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All silliness aside which is fun , for me anyway, Glass is a good coach and by all accounts a good guy. The play on his name isn't a disrespect to his coaching ability and I always root for Jerome and Scioto that matter when they aren't playing Coffman. A curious situation if he wanted out of playing a district rival right when he gets there and it was decided on that spot two full years ago. . Interesting to hear the reason[s} if true and an AD going with it for obvious reason. Seems a no brainer to be a very long term rival situation with the positives that come along with it. Will miss this game not taking place this year and hope it comes back soon.

Browns Flacco is 5-0 in the wild card round and can set a record for road play-off wins in his career as well. QB's making their first play-off star the last couple decades are 17-35 ATS and Cleveland has a real opportunity to get a big play-off win. the home road dichotomy defensively is noted as it is so drastic . The Browns overall defense is very good as we know near the top or at the top in most categories. Part of the problem with the Browns on the road has been their offense throws more picks and fumbles a lot more on the road this season . The other massive road problem has been their propensity to give up a lot more explosive plays. It's just one of those things that I think is random and I think they can clean that up a bit here. Browns rested , Texans life and death to make the play-offs and may be a dropped pass away from losing last week. gave up huge rushing numbers to Indy last week. The Texans road to the play-offs down the stretch have faced poorly ranked defenses compared to the Browns including Arizona at 32nd , Cinci 28th Tennessee who they played twice 27th Denver 23rd and even Indy was only 20th. Browns is a step up in class as far as a defensive opponent. Most are looking OVER for obvious reason as the Browns are throwing it all over the yard and the Brownies defense road woes are well known. Browns, ML to get a couple more key stops on defense and defend Stroud fairly well.
 
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Are you ok? If they play they play again If not? They don't. If someone doesn't want it and he coaches for another decade over there and the AD's honor his request? they don't play unless it's the play-offs. So be it. I don't care about knowing the schedule two years in advance. I don't care that deeply whether they play or not. Just didn't make sense that a coach there for less than a year gets the say on who they play, never mind a district rival where the community interest is high is a great event and makes some money. It's the off-season. Kids as always are trusting the process working their butts off and aspiring to attain excellence. Enjoy the NFL games this weekend if you watch.
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There is no way Harry is a real person. This has to be some kind of AI thing built to clown on Yappi. No human being is like this.
 
Game could go over in the first half and the first half OV ER has cashed for us already. Still like the Browns to win but damn they just give up massive plays on the road. Wind may not be nearly the factor tonight in KC so still have Chiefs but mitigated the UNDER play with an OVER trying to middle it albeit a long shot . Terrible no call for the Browns where the defender got there a full second before the ball and no call. Hopefully the Browns cannot give up massive plays left and right and stay in this. Browns just almost gave up another big play TD as the blown coverage was helped by a slight overthrow by Stroud. Tunsil is getting out of his stance a half second before the ball is snapped on pass plays. Of course there is no call . The seem to let this happen more and more. Nojuku props looking good. Hunt TD prop is done already.

Welcome Insider. He seems to be a CO guy unlike some others who lurk about. Very impressive start here for this guy. Over the 15 years now that I have been posting in these spaces here and the old huddle, been obviously called a lot of things. That goes double on the toxic debate side as a minority poster. Just part of the deal there. And back in the day as many who read remember the Old Huddle discussions got heated sometimes. Not the weak pus22y pedantic respond to every post trolling like you see now mostly on the debate side, but some great arguments and disagreements. Most of us have mellowed and the older guys stopped posting a couple years after their kids got out of HS years ago now. But I must say I was never called 'Not Human" as Insider did. Great work and a very strong effort I must say. Props. Definitely one to keep an eye on and hope to see him contribute here on a regular basis as he unlike some actually know the CO football landscape and who knows how much he can contribute after that incredibly strong start. As an old Aussie collogue used to say sometimes " Good on Ya Mate" . Again welcome and thanks for reading and contributing.
 
Wow Browns with little discipline, getting fooled pretty easily by motion, fakes and overreacting giving up huge plays again. Browns have opportunity to make big plays, not getting the better of it right now from the refs in pass coverage but this is embarrassing. Lesser defenses have done much better staying home not trying to be a hero and just doing their jobs with less material than the Browns. . Browns have a really good defense but they are too aggressive for their own good and they are being pantsed here. Couple player props cashed and the first half over but damn the Browns giving up 24 in one half? Happy for Stroud but that little screen with two rushing the passer [One was supposed to be covering the guy who went 123 yards for the TD.
 
Many reasons for getting blown out but really hoping number 66 on the Browns OL never sees any playing time ever again. Just awful. Happy for CJ though.
 
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Wow Browns with little discipline, getting fooled pretty easily by motion, fakes and overreacting giving up huge plays again. Browns have opportunity to make big plays, not getting the better of it right now from the refs in pass coverage but this is embarrassing. Lesser defenses have done much better staying home not trying to be a hero and just doing their jobs with less material than the Browns. . Browns have a really good defense but they are too aggressive for their own good and they are being pantsed here. Couple player props cashed and the first half over but damn the Browns giving up 24 in one half? Happy for Stroud but that little screen with two rushing the passer [One was supposed to be covering the guy who went 123 yards for the TD.
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that was a tough one.... 286 yards given up in the first half to the texans.....:(
 
Player props and totals even with Cleveland losing was a nice positive result but really disappointed for Cleveland and some of my friends who are life long Browns fans . Browns laid an egg . But Texans seemed to want it just a bit more played incredibly hard and took advantage of ALL opportunities. Ironically a nice prop
that came in for me was Flacco at least one pick AND. OVER his passing yardage total as he went over 300 . Next year
 
KC takes care of business in a pretty much lock type situation with Miami's defense missing a half dozen guys and Tua and the team not being great in the cold. Had a large position on the UNDER at open, but took some of the OVER yesterday as the wind wasn't as bad and the Miami defense scared me thinking the Chiefs may score into the 30's. Well they came somewhat close but Miami did very little. Good day overall with player props and Browns totals first half and game. Browns making the play-offs was very commendable but that stink bomb takes a lot of that good feeling away no doubt. Kudos to the Texans though they came to play and were the better team all day.


