COLLEGE FOOTBALL 2024-2025

14Red said:
I'm a casual college football fan. However, I'll hop on here occasionally and post some thoughts about the season. First of all, I hate the playoffs system, I don't like conference realignment, the NIL and players constantly transferring. To me it's terrible for the game and overall makes the product worse. But I will say that I watched the FSU / Georgia Tech game and I guess my interest will be more in random games. Who knows how the season will turn out, but it's going to be a long stretch to all Florida State a top 10 team. To me, the problem is the preseason poll is a product of the media. I'm almost sure that a team's popularity has alot to with rankings. There's really no other explanation on the consistency that FSU loses early in the season. They are always way overrated. They've not had a QB since Charlie Ward and just because they are FSU, they get early votes for polls?? Why?
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Apparently you didn’t watch any college football last year
 
14Red said:
BTW, the Coach Prime rift with the reporter is kind of interesting. I mean is there another coach in all of sports who could get away with what Sanders gets away with? No one has ever held that guy down. He just does this thing and because he was a great athlete, no one says a word. Here is where we are at in big time college sports now. The president or AD has no control over Sanders. He makes the school and the football program look silly and no one cares. It's the media's fault.
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You may want to look into this topic. It goes way deeper than just asking questions at a news conference
 
14Red said:
I'm a casual college football fan. However, I'll hop on here occasionally and post some thoughts about the season. First of all, I hate the playoffs system, I don't like conference realignment, the NIL and players constantly transferring. To me it's terrible for the game and overall makes the product worse. But I will say that I watched the FSU / Georgia Tech game and I guess my interest will be more in random games. Who knows how the season will turn out, but it's going to be a long stretch to all Florida State a top 10 team. To me, the problem is the preseason poll is a product of the media. I'm almost sure that a team's popularity has alot to with rankings. There's really no other explanation on the consistency that FSU loses early in the season. They are always way overrated. They've not had a QB since Charlie Ward and just because they are FSU, they get early votes for polls?? Why?
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Until the CFP rankings come out, it’s just a meaningless number next to a team, nothing to get worked up over. It gives ESPN, NBC, CBS, etc the ability to print headlines like “top 10 falls to unranked!” which just adds to the excitement of the sport.
 
Orin Swift said:
Until the CFP rankings come out, it’s just a meaningless number next to a team, nothing to get worked up over. It gives ESPN, NBC, CBS, etc the ability to print headlines like “top 10 falls to unranked!” which just adds to the excitement of the sport.
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Unfortunately, I think most sports, college and pro are more interested in "excitement" than competition.
 
14Red said:
Unfortunately, I think most sports, college and pro are more interested in "excitement" than competition.
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If it adds even just 1% more viewers - and is meaningless and in no way has any affect on the rankings that actually matter, the play on the field or the level of competitor - what does it matter? How does it affect you and your viewing experience?
 
Orin Swift said:
If it adds even just 1% more viewers - and is meaningless and in no way has any affect on the rankings that actually matter, the play on the field or the level of competitor - what does it matter? How does it affect you and your viewing experience?
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Other than Florida State and Notre Dame being over ranked year after year after year, but when does credibility come into question?
 
14Red said:
Other than Florida State and Notre Dame being over ranked year after year after year, but when does credibility come into question?
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That doesn't affect your viewing experience.

There’s no credibility for the AP poll, Coaches poll, ESPN’s poll, AEW’s power ranking. It’s all subjective thought meant to spur discussion. It’s meaningless because it doesn't affect playoff seeding. The CFP ranking does that.
 
14Red said:
I'm a casual college football fan. However, I'll hop on here occasionally and post some thoughts about the season. First of all, I hate the playoffs system, I don't like conference realignment, the NIL and players constantly transferring. To me it's terrible for the game and overall makes the product worse. But I will say that I watched the FSU / Georgia Tech game and I guess my interest will be more in random games. Who knows how the season will turn out, but it's going to be a long stretch to all Florida State a top 10 team. To me, the problem is the preseason poll is a product of the media. I'm almost sure that a team's popularity has alot to with rankings. There's really no other explanation on the consistency that FSU loses early in the season. They are always way overrated. They've not had a QB since Charlie Ward and just because they are FSU, they get early votes for polls?? Why?
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I mean at least you prefaced it by saying you were casual

Florida State has had 2 Heisman trophy winning QBs since Ward. Both won a national title too

Multiple first round picks as well since Ward at QB

So if that's having no QB on the college level, then most don't I guess

Florida State was ranked 11 preseason in 2013 when they won the national title. They don't get the sec, ND, or big 10 bump preseason.

They beat LSU to start the year the last two years. So you seem misinformed here.

I do agree preseason polls shouldn't happen and are meaningless. They mostly go on previous years. FSU was 13-0 before being left out of the playoff because of politics.

I personally had them 9-3 or 10-2 preseason for this year. They lost a ton. Totally different team and I anticipated a setback

If they play like that week 0 game all year, it will be worse to like 7-5 though
 
MentorGrad2002 said:
I mean at least you prefaced it by saying you were casual

Florida State has had 2 Heisman trophy winning QBs since Ward. Both won a national title too

Multiple first round picks as well since Ward at QB

So if that's having no QB on the college level, then most don't I guess

Florida State was ranked 11 preseason in 2013 when they won the national title. They don't get the sec, ND, or big 10 bump preseason.

They beat LSU to start the year the last two years. So you seem misinformed here.

I do agree preseason polls shouldn't happen and are meaningless. They mostly go on previous years. FSU was 13-0 before being left out of the playoff because of politics.

