stay unbeaten and Boise St were easy winners, Texas - Okie St a big over play. Miami AT + 9 [A teaser with Alabama} and the UNDER totals in that game and the Tulane game were solid. Georgia with that silly deep in territory reverse flip fumble reminded me of the Browns vs Denver and sealed their fate. Browns give up about 18 points more a game on the road than at home. Can't be that large a disparity.

CFB average program is made up of over 20 percent transfers. The QB position is made up of 55 percent transfers. This number will get larger most likely. A hug e difference from just a couple years ago. Much better year last year in CFB but the NFL is pretty solid. Large variances in performances and part of this is the transfer dynamic. USC can be dynamic offensively, but they haven't built their team they right way , ditto LSU as both defenses are flat out bad.
 
Harrycrane said:
Why did they wait until next year for the 12-team play-off. Should have been at least 8 years ago. It's so silly the arguments you hear and the bottom line is the SEC isn't as good this year and they shouldn't be treated as if they are. Michigan and Washington are clearly deserving, After that? Who knows. You would guess that there has to be an SEC team adn it has to be Alabama and Florida State probably deserves to go even as probably not a top 6 team, then you have Texas redder than a beet being blow torched. Or you put Texas in and leave out the SEC altogether? Georgia has to be done even with all the due respect to their long winning streak because they have no real big wins and the best team they played they lost to. Why is Ohio State so heavily penalized for losing to a top 2 team ON THE ROAD and Georgia isn't punished at all with a easy schedule no big wins and a loss in their biggest game?

A very nice day overall, Louisville and Tulane not coming through, but the totals were spot on and made up for those , Troy rolling up big rushing yards , Liberty on Friday with more incentive at home to play in a big time bowl game and stay unbeaten and Boise St were easy winners, Texas - Okie St a big over play. Miami AT + 9 [A teaser with Alabama} and the UNDER totals in that game and the Tulane game were solid. Georgia with that silly deep in territory reverse flip fumble reminded me of the Browns vs Denver and sealed their fate. Browns give up about 18 points more a game on the road than at home. Can't be that large a disparity.

CFB average program is made up of over 20 percent transfers. The QB position is made up of 55 percent transfers. This number will get larger most likely. A hug e difference from just a couple years ago. Much better year last year in CFB but the NFL is pretty solid. Large variances in performances and part of this is the transfer dynamic. USC can be dynamic offensively, but they haven't built their team they right way , ditto LSU as both defenses are flat out bad.
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Good gambling advice this weekend
 
Congrats to Glenville , didn't post a thought on that one but they are becoming a D-4 power after at one point being D-1.

Philly Eagles have bene outgained the last 4 games and won them all. They have a 4th quarter thing going on where everything that has to happens does. They are very good but not as good as that one loss record certainly. The Eagles defense has bene stretched, beat up and on the field a ton the last couple weeks. Two interior guys up front may not go today. SF is healthier and playing well. A little more rested as well. Tahe the hat off to Philly if they find a way again today but SF at 2.5 at open was automatic. It's 3 now. Both secondaries' are suspect especially Philly's and with a couple D-Lineman either out or limited? Some points may be scored.

Jags were a very good teaser leg at 7.5-8 now rising to 9.5 over the fading Bengals who shouldn't have enough to keep up with thew Jags. [Titans to up over a TD at home vs Colts Dolphins at open at - 7, to outscore the Commanders in DC now 9.5} Tampa Bay is a mash unit and opened up at - 5.5 [Up over 11} Carolina isn't good, but TB is really beat up including Mayfield who is less than 100 percent 'WR Godwin as well} Coaches have said they may want to use more RPO's and have voiced this after Reich's firing struggling QB Young . HIs rushing total is at 10.5., he rips off just one decent run with a couple more attempts than usual?

Steelers finally piled up some nice offensive stats and outgained a team for the first time all year, but only scored 16 points. They should get about 7 to 10 more today vs a terrible Arizona team. total opened at 39.3 [got at 40, now 41.5} Murray will keep throwing it until the gun and this could be a breakout game for the Steelers O and could they get 30+? Laid 4 early now 6.5 and a nice teaser leg as well. 31- 14 gets us there all the way around .