Dallas - 7 down to - 1 and Pittsburgh + 10 to 16 when I thought the game was being played today in a storm but the right choice was made to postpone as the travel emergency would have made it impossible to get to the game. Buffalo lost 47 people in a similar storm last winter. No way they should have played that game today. Of course KC is the biggest beneficiary of the change as they will have two full days more rest .
 
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Player props and totals even with Cleveland losing was a nice positive result but really disappointed for Cleveland and some of my friends who are life long Browns fans . Browns laid an egg . But Texans seemed to want it just a bit more played incredibly hard and took advantage of ALL opportunities. Ironically a nice prop
that came in for me was Flacco at least one pick AND. OVER his passing yardage total as he went over 300 . Next year
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one thing not mentioned about NBC talking about the Texans being the youngest team in the nfl, and HOW THEY got to that point.... never mentioned, lots of help from the BROWNS and the trade for Watson... and they get another extra first round this coming draft...
 
They are young but the Packers are the youngest . Texans more blended with vets. You are 100 percent right Kat that trade was as bad as it gets interns of just really helping one team . At least so far but it will go down as probably one of the worst in quite some time.
 
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Seven games left this football season and it's a good thing on one hand as CBB league play is in full force and can be paid a lot of attention to and it's going very well so far [Not for OSU in league play unfortunately} but always a bit sad because we love it so much and it goes by so fast. Post mortem on the Browns season is mixed of course. Great job making the play-offs in a tough division and with a poor QB situation. Flacco was a tremendous story and got them to the play-offs with some big boy throws and his experience. It ended in a haze of blown coverage, poor coverage, weird long TD's with poor tackling, and road defense still a nightmare. Houston and Arizona were the odds-on favorites to win the least games this year. Arizona played to form for the most part but the Texans played so far above it's astonishing. New coach rookie QB? Stroud was scary good. They also had injuries that most teams wouldn't be able to deal with as well including Stroud missing a couple games. Myles Garrett was a no show dominated by Tunsil and the secondary was equally ineffective most of the day. Watson trade has been really good for the Texans and Watson bad karma continues. Can it be turned around? Jim Schwartz stock a bit down after the lack of adjustments and the horrible road home dichotomy.

As bad as the Browns were, the Cowboys embarrassed themselves more. no doubt. Won 16 games in a row at home averaging 37 and at one point were down 32 points at home vs. a 7 seed that albeit was pretty hot but also the youngest team in the league. The youngest team to win a play-off game in over 40 years. Had the Boys in a tease but that was the extent of that. Total was an easy over win, and player props were excellent in that game overall. Browns- Texans Browns totals as well.

Detroit - Rams was a case of playing the ML on Detroit vs. laying 3 in a razor close match-up or if you got the 3.5 with the Rams right at the open. Lost the OVER in the game but had the under in the second half after 38 points were scored in the first. Incredible that only 9 points were scored in the second half. Lions score 3 and STILL WIN? Incredible. Very interesting dynamics overall this past weekend with the swapped QB's playing each other in Detroit, the young old dynamic in Houston. Baker who is always interesting getting some career redemption vs. the sudden train wreck that became the Eagles defense and Hurts taking a couple steps backward. Hurts not healthy but how hurt was he? How good is he? Was last year a bit of a fluke with his team always getting the lead and the schedule was easy with the defense always ahead playing lesser QB's for the most part was awesome but this year a disaster? NO pass rush was a result of ? May be getting old all of a sudden? Playing better QB's on average? Schedule tougher? Losing their coordinators? Coach lost the team after they lost a few in a row. We knew they weren't a legit 10-1 team with a lot fo smoke mirrors and bounces. But this will be a memorable collapse culminating in as bad an effort as you will see in a play-off game with the poor tackling, lackadaisical angles being taken to the ball carries and receivers?

Speaking of effort, the Steelers gave a very good effort, as they competed really well after getting down big with turnovers and played really hard., but in the end they just aren't good enough at this point to be a real play-off force. Making the play-offs was awesome and Tomlin still hasn't had a losing season. A few fortunate wins early when they were getting outplayed and gained snap for snap but getting a few W'S anyway. KC was the largest play for me this weekend, Miami with 5-6 pretty key guys out on the defense playing in those conditions as the warmest weather team in the league. with a QB and a team overall that simply doesn't get it done when it's even moderate cold.

Interesting play-offs as the 2018 draft has 3 guys left in the play-offs. Baker was the top pick, no doubt over drafted, but still a franchise QB who is on his third team and his career was kind of hanging in the balance in terms of being a longer-term starter. Happy for him that he is solidifying that at least for now. He was pretty close to going to that perilous status as a career back-up. Sam Darnold was next, and he has found himself after a couple chances and on his third team in the position that Baker has avoided for now. Josh Allen was next, and he was flat out inaccurate when he came into the league but bucked the conventional wisdom that accuracy is something that doesn't drastically improve. He is still mistake prone, but his spectacular plays mostly make up for it over time. Former Coffman Rock and ND QB Brady Quinn had many of the attributes you need to be a starter in the league, but when the windows got a bit smaller in the NFL accuracy, timing anticipation and rhythm are key. Brady was a beat off and not accurate to be a longer-term starter in the league. Throwing guys open, anticipatory throwing and accuracy aren't skills and traits that many QB's have, and it separates the good from the better than good. If you have those skills and can make plays off platform athletically with escaping and throwing on the run, you get to the great level. HOF level with some help from your franchise and coaches. Josh Rosen had that timing accuracy and threw a pretty catchable ball wasn't a tough competitor and didn't deal with the inevitable earlier failures that most all have to go through at some point. Attitude was poor. The we come to Jackson picked at the end of the first round and has won most of his game as a starter. A great winning percentage by NFL standards but has only won one play-off game. Pressure? No doubt. He slipped because he was skinny and not polished quite yet throwing the football and scouts didn't know what to make of his future potential as a QB in the league. Outrageously athletic and gifted, but not sure how he would translate.

Coming into this weekend there are again some interesting QB dynamics. 7 of 8 are former first round draft picks. Two former number one's overall in Goff and Baker who were both perhaps a bit over drafted and were both moved on from by the teams that drafted them. Goff has landed on his feet quite well with the help from a very good job by the Lions front office the last few years and it appears that they got the right ' bite them in the kneecaps coach. Mahomes vs. Allen is a juicy match-up of former first rounders taken after guys that weren't as good as them. QB rivalry reminds me of Tom Brady- Peyton Manning back in the day.

