Beat up Avon? You must have been to a different game. The game was back and forth all game long with Avon deep in Glenville territory at the end when the Tarblooders sealed the win with a goal line int. That all being said, I expect them to beat a very good Wyoming team for their first state title.
D IV State Semi-Final: Steubenville (12-2) vs Wyoming (14-0)
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RollRedBuckeye
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He was talking about Steubenville, not Wyoming. Go to almost any Steubenville thread and you will see the same comment by the clown Maple City Fan. Loves to troll Big Red.
pup pounder
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I'm convinced that any school that fully utilizes open enrollment will beat a closed enrollment school 95% of the time. They draw more athletes, it's that simple. I'm speaking of the volume vs attrition sports, mainly football.
RollRedBuckeye
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He’s talking about #24 not the WR. And yes, the WR was invited to a Kentucky game this year so I would consider visiting an SEC school D1 interest.
Now, the fact that we never really threw a jump ball to him when he had a 5’9” corner covering him is a different discussion entirely.
RollRedBuckeye
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I think some of that depends on the talent pool you have to draw from. It’s advantageous for all OE schools but when you a pulling from Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton, etc it’s different than the Ohio Valley and other areas. More talent available in larger areas.
pup pounder
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I don't know the facts but it sounds like this academy has opened a whole new can of worms. I heard some of the Steubenville/Wyoming game on the radio. It sounds like there were two evenly matched teams that played their hearts out. Steubenville will be back, no doubt about that.
RollRedBuckeye
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Agreed
RollRedBuckeye
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Pretty sure blocking and tackling count as contributions, right? Pretty sure special teams mean a little too.
We DO Not have everyone back next year but the cupboards aren’t bare either. By my count we are losing about 6 starters on both sides of the ball. We have several sophomores and juniors who saw a lot of playing time. We will be back!
This is far from the truth
RollRedBuckeye
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I hope he does. However, it will be an uphill battle competing with a Sr. That is if they even let them compete.
pup pounder
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Not trying to argue, I'm open minded.
But, please explain how you disagree. I guess this should be on another thread too.
I don't know if that was Ted Ginn's original intent. Because I don't know him. But the result of what he did is this: Kids that go to the Ginn academy can play football elsewhere because the Ginn academy does not offer football. Of course, most of the "good players" from the Ginn Academy go to Glenville for football. The kicker is this; the kids that go to the Academy are not counted towards Glenvilles enrollment because they "technically" don't attend Glenville school. Although they play football for Glenville! It's a legal and unfair loophole that allows what is basically a D-1 or D-2 school to play in Division 4. It's crazy!
Just to be example, and probably more but WGH is open enrollment, and Hudson is closed enrollment, and WGH hasn't beat them once, in the last 10 years.
pup pounder
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Yes, but Warren is a economical depressed city where as, Hudson is a well to do growing district. There are a few, Avon, Jackson,Hudson, ect. That have done well. But look how Hoban handled Hudson. They can do well against decaying cities but are no match for the schools that draw from larger talent pools. That's not to say that Warren won't have the occasional great team, but you have to admit that's few and far between.
pup pounder
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Is Wyoming opened or closed enrollment?
Yes, very true, but I guess the situation hits home for me, since I'm a Harding fan, so I use that example, but Harding just is not benefiting from open enrollment. In fact WGH isn't even keeping the city kids, some are going to Warren JFK.
It's a public school but you have to live in the Wyoming community to go there.
pup pounder
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That's very unfortunate. Warren is a has a proud history of excellence. Unfortunately it's happening all over. Canton is one that comes to mind. I think if you get the right person or coach, they can still turn it around and keep some of those kids that are leaving and start drawing others in. It takes a total recreation of the culture. I've seen it being a Massillon fan. But even if you revive your system it's still difficult to compete with the private machines.
pup pounder
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So Wyoming is a closed enrollment school. I'm really rooting for you guys. But you are facing a machine.
doubtme
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No I believe they are a public charter school. And I think the rule is the kids have to play at the home school if the charter doesn't offer sports. That is the rule to my knowledge.
You may want to check that. There are nearly 100's of threads with complaints about the Ginn Academy, and how they cirvumvent the system and be able to be D-4.
doubtme
“The harder we played the behinder we got.”
It doesn't mean they are right
cpagan42
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closed. the schools are ranked in the top-5 in OH, and if we had open enrollment we'd be in d3 or d2.
If Glenville does indeed roll Wyoming, a very good if not great D4 program, then this model needs to be squashed and reworked. For teams like Stubenville and Wyoming to do everything the right way and work their asses to a state title run, only to be met by a football factory in the final is just wrong. I have not seen Glenville play, but everything I am reading says they are going to roll Wyoming and that would be a shame because Wyoming is a legit D4 team..
What makes you think I'm a steubenville fan? I don't care that Steubenville lost, so I can laugh with you. I never once said Steubenville would win, hust said they would score on that stellar D, lol, and they did. Glenville gonna embarass Wyoming,as they would have to Steubenville to.
So you're just a professional troll then. Got it! And you didn't say they would just score. You specifically said they would score 4 touchdowns! They didn't. You were wrong. Now pay 4GX his money. (BTW nobody is expecting any D-4 school to beat Glenville) Myself included.
Wyoming is a public school with no open enrollment. I would love to know how many kids from Wyoming end up going to GCL schools. And to someone else's point, Wyoming is a great school district academically.
You going to man up and pay your bet?