KC Chiefs defense is very fast and closes well. Green Bay is improving but they have played a few below average defenses and a Lions unit that was out maneuvered scheme wise on T-Day with a softer zone. Love will not have Aaron Jones and the Chiefs will make Love be more precise with strong man coverage. Chiefs laying 5.5 with their rushing game may be clicking against this team. If they run it well Mahomes will hit a few downfield no doubt. This game will test GB in terms of them being a suddenly well-functioning offensive machine and test Love's accuracy will be tested more as noted.

Old man Joe Flacco gets the start for the Browns today, line opened at 1 , now the Rams are giving 3.5 . Is Flacco even with his being a statue an upgrade over the PJ Walker DTR options?
 
George S. Patton said:
The current Granville coach is a name to remember, he still teaches in Olentangy. And he's very interested.

From my sources:
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No way he teaches in Olentangy and is head coach at Granville. Also, is Orange that much of a better job than Granville? Should know soon, this was one of the first jobs open.
 
ER8868 said:
No way he teaches in Olentangy and is head coach at Granville. Also, is Orange that much of a better job than Granville? Should know soon, this was one of the first jobs open.
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The distance from Olentangy Orange HS to Granville HS is 35 miles which would be about a 45 minute drive without traffic
 
Harrycrane said:
Congrats to Glenville , didn't post a thought on that one but they are becoming a D-4 power after at one point being D-1.

Philly Eagles have bene outgained the last 4 games and won them all. They have a 4th quarter thing going on where everything that has to happens does. They are very good but not as good as that one loss record certainly. The Eagles defense has bene stretched, beat up and on the field a ton the last couple weeks. Two interior guys up front may not go today. SF is healthier and playing well. A little more rested as well. Tahe the hat off to Philly if they find a way again today but SF at 2.5 at open was automatic. It's 3 now. Both secondaries' are suspect especially Philly's and with a couple D-Lineman either out or limited? Some points may be scored.

Jags were a very good teaser leg at 7.5-8 now rising to 9.5 over the fading Bengals who shouldn't have enough to keep up with thew Jags. [Titans to up over a TD at home vs Colts Dolphins at open at - 7, to outscore the Commanders in DC now 9.5} Tampa Bay is a mash unit and opened up at - 5.5 [Up over 11} Carolina isn't good, but TB is really beat up including Mayfield who is less than 100 percent 'WR Godwin as well} Coaches have said they may want to use more RPO's and have voiced this after Reich's firing struggling QB Young . HIs rushing total is at 10.5., he rips off just one decent run with a couple more attempts than usual?

Steelers finally piled up some nice offensive stats and outgained a team for the first time all year, but only scored 16 points. They should get about 7 to 10 more today vs a terrible Arizona team. total opened at 39.3 [got at 40, now 41.5} Murray will keep throwing it until the gun and this could be a breakout game for the Steelers O and could they get 30+? Laid 4 early now 6.5 and a nice teaser leg as well. 31- 14 gets us there all the way around .

KC Chiefs defense is very fast and closes well. Green Bay is improving but they have played a few below average defenses and a Lions unit that was out maneuvered scheme wise on T-Day with a softer zone. Love will not have Aaron Jones and the Chiefs will make Love be more precise with strong man coverage. Chiefs laying 5.5 with their rushing game may be clicking against this team. If they run it well Mahomes will hit a few downfield no doubt. This game will test GB in terms of them being a suddenly well-functioning offensive machine and test Love's accuracy will be tested more as noted.

Old man Joe Flacco gets the start for the Browns today, line opened at 1 , now the Rams are giving 3.5 . Is Flacco even with his being a statue an upgrade over the PJ Walker DTR options?
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Flacco played a very good game... threw a great ball.... not sure why they THREW DEEP on his interception.. they were moving the ball on short 15-25 yard throws the WHOLE GAME.... Browns are banged up pretty good....
 
Browns are simply not really good on defense on the road . Huge disparity home away numbers . Flacco was very conscientious most of the day . Until he decided to just chuck the ball up and have that prayer answered . Not close . Huge return , ballgame.