Lamar vs Stroud to me is very interesting in the fact that one has a lot of pressure on him, and the other one is playing with his and your house money. He should just let it fly and go after it hard, early and let the chips fall and if it works out and they get a lead? More pressure on the Ravens who have been coming up a bit short the last handful of years. Really early but Stroud looks the part to a much larger degree and has performed much better than Young and it isn't surprising that frustration had the owner throwing a drink at a fan lol.

Love is playing at as high a level as anyone and is in his 4th year in that system and it took a while for him to 'Get It" while on the field. Game looks very slow for him now. He was fidgety, with quick feet but in a hurry in the first half of the season. John Wooden's axiom of being quick but don't hurry is apt here. Being quick and playing fast but in full control to make the right decisions and not be a bit out of control is key. Love still has the quick feet and escape ability, but it's more subtle, more controlled, a bit less frantic as he keeps eyes downfield longer and is able to accurately hit his receivers more often and throw less picks. The one non first rounder is Mr. Irrelevant Brock Purdy. He has had great moments and a few times of struggle. He has tremendous support though and he should be able to get some things done vs. this Packer defense who overperformed vs a skittish play-off time Dak. Initial thoughts were that the clock strikes midnight for the Bucs, Packers and Texans. Still think that to some degree and played an early teaser with Baltimore - 8.5 and Detroit - 5.5- 6. Lions beat the Bucs down there in comfortable fashion. The conditions will be comfortable for Detroit again at home in a controlled climate. Bucs had trouble scoring the couple weeks before playing the downtrodden free falling Eagles defense that played even worse than they had been. Had a nice position on the UNDER in the Bucs Eagles game because of the Bucs recent struggles on offense. Baker's health which had him walking around like a 75-year-old man the last couple weeks , and the Eagles offensive dysfunction with Brown at receiver. Never say TB scoring over 30 and miraculously the game stayed UNDER. Thanks Philly.
 
Interesting thoughts on another thread about where it is harder to coach, bigger schools, smaller schools more well off districts and less fortunate districts financially. There is no real argument for publics especially it is harder to win a state championship at the larger school levels as the Catholic super teams aren't seen at the lower levels where they just loaded. Max preps and a few other sources rate the toughest brackets in the country to win a state title and Ohio D-1 is always a top 5-6 nationally opinion and D-2 a few spots down from there. Winning a title isn't easy in any division ,but it is just a bit harder at the higher levels. As for coaching at a school that has more resources and dough, no doubt that is an advantage. Communities with more money have families that can better support their kids in they are interested in further higher-level training and being able to go to camps etc. .

Coach Stokes finished his third year at Coffman at 21-16 overall and 4-3 in the play-offs. First year was a massive rebuild and the overall talent level isn't what it had been in a large majority of the 20 years Coach Crabtree coached the Rocks. Football culture was stronger, the earlier success built on itself, but it must be noted that Coffman had a school split in 2004 and lost players to Jerome and it took a couple years and a really strong 2008 class that had a handful starting as Sophomores, a handful of D-1 athletes and many other good athletes overall. Kids didn't specialize quite as much and the run of at least good teams and all years under Crabtree were at least 6-4 and that was only one year at that mark in one of the first years post school split. Missed the 8 team play-offs only twice and both times it was by a very small Harbins margin coming in 10th both times.

The worst previous three year stretch the last two decades plus was a 21-12 mark from 2004- 2006 with two play-off wins. But again, that was back in the 8 team per region play-offs. Most give Coach Stokes a total pass in year one at 4-8 with a handful of blowout losses that fans of the program hadn't seen before. And they gave props for the big improvement in 2022. Disappointing play-off loss as a 17-point Louie favorite at home put a bit of a damper on that season. This past year with a lot of guys back had a nice play-off run after another 7-3 season with a couple narrow wins and three more decisive losses. Centerville was the best regular season win, Orange was the worst loss but they did have a handful of guys out with one getting hurt and done for the season during that game. A common theme in the 4 losses and one win was not scoring much if at all in the second half.

McKinley 24-14 loss started with a 14-0 Rocks lead. Orange game was just a debacle with the team getting outplayed in both half's, the UA game they only scored 3 total and in the Springfield game the second half became harder for the offense. Some of this is by design of running clock and being more conservative in managing the game sometimes. The other thing is the QB being a better runner than passer. The 21-20-win vs Davidson was the best example of being ultra conservative as the team built a 21-0 first half lead and then hung on for dear life as Davidson three the ball around and completed a ton of passes scoring 20 unanswered and almost won with the pass for 2 just missing and could have very easily been converted.

Stokes is 26-21 his last 4 seasons [5-6 at Minster in 2020}} and the next few years will be challenging at Coffman if he stays. Team has the offensive pieces to be good, QB position isn't set, but the unit has very good potential with multiple three-year starters back. Defense will be a work in progress with much less back. Could be a couple offensive players could possibly move to the other side of the ball, like a kind of stock portfolio of higher performing stocks being sold to a small degree and into lesser performing ones that are at a cheaper price and poised to improve. Adding a couple pieces from the offense to the defense or having a couple guys play both ways a bit to maximize assets.

Nailed player props last week winning most of them. Going back to the well this week picking on the Lions pass defense which especially in the slot id severely lacking. Nokua was on fire and went way over his total and I played a higher alternative total as well [123.5} Godwin of the Bucs will see similar converge this week and this is a game where the Lions may get a margin at some point and give up some yards in soft coverage. They paly kind of soft in closer conditions lol. Got Godwin at OVER 58.5 and is being bet up towards 62- 63 now. Lions have given up 411, 345, 396 and 367 passing yards in games the last month. Baker Mayfield looked healthier than he had the previous few weeks and even with the Eagles pulling a rare play-off no show was impressive and could have scored more if not for a couple big, dropped passes. fortunate for us with the UNDER lol. Mayfield passing yardage at 254.5 is 120 less than they have given up on average the last month. OVER for Baker. As part of the same thought process going UNDER on Tampa's Whites rushing total of 56.5 looks pretty good considering the Lions have a very stout run defense and haven't given up a 70 + yard rusher. Throwing on this team is the way to go for most teams with competent QB's.

