This is eventually going to lead to "AAU" and club teams replacing many school sanctioned sports. There are many parents and people in communities that believe it should be an honor to coach their athletes since they likely coached the kids in youth sports for free, they don't see why it wouldn't be done for little to no money at the higher levels. Unfortunately, it's just the world we live in.
Some athletic departments have separated from the teacher's unions for that reason. Coaches didn't see themselves as a priority to the union so they released themselves from the union umbrella.
so the coaches went fair share. The athletic department is still the district and thus the employer then who can set pay under the authority of the board. Unless a department became a separate legal entity which would be highly unusual at the K12 level (and costly).
This schism will be for alot of other reasons first, before it becomes due to coaching.
well when you can potentially lose your job its not really worth it, coaching shortages are only really happening at places where the culture is bad and kids really don't want to change it as well. Its hard when parents want change but really don't want their kids held accountable or force them to put in the effort this is why the competitive gap continues to widen. The world we live in is parents really do not have realistic expectation of what their child capable of, because of some AAU or private club coach who charges $40 for private lessons has lied to them.
This is a local decision negotiated by the union and board. I have seen it done both ways to be honest.
Maybe, but not in the foreseeable future.
That's something that the union and administration would both have to agree to.
At my last job neither applied because neither was specifically in the contract. Later both were accepted by interpretation.
Can you give me an actual example in Ohio please
I coached 4 sports a total of 54 seasons and never lost money on any of them.
I believe Dublin schools have a 2:1 policy. For any 2 years at a lower level spot (Asst coach), you get 1 year of credit if you become the HC.
I wouldn’t say anyone “loses” money but if you’re adding gas, gear, maybe a purchase or two for a kid- I could see a coach breaking even when some smaller sport stipends are $1200 for an asst baseball coach.
Loveland. They pulled their supplementals out of their contract I believe.
I think you’re going to see it happen sooner than you think. Esp in sports like soccer/baseball/softball.
I figured he meant when you convert into “hourly” rate.
Springboro is SWOhio is separate from their teacher’s union. Sports are for sure, not sure if that includes marching band, etc…
Wow if this is real that is crazy high pay for assistants. Most programs aren't paying their assistants more than a few thousand a year. Head coaches really aren't making this type of money...
Do you think a lot of coaches are also making money from sources outside of the districts contracts. Sources like booster clubs or wealthy donors, radio shows, local business endorsements etc.
Very few are getting additional money from those sources.
Could be a special administrative contract outside teachers pay.
For the one starting in 2023? Because until June 30, 2023 it was in the contract. See the SERB site.
Not according to their current contract https://serb.ohio.gov/static/PDF/Contracts/2021/21-MED-03-0227.pdf
This.
depends on the district.
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You are correct but if my sources are correct, they are negotiated outside of the contract. They don’t get the 3% raise the teachers may get, but they can negotiate a different % in the review committee. Does that make sense?
yes however if it’s negotiated in the review committee it’s still a contractual system.
It’s a smarter move to coach a second tier sport- like golf or bowling.
That’s true but the review committee has more flexibility to move, add, adjust supplementals.