Like last years couple weeks of bad weather and wind hammering under plays and totals in CFB (. OSU - Northwesten obnoxious wind weekend affected this one and a handful of others in the Midwest .

Thought Pittsburgh offense was improving. Pickett doesn’t see the field really well and can’t see open receivers in the end zone . He runs , he gets hurt and the Steelers lose to maybe the worst team in football , Patriots are now that team actually . Anyway bad weather in Pittsburgh with a major storm system heading that way negated an over play and made UNDERS on the 1 o’clock starts no matter how low on NYJ Atlanta and Patriots Chargers. SF was automatic at under 3 situationally as Philly was off of 4 wars in a row and were on the field for 92 plays in defense the week before . Weather not great but SF was scoring too much and were healthy . Best team when healthy.

MNF unders May be regressing . Cincinnati surprised and lost done with Jax teaser but open 7.5-8 closed at some places 10.5 . Automatic play on Cincinnati at that price trying to middle a large gap. Didn’t work out because the Jags couldn’t just win in OT but 10.5 was a gift . Jax can win at home but not a good home team overall ATS and sometimes lose head scratchers .

Cardinals had lost 9 in a row on the road and are a terrible offense on third down and just a bad defense . Down 24-3 at one point ? Connor ran through them . Cards beat them up .

Weather looks iffy in a few places this weekend . Numbers will slide down quickly .
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
I have no idea, I am not familiar with the coach. I just saw the comment of Olentangy Orange and Granville and thought that would be a challenge logistically.

I am sure Orange will get a qualified candidate.
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I agree, just don’t think it will be him. Granville is rolling.
 
Steelers Patriots total at 30.5, opened at 35 [Got at 33.5} and is not as much weather related on Thursday as the worse precipitation issues, and possibly wind problems are more Sunday. A few others moved large were the Browns -Jags total going from 37 all the way down to 30.5 for obvious reasons and the favorite flipped from Jags - 3.5 at the lookahead which we got and is now with Lawrence ankle issue Cleveland is a 3-point favorite, so obviously Lawrence is worth near a TD of value and the total I got at 34. Some I know got the Browns at - 1 - 1.5.

Snow possible in Chicago moved the total down to 40.5 from 45 [got at 44} and Detroit - 4 down to -3. Detroit indoors is always a look OVER first and they came through vs New Orleans scoring 21 early and holding on getting into the low 30's giving up almost 30 themselves. Pretty high chance of actual snow that day with the temps being lower there than some other locales where it's mostly rain and or wind.

Cowboys at open - 2.5 automatic vss. weary Eagles who barely beat the Boys at home a few weeks ago and have been in a couple wars since then. Eagles modus operandi simply wasn't sustainable. Playing like a decent or good team for the majority of a game losing the yardage and TOP battle but figuring out a late game solution, sometimes with some breaks and or opponents unforced errors. Dallas gave up a lot against the Seahawks and that kept this line down a bit. but at 3.5 you may get some Eagle dough which may move it back towards 3.

Rams face kind of a quasi-play-off game as the face the Ravens and an upset win here they can possibly make the play-offs or at least put themselves in a good position to make a push with an easier schedule going forward save the final week game vs SF but even that may see a SF team with a cemented play-off seed. Ravens off of a bye and with two road games on deck at Jax and San Fran followed by a home date with the explosive Dolphins I am thinking they will be focused rested and ready to go. Heavier rain forecasted brought total to 4-41 from 44.

Jets Texans total went from 38 to 33.5 where it is now. Jets QB issues are as bad as it gets but the defense keeps playing well. Does the dam break and they just burst? Stroud appears to see the field as if he is in his 3rd or 4th year. Got 37 played under that in what could be an ugly game which the Jets play frequently.
 
Congrats to Kris Manu a rare Coffman three-year starter at Left Tackle for being named D-1 first team all state . Big Mike Adams the former OSU and Pittsburgh Steeler was the only other one that I recall in the last couple decades. Has a few MAC offers and a couple IVY's [Dartmouth and Princeton} so the future is bright.