Texans Singletary gets about 75 percent of the Texans rushing attempts and should get towards 20 carries possibly. Last 5 weeks the vaunted Ravens defense has kind of stunk vs. the run ranking 29th overall vs the rush and30th in yards per carry. Singletary has a nice burst and should get enough carries here to get OVER 56.5 yards.

Ravens use a cadre of backs and just signed Dalvin Cook . He would I would guess get at least a few carries. Gus Edwards is a decent back but his total against this Texans strong rushing defense is a bit high at 45.5 Browns averaged under 3 yards a rush. Edwards is likely projected at about 10 carries may be a few more depending on the pace and circumstances [Milking clock conservative with a lead etc.} I think. Will he average 4.5.
 
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Rocks looking for a 'Few" assistant football coaches. Contact Coach Stokes if you are interested. Continuity on the staff is important as we have seen with many programs that were consistently good the last few decades. Sharrett at PC White at HD Crabtree at DC , Hale at OL , Pentello at Westy South IB to name just a few. Hoping Coach Stokes finds a couple good coaches to add to the staff. I am sure AHM will be able to tell us who may be on the horizon to join the staff on Coffman road.

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Dublin Coffman High School is looking for a few assistant football coaches. Anyone interested should contact Geron Stokes at stokes_geron@dublinschools.net
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Harrycrane said:
Rocks looking for a 'Few" assistant football coaches. Contact Coach Stokes if you are interested. Continuity on the staff is important as we have seen with many programs that were consistently good the last few decades. Sharrett at PC White at HD Crabtree at DC , Hale at OL , Pentello at Westy South IB to name just a few. Hoping Coach Stokes finds a couple good coaches to add to the staff. I am sure AHM will be able to tell us who may be on the horizon to join the staff on Coffman road.

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Dublin Coffman High School is looking for a few assistant football coaches. Anyone interested should contact Geron Stokes at stokes_geron@dublinschools.net
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Coffman will have a full staff in 2024 and odds are they’ll do a really good job coaching.
 
Dallas got pasted last week and are keeping coach Mike McCarthy and I am sure they will continue to move the ball vs. most teams and win a lot in the regular season. There is a reason they have only won a handful of play-off games and played in a conference title game in the last almost 30 years. Average to slightly above coaches for the most part , a culture of comfort and having the best of everything facilities wise, an owner that gives you the world and more money than you might get. An owner that is too meddlesome Rich guys who are shrewd and capable think that translates to being really smart about everything and knowing more. Jerry is a great biz man and his franchise makes a ton of dough. A successful franchise is most ways. Except on the field in the play-offs. They had a Bill Parcells who was past his prime and needed more than 3 years and he didn't have that luxury. Garett was given about 3-4 more years than he should have been afforded. McCarthy is a good solid coach but not elite. He isn't what the franchise needs to get mentally tougher.

Too much money for the QB who is above average but not great. A dynamic that rears it's head every so often at play-off time is key coordinators interviewing during the time they should be focused on the play-off game they are preparing for. Dan Quinn made zero adjustments last week and his Cowboys defense was horrible last week. Wide open receivers left and right, no adjustment to stopping the run where they got gashed [ Stayed with mainly a 5 and even 6 DB look that made it hard to defend the run and never really tweaked it} We have a similar situation this week with OC Ben Johnson of the Lions involved in the interview circuit. Like the Lions to win and have them in the teaser at -5.5 with Baltimore at open [ - 8.5} . Gives you pause no question and while I think TB is just a bit above average on a good day and the last 3-4 games were just ok overall as that inflated performance was vs. an Eagles team that a mess. Looking at some Lions props to move a bit. OVER 48.5 was reasonable.

First game today the Ravens TE situation is clearer as Andrews isn't going it appears and the other TE Likely should go over 37.5 yards receiving. Rain is almost assured during tonight's Niner Packers game and even on a dry track I was leaning McCaffrey to have a big day as he gets healthier and to do what Dallas couldn't do, and that's have a quality RB to take advantage of a softer Packers second level defense. His rushing total is 92.5 and his attempts is 18.5. Rain, trying to control the game and keep the ball out of the hot Packers offenses hands? I could see McCaffrey getting the Rock at about a 19- 22 carry clip and get a bit over 100 yards with may be one Home-run long run.

A trend that is interesting in the first game this weekend and doesn't come up often but in a longer time frame, Teams that win a wild card game as a home UNDERDOG, going on the road the next week are 0-13 straight up and a terrible 1`-12 against the number. Houston qualifies today.

Been very fortunate over the last few years playing George Kittle player props mainly OVER, and today he could be a good security blanket and the GB defense that may give up some token receptions to nullify bigger plays downfield and Kittle at 4.5 catches could get closer to about 6 catches and his receiving total at 52.5 could include one 20 + reception where the Packers can't tackle him in the secondary as has been the case a time or two the last few years.
 
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Dallas got pasted last week and are keeping coach Mike McCarthy and I am sure they will continue to move the ball vs. most teams and win a lot in the regular season. There is a reason they have only won a handful of play-off games and played in a conference title game in the last almost 30 years. Average to slightly above coaches for the most part , a culture of comfort and having the best of everything facilities wise, an owner that gives you the world and more money than you might get. An owner that is too meddlesome Rich guys who are shrewd and capable think that translates to being really smart about everything and knowing more. Jerry is a great biz man and his franchise makes a ton of dough. A successful franchise is most ways. Except on the field in the play-offs. They had a Bill Parcells who was past his prime and needed more than 3 years and he didn't have that luxury. Garett was given about 3-4 more years than he should have been afforded. McCarthy is a good solid coach but not elite. He isn't what the franchise needs to get mentally tougher.

Too much money for the QB who is above average but not great.
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I disagree about the Cowboys future outlook. They have no choice but to extend Prescott, his current $59 mil cap hit is a killer. The Cowboys also have to do something with Lamb and Parsons who will be wanting top at their position $$$; probably $120 mil over 4 years for each. The Cowboys 2024 salary cap of $242 mil (which they are currently over by $18 mil) couod have 1/4 to 1/3 of it taken up by 3 players: Prescott, Lamb & Parsons.