I personally had them 9-3 or 10-2 preseason for this year. They lost a ton. Totally different team and I anticipated a setback

If they play like that week 0 game all year, it will be worse to like 7-5 though
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So what's 7-5 in the ACC calculate in real football. My point is with college football, it's so hard to evaluate because very few of the top programs play each other, and that's the way they want it.
 
14Red said:
So what's 7-5 in the ACC calculate in real football. My point is with college football, it's so hard to evaluate because very few of the top programs play each other, and that's the way they want it.
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It's not good in any football if that happens. But FSU has a very good record all time vs the Big 10 and has competed well with the SEC over time as well.

And you still don't know anything about college football. Again , at least you said you were casual. Got every point wrong so that checks out
 
These SEC teams are cut differently. Look at their halftime scores vs what the rest of the country is doing against bad teams. Across the board they’re up 35-45 points at the half. This really could be a year the 3-4 best teams in the country are all in that conference unfortunately.
 
It’s early but it looks like UGA has already separated themselves from everyone else. Clemson isn’t Clemson from 5 years ago, but still a top 15 team and they steam rolled them in the 2nd half.
 
Spartacus1987 said:
These SEC teams are cut differently. Look at their halftime scores vs what the rest of the country is doing against bad teams. Across the board they’re up 35-45 points at the half. This really could be a year the 3-4 best teams in the country are all in that conference unfortunately.
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Only one of them beat a ranked team. Blowing out Colorado St & WKU is not the same as blowing out Clemson.
 
Clemson just looks very untalented on offense. They had one receiver who flashed at times (#0) and the TE #9 made some plays, but it seemed like no other pass-catching options did anything.
 
Not sure Brian Kelly’s move to the SEC is what he thought it would be. I’ll add Kelly to the list of SEC coaches on the hot seat already this year—Billy Napier is at the top.
 
MentorGrad2002 said:
You are a joke and not really worth my time. But I'll just say you don't know me. And also say I'm just gonna put you on ignore because it isn't worth it to deal with you and you don't bring anything to the table
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You can put the entire 2024 season on Ignore, not just me.

FSU thinking it’s too good for the ACC is funny.
 
arizonawildcat said:
With Boston College putting the wood to Florida State tonight 28-13 (it wasn't really that close), FSU stands 0-2 for the season and 0-2 in the ACC. FSU must win every game of the season to be considered for the playoffs. IMO, FSU has been exposed as the biggest fraud in college football.
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Are they really a fraud though? They lost literally everyone off last seasons team. People expecting them to be good were the idiots.
 
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Spartacus1987 said:
Are they really a fraud though? They lost literally everyone off last seasons team. People expecting them to be good were the idiots.
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Headline writers need know when the correct phrasing is "stunning upset" and "over-ranked."

No insult to Norvell, he deserved all the accolades. for turning that stinker around and FSU with the exception of Miami, has dominated every other team in that conference, including Clemson. They're not out of line to think they're better than the ACC based on football records. There are other considerations though. Their endowment (and Miami's) would be at the very low end of the conference. They probably can't compete in this current portal world even if UF said it was OK for them to join.
 
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Loved BC last night. Tough on D and very fun and creative on offense.

FSU has issues - and it's deeper than one thing, but what made Norvell think DJU was his answer? He is talented, but has never been able to make the routine throws routinely and has never won big. He killed them last night, but that defense is playing way under it's potential.

It's tough being a Seminole fan right now. I'm worried for this guy:
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As Herm Edwards said, "DONT PRESS SEND!"
 
MentorGrad2002 said:
It's not good in any football if that happens. But FSU has a very good record all time vs the Big 10 and has competed well with the SEC over time as well.

And you still don't know anything about college football. Again , at least you said you were casual. Got every point wrong so that checks out
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Florida state is so bad .
 
eastisbest said:
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Headline writers need know when the correct phrasing is "stunning upset" and "over-ranked."

No insult to Norvell, he deserved all the accolades. for turning that stinker around and FSU with the exception of Miami, has dominated every other team in that conference, including Clemson. They're not out of line to think they're better than the ACC based on football records. There are other considerations though. Their endowment (and Miami's) would be at the very low end of the conference. They probably can't compete in this current portal world even if UF said it was OK for them to join.
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Some uninformed takes here. Norvell and FSU have done very well in the transfer portal overall. Last year's 13-0 team had some good hits there

Early returns say they missed some this year but it's not because of not being able to compete in the portal or money concerns. They don't have OSU or Bama money but can compete with most. Will compete even better once they get in the power 2

Don't know how you can say they dominated Clemson and not Miami. Have had better luck against Miami lately rather than Clemson.

I do agree on realignment though. It's not based on one season. Sure the trolls and haters will pounce on this rough start but it's a dumb take. FSU is a big time football brand with huge ratings and notoriety

If it were just record now, Nebraska , Maryland and Rutgers wouldn't be in the b1g. So obviously bringing the state of Florida and that brand would be worth more than programs like that

I've also seen the people saying FSU was dumb to sue. Um they brought out to the public that the ACC contract really ends after the 26 football season instead of 35. That's a pretty big revelation. FSU is fighting about the 25 and 26 seasons now and that's it.

I thought it would be a step back type of year. Didn't think it would be this bad. But been a fan all my life. I don't play for them so it's not like their play effects me much. I'll watch them whether they win a title or lose every game.

As I've said, don't post here much on this board, but I'll respond to those I respect. Incels like aew and brian are blocked because they aren't worth my time. But I'm glad you guys give them engagement so they don't kill themselves from loneliness from lack of interaction in the real world.

Just determined the all negative and no positive message board blowhards just aren't worth it anymore. Too much going on.
 
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