Army Navy being played in Foxboro Mass for the first time, weather looks pretty good at about 45-50 degrees and no big precipitation. Service Academy UNDER angles are pretty significant as the UNDER is 50-10 last 60 games played between the Academy's. Been hammering many of these for years. Total is a previously unheard of 27.5. Army is playing pretty well the last few weeks and is a 2.5- 3 point favorite [ML - 145} Took Army , but will stay away from the total as I didn't get on it soon enough when it was 30-31.5. Can find a 28.5. Bowl season used to be a much easier handicap when most players were going to play and sitting out wasn't really a thing. It came slowly , a here and there dynamic but now it's pretty significant and with the transfer portal and the older guys who are good enough to be drafted often sitting out, it's more of an information based handicap and not grab those early numbers type of thing. As it is some say they are playing then don't. Some are going to transfer but still play. Coaching staffs get shaken up as some are leaving but still coach this one and some will joing the next team may be working may be not.

Motivation has always been a crucial handicapping tool when breaking down bowl games., and that dynamic is still present OSU could be playing a lot of back-ups and younger guys and that's not necessarily a bad thing seeing as they didn't meet the normal expectations [3 of 4 years in the play-off} and we will see some talented dudes on the sideline cheering on their understudy's like we did two years ago vs. Utah. Mizzou is now favored and will clearly be the more motivated team.

Some games with fairly motivated teams playing lesser teams jumped out power ratings wise. UTSA with 7th year QB Harris playing should outclass Marshall who helped our cause getting that needed 6th win in their last game, I had the game at 10 where it sits now but opened at 8- 8.5. I think two scores is a very reasonable margin here. Same type rating in the San Jose State - Coastal Carolina game with SJSU being a hot 6-1 ATS last 7 and that loss was by a couple points. Played better teams and I have them power rated 11 better and it came out at 8 also. It's now as high as 10.5. Coastal not that enthused here and SJSU is at least as motivated and a better team that can open up a margin vs. this class. SJSU QB Cordeiro is from Hawaii and this game is in his native state and he will is a dynamic playmaker.

Patriots -Steelers may be offensive to some viewers tonight. use precaution and don't operate any heavy equipment watching this one which could be a Nyquil substitute for those affected. Eating Turkey if you want to make it up through the end isn't encouraged. Patriots are going to probably lose the rest and get a good QB prospect near the top of the draft. Belichick rumor around Foxboro is possibly the LA Chargers for that last good weather Retirment type job. Nearing the end, but I don't think he wants to go out like this.
 
Total for the game tonight is down to 30 [Saw 29.5 at one book} on average 30.5 may be still doable. Feel good at the open 34. Made the total exactly that but with the Steelers looking so bad offensively on Sunday after a good week, and the Patriots with their pretty much historic at this point ineptitude? Line was going to get towards 30. Short fields defensive TD's and or special teams scores or setting up scores seems to be almost necessary for this to get much over 30. Both teams missing some guys as well on offense. Patriots could end the year with many dubiously horrible offensive numbers.

Rocks season has been digested and the Seniors going on a run was a great thing. They worked very hard the last few years under Stokes and did some very good things the last 5 weeks especially. They had a formula, a method, and overcame some adversity to be better later in the year and fought hard til the end. They had smaller margins for error than many Coffman teams we have seen the last couple decades and played to their strengths very well and tried to minimize their weaknesses and did a nice job overall. Still looking at some things before posting a total summation of the year. but this year I watched more snaps [ Live Games, TV games [2} and streaming a couple} in Stokes three season tenure and definite patterns emerged. The offense looking forwards has an obvious need of replacing a two-year starter, and a couple O-Lineman need to be worked in and developed, but some talent and experience is present at RB, receiver, and Tight End . Defense has a lot of questions and starting spots up for grabs but the D-Line can be pretty good with a few guys coming back who saw a lot of action. I have heard a few things regarding Stokes status but not going to share here and am not sure how accurate it is anyway. He is an excellent coach and it would be great if he stays but it may not be in the cards for a few reasons, but time will tell and when something happens, we can talk about it I guess. Let the New Year commence and we may have some answers.
 