Need a RB, DT and a ILB - though to count on rookies filling in those gaps. I think the Cowboys down a notch, their saving grace is their division stinks: Giants & Washington are horrible and who knows what is going on in Philly.
 
I think we are in agreement actually . Just said Prescott takes up too much money but I realize they can’t move off of him . I see the same or a bit of a falloff next year . Tom Brady won more playoff games in Tampa than the Cowboys have won in decades .
 
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I think we are in agreement actually . Just said Prescott takes up too much money but I realize they can’t move off of him . I see the same or a bit of a falloff next year . Tom Brady won more playoff games in Tampa than the Cowboys have won in decades .
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I’d guess the # of wins over/under for Dallas in 2024 will be 10.5 or 11. I’d probably take the under. Dak, Lamb & Parson were all healthy in 2023, unlikely to be as fortunate in 2024
 
Clock strike midnight for the Texans and Packers ? Packers defense doesn’t match up very well with SF and Baltimore more than any other year has gotten consistent margins even against other playoff teams
 
Baltimore was a big winner for most heavier players yesterday as Houston was simply overmatched. That punt return and their heavy first half pass rush gave some pause but over 60 minutes the Ravens were going to have too much, and their defense was very solid in the first half and there was no reason to think they wouldn't continue to win the battles up front and in coverage. Stroud has a great future in front of him and that fan base should be excited no doubt. Baltimore in a teaser with Detroit today gotten early at 8.5 and Detroit at - 5.5, but also grabbed a heavier juiced 7 point with the Ravens and Niners who barely got there. This was a dead even game. Both had FGs missed, , yardage was close and TOP was really close. The difference? Two turnovers and a couple Packers defensive mistakes. Kittle in man to man with no help vs. and overmatched defender equaled a nice pitch and catch long TD. And McCaffrey got loose on a longer run after the safety whiffed on the tackle that should have been about a 6–7-yard gain. Missed opportunities and getting the break of Deebo Samuel the match-up nightmare and couldn't take advantage. McCaffrey didn't get to 19 carries [17} but went over his yardage prop and Kittle didn't get 5 catches [ 4 with a drop on that last drive} but easily went over his yardage and alternate higher yards better payback as well [ 76.5} . Jayden Reed went over 3.5 [ 4} catches . Love went UNDER unfortunately his passing totals. Game stayed UNDER as the rain seemed to be a bigger factor for Purdy throwing accuracy and Samuel's injury also hurt the Niners offense, got there with a total teaser though barely [50.5 TO 44.5} along with Ravens Texans UNDER 43.5 to 37.5.

Tampa Bay blitzes at a top 4 rate in the NFL. But they only have a 26th ranked pressure rate. They stuff the run pretty well though. Got Gibbs at UNDER 47.5 rushing yards [Now 44-45.5} and think he will be limited in carries with Montgomery taking his share. His receiving number is 23.5 and I will go OVER that, as he is dangerous and it may just take one wheel route down the field or swing pass plant the foot and go upfield quickly type reception.

Goff should get over 277.5 yards against the blitz happy Bucs and his a few big chunks if not a long home run at some point [Jamison Williams ?} St Brown is a hot prop bet guy the last month or so for good reason. He's had a great year and is a really good player. Total in this game near 50 teased down with KC+ 2.5- 3 UP TO 8.5-9 in what looks to be a good match-up especially considering the Bills injury's in the middle of the field on defense. Pacheco over 62.5 yards rushing Rice to get to at least 72 yards receiving, I like Diggs to be a factor with Buffalo after a few play-off opportunities have been missed utilizing him. His total is 59.5. Pacheco at+ 275 to score a TD total yards at 82.5 for Pacheco looks valuable as well. . Mahomes threw 41 passes last week but had the ball 34 minutes. He won't have the ball that long today and his attempts number was 37.5 I like the total to be closer to 30 than 40 here. Kelce to go over 60 yards and Diggs to et over 5.5 receptions. Diggs likely will get a 2-3 long hand-off like receptions out wide and that will leave him only a few catches downfield to get over this. Kelce will have a back-up or two covering him at times and he will take advantage.

Passing attempts in the Lions -Bucs games should be high both ways. Run games should take a back seat [If it was on old station wagon the way back seat. }
 
TB and Detroit passing attempts both fly over, combined passing yards easy OVER. The Over, Detroit - 5.5 teaser and 6.6 flat, ML parlay with SF. Pacheco TD and yardage props along with Kelce yardage and overall eating well lol. KC Teaser was money. A handful of misses but overall a really nice weekend.

Buffalo defensive injuries were too much to overcome but it must be said their defensive front didn't do enough to try to compensate for the LB injuries and didn't do enough to help the team and make a bigger difference. Diggs was a loser and his catch total fell short as did his overall performance as his not coming down with that best pass thrown all night by Allen was almost an adios Buffalo, I'm a diva and I can't come up with that throw? Diggs time should be done now. Allen for only the second time in his career didn't complete a pass for over 20 yards . KC was obviously vulnerable vs. the run but their cover 2 bend don't break defense was effective. Allen only averaged 4.8 and attempt. KC was so efficient and didn't have the ball long but averaged a ton of yards per play. KC won't be as lucky this week facing a more healthy better defense. Miami was missing 6 Buffalo 5. If Mahomes can go to Baltimore adn get that job done? Hats off. KC plays in this game every year at this point. On the road for the first time. Seems like Baltimore's year. Grabbed the Ravens at - 3 quickly.

Detroit on the other hand is in this particular situation for only the second time in franchise history. Yes you read that right. Detroit isn't an expansion franchise lol. Happy for the folks up there and the two Lions families I know. Dads grew up the actual fan's, the wives and children are now stronger fans lol. Just gave up another easy completion to Mike Evans [had his yardage total} a second ago. Detroit defense may be in trouble this week. Early forecast is clear and no rain, but that could change. But the Niners have the firepower to really hammer them with a more elite run game with a home run threat. Now Samuel availability is a massive X factor. That guy makes that offense go in terms of match-up issues and opening up other talented guys to hit on bigger plays. Detroit is a great story and their offensive line is outstanding. They have an accurate experienced QB and really nice weapons [St Brown again cashes his props} and their defensive front can get after you. Hutchinson is a beast.
 