Patriots have more offense in a quarter than they had in three games. Steelers reeling. Grabbed over 30 to try to middle, but it looks like it may just fly over somehow as the Steelers defense is playing like crap two weeks in a row. Patriots' money came in late but only moved it a point down to 5.5 , 6.5 was too high considering the total and was a good value seeing as though the Steelers weren't looking to score a ton either, but 21 in one half for the Patriots hasn't happened in a longer while. 31 points at the half goes over the 30-30.5 if you had that. Patriots had scored 30 total points the previous 4 games and have 21 with a few minutes left in the half. Patriots had only scored 20 or more in a game 2 times before tonight
[20 even vs Philly and 29 vs Buffalo} . 10 PREVIOUS GAMES THEY HAVE AVERAGED 11 POINTS A GAME and the " Stillers" have given up 21 already? Incredible . Patriots could lose this one, but they should cover. Patriots are 27th in the league in passing yards per game at 201. They have only 13 less than that right now.
 
In the absence of severe weather last nights game was as “ popular” an under play as any in recent memory. When it got to 30 it was all larder money but also a good buy back spot . The reason the game went over by 5-8 points was a short field ( actually 2 but they turned it over on downs the first one ) for the Steelers in the second half and the Patriots completed two jump balls downfield with tight Steeler coverage , plays they didn’t make much all year . Patriots played not to lose basically and we’re close to achieving the opposite . Weird call on the long snapper late wafted a possible Steeler late rally . Guy I be work with went out of a survivor contest with the Steelers last night . Shame . Teaser legs fell by the wayside for many as well , but Patriots with a low scoring game beckoning were the right “. Leg getting 12-12.5 depending .
 
Steelers playing like the 4-9 team they should be at this point. No way should this team be 7-6. Minus 40 in point differential this season with some very fortunate wins. If any team plays relatively mistake free football against them, it's a Steelers loss. They may very well finish at 8-9. The QB play going forward will not be solved by Pickett or Trubisky ever. They have to draft for the QB position.
 
Whatever happens with Stokes, people thinking anyone in charge having a problem with his record is false. It's not a lack of patience or shortsightedness. It was very apparent in 2021 in year one the talent and experience wasn't there and that it was a massive rebuild. Improvement the next year despite the upset loss in round one in the play-offs, and this year the team was similar to last season but with a better play-off run obviously and a large upset win in week 10. Yes, a 21-16 three season run hasn't been the norm the previous two decades before Stokes got here but most with any idea about the situation knows the personnel and talent hasn't been the same as it was.

He has the kids believing in his culture change and that they work harder than their opponents do and they get the most out of what they have. Is it perfect? NO but what is? Is his style for everyone? No, but most tough coaches who push their kids to be their best aren't going to be for everyone. As for the culture change, it should be a change when you get a new staff and HC in place. It's THEIR program. The only problem I have is some of the language that suggests that the previous 20 years was an era of poor culture with less than good character kids. Stokes saying, he was glad to make this run with high character kids because it wouldn't have been as satisfying if it was done with lower character guys. What did that mean? Some of the players saying in the press that they had a massive culture change despite none of the players being older than Freshman in 2020 in a Covid, year with no one playing for the previous staff. This goes with putting your own stamp and program in place I suppose so it's not a huge deal but just something that I notice and don't think is al that cool tbh for lack of a better way to put it.

Speaking of quotes in the press, along with Stokes saying the good 5 week run was especially satisfying because the kids are of high character, he also said that he hopes 'This" continues in reference to this success and the work that was done to get there. Hmm well may be it's semantics, but why would he say ' I hope " it continues ? Wouldn't he have a huge part in it 'Continuing" ? Just something that I noticed. may be it's nothing and just a choice of wrods that has no deeper meaning but deciphering coach speak is something that can be telling.