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As expected, Jim Harbaugh is taking over in LA with the Chargers. Took him a little longer to do what he does which is to disrupt the order of things wherever he goes. San Fran hadn't had a winning season in 8 years. Stanford before that was a doormat. Beat USC as a 37-point dog early on and WITH Andrew Luck got the team to a more national level. Then after SF Michigan came calling and it did take him a few years to figure out to beat OSU and become more a national power that wins bowl games. Overtook OSU as top dog and won a Natty. He will turn this team around that did make the play-offs last year losing a huge lead but it's been an iffy culture and Staley obviously wasn't head coach MATERIAL And didn't even get his side of the ball right as the defense was softer against the run and couldn't get off the field a lot of the time.

Michigan will be rebuilding to an extent, but the cupboard isn't empty. You have to think Alabama may be done as a consistent top 1- 4 team going forward after the legend left. They got a great coach but the transfers and the lack of real big boy money down there to entice enough players who are looking to get the big NIL money to come to Tuscaloosa surely will be detrimental to their being a top dog I would think. Speaking of deeper pockets and a program having a better off season? OSU is killing it in the transfer portal / kids staying with the program and the team talent wise is 'LOADED". I don't like to use that term loosely. But it certainly applies to the 2024 Buckeyes. Some of the draft boards ranking had as many as 10 Buckeyes in the top 100. Of those consensus top 10 Bucks, 7 return to the program. Egbuka, Burke , Tuimoloau, Henderson, Jackson [Guard } , Sawyer and Williams [DT} . QB room is stacked with 4 and 5 star guys. Transfer Howard was a 4 star with K-State experience and production. Devin Brown and Kienholz coming back are both 4 stars and newest guys Air Noland and Justin Sayin the Bama commit are 5 star kids. Got a text the other day concerning St. Clair of Bellefontaine and if I had heard or did anyone tell me anything more than a rumor on what the kid may do his Senior year. Well I had three guys months ago that said they heard he may be heading to CO and one of them said he heard Coffman was a possible destination. The other two named other schools and some speculated Springfield made sense since they needed a QB. One opined Westy North , but like Gahanna with the coach's son being the QB and a year left that ruled them out. Another text told me that he has strong ties to his hometown which was pretty well known the last couple years. He will be loyal to that program and seeing the support from the family of the newly named HC out there? He will remain there and be loyal is what this person said. Never said he was coming here nor do I care if he does tbh. Some decent sources said they heard some things. Good luck to him whatever he chooses. He will be in a crowded QB room in 2025 no doubt. Those 5 guys will not all be there then of course, but he will have his worked cut out for him as most all QB signees have at OSU.

Got the Ravens at - 3 at open and like them to get over that hump with Jackson at QB to advance to the big one. Houston got that punt return for a TD to tie it at the half that I am sure made the fans nervous. The Texans were in the bottom 5 of defenses in blitz percentage. They crossed up the Ravens and blitzed 73 percent of the snaps in the first half. The Ravens didn't adjust well on the fly but surely had some great answers in the second half. Their defense was outstanding especially in the second half and that game was a no heavy lifting for the entire second half. The Chiefs getting big props for getting their mostly underperforming. offense for much of the year back on track the last 3 weeks. Well looking at the Bengals game in the regular season they were going against a bottom tier defense that didn't match up well with them. Miami was without 6 starters on defense and the game was played in North Pole conditions against the warmest weather team in the league. Bills were playing with two less days rest and a defense that was also shorthanded with 5 guys compromised including as we noted last week really hurting in the middle of the field at the second level especially and was the reason we loved Pacheco and Kelce to have big games and they did. Ravens have one more day of rest and prep time and the Ravens are much healthier, are at home with a nice HF edge, and the middle of the field they cover really well. They can rush just 4 and limit time for the QB. The Ravens LB's are much better than what the Bills had out there On Sunday. Smith and Queen bring the juice, inside and Safety/ Nickel slot Hamilton is as good as anyone at that position and matches up with Kelce much better. and no one gets as many hats to the ball as consistently as the Ravens do. Ravens thinks this defense has Ray Lewis like 'Juice". KC gave up the run and the short stuff on defense vs. Allen and the Bills and it worked. Cover 2 a majority of the time and no big plays given up. Mahomes being 9-1 as an underdog is concerning but the Ravens have been unprecedented in winning games by 14 + over nine winning teams. NIIIINNNNEEE TIMES. 14 plus may not happen, but a healthy Ravens team needs to win here and I think it's their year. If not now? When?

Still going back and forth on the other game, but suffice to say looking a little harder at how leaky the Lions defense has been vs. the pass , along with TB running it better than most thought gives you pause even getting the 6.5-7. Lions have been outgained yardage wise and yards per play wise the last two weeks vs. the Rams and Bucs at home. Purdy has had two really poor games accuracy wise and both were played in the rain. The Cleveland game up there, and last week. His smaller hands isn't helpful for his ability to play in those conditions. Forecast looks good this Sunday in the Bay area. Deebo health is huge, but it must be said if he can't go this week it will be easier to go without him having time to re-game plan. They had to on-the-fly last week and it didn't go that well unsurprisingly knowing how much he means to the offense as such a versatile playmaker..
 
In 2020 (Covid year), UM was 2-4, went winless at home and took their worse home loss in school history. UM tapped out vs OSU that year due to a Covid outbreak on their team. I would guess OSU was a 17+ pt favorite if that game had been played. At this time Harbaugh was winless vs OSU (0-5) and I think he was either winless or only had 1 win vs Michigan St. If the 2020 OSU-UM game had occurred and say the Bucks put a 49-14 type beatdown on UM, would Harbaugh had survived to be UM’s coach for 2021? Regardless, Harbaugh had to take a pay cut in 2021 to remain, he ran off 3 great year with the final one being a national Championship.

Crazy how things could have been completely different just on the outcome of one game that never happen.
 