Columbus Crew and Army Navy being on at the same time was a back-and-forth type thing for me as I was very happy for the Crew who got a well deserved MLS cup title and are champions. Beautiful facility down there and the downtown of Columbus and Arena district has come a long way in the last 20 years. Army clearly the better team up 17-3 could have not handled the end of the game worse and it almost cost them. Navy had real issues being able to move the ball all afternoon, down 17-3, and Army literally let them just move down the field with a 3 man rush with no one actually covering anyone playing so far off even when the were deeper in their own territory, making it no harder than throwing to receivers against air. They gave up an easy score and then punt on 4th and 3 netting 11 yards in Navy territory. Again, they stay in that same defense and of course Navy won against AIR on the next last drive before getting stopped by the clock [Certainly not Army} and being just a bit too far out for that QB tush push thing they ran. Safety made the score 28 and a push for many. Just had the side with Army but it shouldn't have come down to that certainly. Army staying on that Charmin soft defense two straight possessions was mind boggling and just a really bad way to manage the end of a game.

Getting the early numbers on some totals and sides alike is often crucial from a longer-term perspective no doubt. Browns getting points at home vs banged up Jax was key especially getting the line to more than 10 in a teaser what should be a close game. Browns even if it had to go against a healthy Lawrence would be tough to score on at home . Cincinnati - Indy Colts been a blind OVER team and the Bengals found some offense certainly last week with Browning pitching almost a perfect game against a home challenged Jags team. Jags being better on the road is a concern but with their QB issues it gets less concerning.

Jets getting the earlier 5.5 quickly down to 4.5 [ Now 3.5} vs. the Texans was a good number and teasable certainly. Wilson is an upgrade over Boyle who isn't an NFL QB. Bears at + 4.5 vs Detroit ditto. Lions are just not good at defending running QB's and Goff isn't as good outside and in games with some weather issues. San Francisco was laying 11 which was teasable playing a worn-down Seahawks team that may be fading as the Niners surge a bit, but now Geno Smith is more questionable [Groin} and the line went to 13.5. Looks like closer games in the Denver LAC games with the Broncos getting 3 [Now 2.5 but getting it up to over the 3 and 7 is a good leg}.

It is sometimes difficult to figure out which teams in bowl situations are more or less motivated and sometimes you nail it and sometimes it's apparent early on in a game what is the truth. In game possibilities is invaluable in these situations. Ole Miss was a large go against last year as they went through the motions vs Texas Tech and got embarrassed. Word is Kiffin isn't wanting that situation to play out again and Penn State gives he and the staff more motivation this year and getting the early 4.5 vs a PSU team with some offensive issues and some key opt outs [most top tier teams with higher NFL draft picks has this issue and it is a fluid situation of course} Rebels if motivated should keep this one closer and it could be a pretty entertaining game.

Miami laying the short price to Rutgers, could be a team that lack s motivation, has more than a few opt outs and a messy QB situation lends itself to looking at Rutgers who don't' take bowl opportunity's for granted may be the more interested team and college teasers aren't to be played that frequently for good reason [margins larger than the NFL obviously} but Rutgers getting to over one score in this spot looks pretty valuable. Miami has had close to 10 at this point enter the transfer portal which further depletes their talent advantage and Rutgers we saw play OSU and Michigan pretty tough for a large part of those games.

West Virginia was a surprise this year and overachieved some. North Carolina with stud NFL prospect Maye was rolling along until they weren't and the fall was steep. Maye isn't confirmed to opt out but I like the WVU momentum laying a couple to beat UNC and assume that Maye isn't playing. Iowa State at one score -7 was good enough to fire on over an outclassed defensively speaking Memphis club should give up enough points to give up a two score margin.
 
As always the fluidity of weather and injury reports change perspectives and get you on middle opportunities or cancel a few things out. Weather wasn't going to be as bad in a few places and Trevor Lawrence getting out there wasn't a high probability mid week but there he was. Still liked the Browns getting a few early week regardless and they came through nicely as did the Jets and Bears grabbing points. Ravens get the teaser cover [All teasers came in and Denver and Buffalo to keep it close also looking very good SF kind of scuffling a bit} . Indy continues to be a dead blind OVER team and Cincinnati getting the win helped and makes their season which looked DOA, as possibly viable? May be not.

Brownies season win total looking better now. Jags defense stayed cold and defenseless, going against a younger back-up last week and an old man former upper class QB who has turned the clock back a bit and threw for over 3 Hudy. Ravens get the teaser cover and ML parlay with a walk off punt return, [Jets in week one was another one I remember}. Jared Goff held up his end of the less than solid bad weather QB on the road as he was outplayed by Justin Fields who not be in the plans for Chicago long term? Texans opening 6 on the road was a bad number as the story and rookie QB are legit the Jets defense is legit as well. Tampa Bay and Atlanta played a lower scoring first meeting but looking closer there was not to far from 800 yards of offense and less only 35 points scored. This one at 40 was a buy on the OVER and the teams didn't disappoint , gaining less yards combined [725 } but more points as it flew over. Ridder throws for 8 yards an attempt and 337 yards and they lose? Wow.
 
Incredibly Joe Flacco playing like a top 15 QB in the NFL now. He has made Njoku look like an all pro and other receivers that had next to zero production are now getting involved too. Amazed no other team picked him up this season. The Browns CAN get into the playoffs and win with this guy if the OL can protect him. I know the Browns are on the hook for Watson for years but Flacco looks much better than Watson has during his tenure with the Browns. Flacco was underrated and a very low key personality which lead to him being a forgotten player.
 
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Incredibly Joe Flacco playing like a top 15 QB in the NFL now. He has made Njoku look like an all pro and other receivers that had next to zero production are now getting involved too. Amazed no other team picked him up this season. The Browns CAN get into the playoffs and win with this guy if the OL can protect him. I know the Browns are on the hook for Watson for years but Flacco looks much better than Watson has during his tenure with the Browns. Flacco was underrated and a very low key personality which lead to him being a forgotten player.
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Flacco throws a better ball then Watson.... pretty impressive game by the old man yesterday!!
 
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Flacco throws a better ball then Watson.... pretty impressive game by the old man yesterday!!
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He throws one of the most beautiful balls I have seen. DTR has a below average arm and might be a tad fragile IMO. I saw his NFL combine in the Spring and thought it was one of the worst among the QB's there. I wonder what happens with Flacco for next season especially if he gets the Browns to the playoffs and even wins a game or two ? If that happens, can you imagine the calls from Browns fans to keep him ? Most of the Browns fans don't like Watson anyway. I think Watson is a huge bust that unfortunately the Browns are stuck with. I suspect an ugly ending for Watson and the Browns coming up. Flacco is 38 but someone will give him a look next year as a starter who can win and to teach a young franchise QB. That's if he's still willing to play. I wish the Browns could keep him but don't see that happening. I have to be honest and say I have enjoyed these 2 games with Flacco. It may be the most impressive QB play the Browns have had since Kosar when you consider the Browns do not have top flight receiver talent. I'm just happy to see it and enjoying it.
 
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Big win and needed win and Flacco could be a great story , but JAX pass defense including last week when they allowed Browning to throw a perfect game has been very loose to be kind in coverage . Bengals and Browns receivers were running free . Some props to the staffs for scheming guys open but damn Jax isn’t going anywhere if they can’t get that fixed .

Eagles can’t cover anyone and went on a 10 straight possession giving up points streak (. Last 6 to SF last week 1st 4 for the Cowboys yesterday ) we know about their coverage issues but their pass rush was a strength last year but can’t get to any QB’s this season (. 30 ranked pas rush )
 
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Missed this one. Brian White is now coaching the Hilliard Darby girls golf team. I kind of figured he would get back into football coaching again at some point but maybe not. https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2023/10/26/brian-white-football-girls-golf
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Saw that when it came out . I also thought White would take another run with another program as he was certainly young enough . He had a great run and built a great program that pretty much everyone hated playing against 😆. Crabtree said it was like going to the dentist . As it started to dip just a bit I think he may have realized it would take a lot to build another program like that . I was hoping he came back because he’s so good at what he does even though I hated watching his product because he usually won against Coffman . The prime time and height of the great rivalry was 2001 through say 2012 but there was certainly some great ballgames and good teams between and for each respectively . The emotion passion and. buzz was real and the programs were top tier with Davidson top dog a couple years and Coffman being in the vicinity a couple years . White is an educator and was a great football coach and I’m sure he’s doing a good job with the girls
 
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