As you can see the guy who says he’s a UA resident and fan turned Coffman supporter who starts threads named Coffman football that is supposed to be a Rocks football only thread fir the true fans of the program. K. Anything they posted yesterday has already been posted here and in more depth . It will eventually as it has in the past couple years devolve into a troll thread of this space . It’s the off-season and not much going on and I’ve certainly posted pertinent information concerning next years team and offered assessments on what happened this year . So another thread is fine and you won’t have to read anything else besides 24-7 Coffman football apparently . Some insiders may give info on weight room activity because they hang around and or work there . Not interesting to me but maybe to some . The last couple years of Crabtrees years showed a diva prima Donna really tarnishing the team concept and a very involved Dad whose son was as hard working as anyone in the program being a presence that some didn’t like . Also the smaller percentage of snobby (. Kind of racist ) residents didn’t like a kid coming from the city league with a rougher past who turned out to be a really good teammate , tough competitor and a hard worker . So the crux of this “. Now we have a great culture stuff from some is reacting to and defining the entire Crabtree 20 year era by the last couple years one being a COVID season and the challenges that were inherent with working out and having a normal season with a fairly loaded team . What we last saw affects some and skews a more longer term perception of a team , a program , and many situations .

Stokes is a great builder of a culture that is based on training as much as possible year round . That’s great . It helps get the most of players . Maybe the modest improvement in the regular season from 2022 to 2023 with all that experience back was that he got most of what he could from the 2022 team and there wasn’t much further to go ? 10 wins on its face suggests a large improvement from the previous year with a lot of the same kids playing key roles .

But snap for snap game for game the numbers and production don’t show a big leap at all playoff wins notwithstanding . Winning really close games against decent teams (. Liberty finished 4-8 albeit with a really challenging schedule and a first year HC although hired from within and a 500 Fairmont team ) in games they got early leads and held on for dear life not doing much in the second half . It was a kind of year long modus operandi. Low second half offensive production being really really conservative sometimes worked in some games . Rocks played well vs. Berlin but if veteran QB Brewster had played it would have gone down to the wire imo at least .

None of this is an indictment on the coaching staff but rather that maybe this was as much as you could get and the bigger improvement was getting to the 2022 level from the 2021 level and there wasn’t much more room to go production wise . What is known is that modus operandi may not be as successful due to the defense being rebuilt . The offense probably can’t sit on leads in that way in 2024 . Offense may have to become more dynamic . There are pieces in place that make that a possibility . Experience is present . Kids who have produced are back . The big question is what is going to be the QB situation. Hart was very productive especially running but was competent enough throwing to keep defenses somewhat honest. May be they follow a similar path with a QB in house (. Scholl) with some of that skill set ? Time will tell .
 
Love to see the snowflakes on the newly formed Coffman thread who are "thanking God ", [ayfkm} they don['t have to see anything besides off -season Dublin Coffman or HS football talk. Deeply offended and some whining for two years now about it. Many don't really care about Coffman or even CO football but are affected enough to comment on their dissatisfaction and are offended over mainstream football talk? You will eventually see it become only a troll this thread space. It's already off to a good start. One snowflake who has bene complaining and commenting on what shouldn't be here for over two years now already chimed in, the newest snowflake thanking god came after the much more established whiner and troll. There has been adn always will be more DC talk here than there. What's already been posted there has already been discussed here the last couple months in more detail. I mean the guy who started the thread didn't even know Chuck Kyle retired. He isn't a long time Coffman fan or really know too much about them. You will see him and a couple others who complains all the time and was NEVER known as a Coffman fan by those who read his posts for a long time, UNTIL Crabtree left. He was only a critic. Period. Posted a time or two a YEAR to be negative for over a decade. Now he loves the program with all of his heart and always will? He certainly hasn't loved it in the past. Not here anyway. JUST NEGATIVE.

So here we are with two threads , and you will only see Coffman football and nothing else over there I'm told. OK. It's been less than 24 hours and it's already been as much talking shots at this thread. That is also OK. It's people who know little to nothing about the area or care for that matter. They seem to care about what's posted in this space for some reason though. Hmm . The Insider I surmised is from this area and knows things, but he's offended by anything else not directly related to Coffman football ? Sorry you're offended dude, I thought after your good start of calling me not human which was really strong and funny at the same time, you might actually contribute some good CO stuff. If the legal mainstream betting and handicapping talk is offensive? College football talk? Any pop culture references? Avert your eyes. LOL Don't read . But you will still see more Coffman and CO football talk here and it will be more substantive. Louie Pasteur spreads will still be included in CO games [65 percent this year, a new high in the many years doing it} if that isn't something interesting to anyone? Post a complaint or crying emoji and or don't read as a protest.

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Got Baltimore at - 3 at open, and they have been the more consistent team certainly this year, blowing more winning teams out [14+ points} than anyone else adn KC as mentioned before only recently picked up the pace on offense and that isn't as impressive as I stated yesterday due to the opponents faced at that time. Hill should be the main RB over Edwards this week for Baltimore. His receiving yardage prop was at just 11.5 and he is averaging more than that the last month and the KC defense is giving up 38 yards receiving to backs the last 5 weeks. His combined 48.5 yardage prop [33.5 yards rushing} looks valuable here. You can run a bit on KC and he should get more carries than Edwards at this point. He's just been the better back and more productive. KC has given up 13 or more receiving yards to backs 10 of the last 11 games to RB's [15 total} Hill is averaging over 5 yards a carry and could get about 10 carries.

KC pass defense is outstanding and rarely gives up passing TD's. and even the one they gave up last week to Allen was a needle in a haystack laser inside the pylon in really tight coverage. Jackson will have a good game most likely but getting 2 TD passes isn't something that I think will happen. Leaning towards to a lower scoring game in this one. UNDER 1.5 TD passes.

Baltimore is also very good vs. the pass but in their only 4 losses they have been gashed a bit on he ground . Given up 100 yards by 5 different backs. The games with the 4 heaviest rushing attempts by their opponents and yards? All losses. KC is smart and they should know the best path to victory is grind it out more than usual, more attempts and help the defense. Pacheco is running well , running angry and we cashed in on that last week with him. 14.5 attempts is a nice OVER value. 63.5 yards if he gets that level of work should equal an OVER that number.

Going back a couple years in this space Kittle numbers going up and cashing when Samuel isn't available has mostly been money. He's gone over this number {61.5 } 5 of 6 times when Samuel isn't playing. He should play some but could be more of a decoy and even if he is more of a presence? Last handful of TE's [All lesser players} vs. the Lions have gotten really close to this number. Kittle should have a couple chunk plays { 17-23 or more} and enough yardage on a couple other receptions. McCaffrey is a great player no doubt, we all know that, and he's usually been a go to OVER guy cashing over 60 percent of the time but this week the Lions are really weak vs. the pass as we know but very good against the run not giving up more than 70 to any back. Christian's number is 87.5 I think he goes UNDER and we will probably hold our breath hoping he doesn't break a long one although we like the Niners - 6.5 which is now 7- 7.5. His overall yardage may be inflated as the Lions may get torched by receivers and TE's but not RB's.

SF defense checks in at only 14th overall in yards allowed to TE's and 21st in receptions allowed to TE's. Laporta as many of us saw a handful of times at Iowa is an outstanding young player and came back last week and was targeted 11 times last week. His yardage at 48.5 could be eclipsed due to the fact that the Lions may be behind and have to throw more than usual and the Niners may give up some 'free " yards at some point to keep the clock the clock running, and Laporta is a perfect guy to get that extra 20 yards late so to speak to get the quasi backdoor OVER. He may not need that scenario but as a possibility it makes it more valuable. Still digging for a few more.
 
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Love to see the snowflakes on the newly formed Coffman thread who are "thanking God ", [ayfkm} they don['t have to see anything besides off -season Dublin Coffman or HS football talk. Deeply offended and some whining for two years now about it. Many don't really care about Coffman or even CO football but are affected enough to comment on their dissatisfaction and are offended over mainstream football talk? You will eventually see it become only a troll this thread space. It's already off to a good start. One snowflake who has bene complaining and commenting on what shouldn't be here for over two years now already chimed in, the newest snowflake thanking god came after the much more established whiner and troll. There has been adn always will be more DC talk here than there. What's already been posted there has already been discussed here the last couple months in more detail. I mean the guy who started the thread didn't even know Chuck Kyle retired. He isn't a long time Coffman fan or really know too much about them. You will see him and a couple others who complains all the time and was NEVER known as a Coffman fan by those who read his posts for a long time, UNTIL Crabtree left. He was only a critic. Period. Posted a time or two a YEAR to be negative for over a decade. Now he loves the program with all of his heart and always will? He certainly hasn't loved it in the past. Not here anyway. JUST NEGATIVE.

So here we are with two threads , and you will only see Coffman football and nothing else over there I'm told. OK. It's been less than 24 hours and it's already been as much talking shots at this thread. That is also OK. It's people who know little to nothing about the area or care for that matter. They seem to care about what's posted in this space for some reason though. Hmm . The Insider I surmised is from this area and knows things, but he's offended by anything else not directly related to Coffman football ? Sorry you're offended dude, I thought after your good start of calling me not human which was really strong and funny at the same time, you might actually contribute some good CO stuff. If the legal mainstream betting and handicapping talk is offensive? College football talk? Any pop culture references? Avert your eyes. LOL Don't read . But you will still see more Coffman and CO football talk here and it will be more substantive. Louie Pasteur spreads will still be included in CO games [65 percent this year, a new high in the many years doing it} if that isn't something interesting to anyone? Post a complaint or crying emoji and or don't read as a protest.

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Got Baltimore at - 3 at open, and they have been the more consistent team certainly this year, blowing more winning teams out [14+ points} than anyone else adn KC as mentioned before only recently picked up the pace on offense and that isn't as impressive as I stated yesterday due to the opponents faced at that time. Hill should be the main RB over Edwards this week for Baltimore. His receiving yardage prop was at just 11.5 and he is averaging more than that the last month and the KC defense is giving up 38 yards receiving to backs the last 5 weeks. His combined 48.5 yardage prop [33.5 yards rushing} looks valuable here. You can run a bit on KC and he should get more carries than Edwards at this point. He's just been the better back and more productive. KC has given up 13 or more receiving yards to backs 10 of the last 11 games to RB's [15 total} Hill is averaging over 5 yards a carry and could get about 10 carries.

KC pass defense is outstanding and rarely gives up passing TD's. and even the one they gave up last week to Allen was a needle in a haystack laser inside the pylon in really tight coverage. Jackson will have a good game most likely but getting 2 TD passes isn't something that I think will happen. Leaning towards to a lower scoring game in this one. UNDER 1.5 TD passes.

Baltimore is also very good vs. the pass but in their only 4 losses they have been gashed a bit on he ground . Given up 100 yards by 5 different backs. The games with the 4 heaviest rushing attempts by their opponents and yards? All losses. KC is smart and they should know the best path to victory is grind it out more than usual, more attempts and help the defense. Pacheco is running well , running angry and we cashed in on that last week with him. 14.5 attempts is a nice OVER value. 63.5 yards if he gets that level of work should equal an OVER that number.

Going back a couple years in this space Kittle numbers going up and cashing when Samuel isn't available has mostly been money. He's gone over this number {61.5 } 5 of 6 times when Samuel isn't playing. He should play some but could be more of a decoy and even if he is more of a presence? Last handful of TE's [All lesser players} vs. the Lions have gotten really close to this number. Kittle should have a couple chunk plays { 17-23 or more} and enough yardage on a couple other receptions. McCaffrey is a great player no doubt, we all know that, and he's usually been a go to OVER guy cashing over 60 percent of the time but this week the Lions are really weak vs. the pass as we know but very good against the run not giving up more than 70 to any back. Christian's number is 87.5 I think he goes UNDER and we will probably hold our breath hoping he doesn't break a long one although we like the Niners - 6.5 which is now 7- 7.5. His overall yardage may be inflated as the Lions may get torched by receivers and TE's but not RB's.

SF defense checks in at only 14th overall in yards allowed to TE's and 21st in receptions allowed to TE's. Laporta as many of us saw a handful of times at Iowa is an outstanding young player and came back last week and was targeted 11 times last week. His yardage at 48.5 could be eclipsed due to the fact that the Lions may be behind and have to throw more than usual and the Niners may give up some 'free " yards at some point to keep the clock the clock running, and Laporta is a perfect guy to get that extra 20 yards late so to speak to get the quasi backdoor OVER. He may not need that scenario but as a possibility it makes it more valuable. Still digging for a few more.
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