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CMAC (Cincinnati Metro Athletic Conference) looking to expand

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Per MIke Dyer on twitter, "The Cincinnati Metro Athletic Conference (CMAC) is interested in meeting with and discussing expansion with schools and conferences in the Southwest District of Ohio." There is a bigger story on his FB page. With that being said, what conferences may fold into the CMAC, or what schools could we see joining?
 
 
The no-brainer additons are Mt Healthy and Northwest (at least as long as it continues to exist). Outside possibility is Walnut Hills but they offer a lot of sports that other CMAC schools do not. Could try to get Finneytown and Deer Park out of the CHL but it's more likely they go to the MVC before the CMAC.
 
As I said in the discussion about MVC expansion, when it's made public that they are looking discussions have already taken place and I bet they have an agreement with school(s) to join. Mt. Healthy and Northwest do seem the most logical.
 
CMAC expansion? Seriously? They can barely function as a conference the way it is, and they want to add more to it? Any school wanting to join a conference that is run by CPS athletic departments have to get their heads examined. The entire CPS athletic department is so backwards and disjointed with how they run things. I cannot fathom schools wanting to join the mayhem.
 
warriorblue said:
Walnut would not even consider going to the CMAC
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Only way I could see Walnut getting at all involved in the CMAC is to go there for football only and let the ECC bring in a more competitive school for football. That still feels like a very unlikely scenario.
 
Just merge the CMAC/DPS leagues for football (again), and let Trotwood, Mt. Healthy and Northwest participate. That gives you I believe 18 football playing schools. Maybe do three divisions of 6? Do 2 crossovers.

Red:

Aiken
Mt. Healthy
Northwest
Taft
Trotwood
Withrow

White:

Belmont
Dunbar
Hughes
Meadowdale
Western Hills
Woodward

Blue:

Cincinnati College Prep
Gamble Montessori
Pointz
Shroder
Stivers
Thurgood Marshall
 
Orca said:
Only way I could see Walnut getting at all involved in the CMAC is to go there for football only and let the ECC bring in a more competitive school for football. That still feels like a very unlikely scenario.
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Walnut is fine in most other sports in the ECC other than football. But IMO if you remove Winton Woods and Walnut Hills from the ECC that's a perfect group of 8 schools.

Personally sometime down the road I would like to see some shake up though. I wont go down my rabbit hole too much, but a GMC division consisting of Hamilton, Middletown, Princeton, Colerain, Winton Woods and whoever else would be literally perfection, and then if Colerain gets back to winning in football, there wouldn't be many better football leagues in the entire state then that... however the non-$$ sports in this league would be abysmal.
 
I really encourage anyone on here to talk to a CPS high school head coach and or principal. You will find out real quick the disfunction with CPS athletic departments. The turnover rate for athletic directors is crazy. The athletic directors also don't technically work for the school, they work for and are hired by an outside agency, Activities Beyond the Classroom (ABC). As such, there is often conflicts between building administration and athletics. Now, the kicker, ABC pays their high school athletic directors an absolute dog crap salary compared to every other school. They also do not require them to have any training or experience in being an athletic director, nor do they require a teaching license of any kind, let alone an admin license that most districts require.

Being independent would be better than dealing with CMAC IMO.
 
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cincifbfan said:
I really encourage anyone on here to talk to a CPS high school head coach and or principal. You will find out real quick the distinction with CPS athletic departments. The turnover rate for athletic directors is crazy. The athletic directors also don't technically work for the school, they work for and are hired by an outside agency, Activities Beyond the Classroom (ABC). As such, there is often conflicts between building administration and athletics. Now, the kicker, ABC pays their high school athletic directors an absolute dog crap salary compared to every other school. They also do not require them to have any training or experience in being an athletic director, nor do they require a teaching license of any kind, let alone an admin license that most districts require.

Being independent would be better than dealing with CMAC IMO.
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Maybe this is why we haven’t heard of a Northwest/MH move to the CMAC.
 
footballsalads43 said:
I don’t know if it’s been discussed on here. But the MVC is also looking to expand as well. Will be interested to here @MVC fan thoughts
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I’ve asked several times where people are hearing the MVC is looking to expand? I can find absolutely no info on this and I’m skeptical it’s true. They already have 14 teams. Unless a major shakeup is going to happen I don’t see the need to expand.
 
Copy and pasted from Mike Dyer's post in the "Cincinnati area high school sports" Facebook page on March 24th:

The Miami Valley Conference announced Monday morning it is accepting applications for potential league expansion.

The MVC is a mix of public and private schools in Southwest Ohio made up of A and AA schools. The male and female enrollments of Ohio High School Athletic Association member schools are used to determine OHSAA governance classifications (AAA, AA, A) and the OHSAA tournament divisions for each sport.

Interested schools can submit an official letter of interest to Miami Valley Conference Commissioner Phil Poggi by April 15 at [miamivalleycommish@gmail.com](mailto:miamivalleycommish@gmail.com).

The MVC announced in January a three-divisional alignment for football, girls volleyball, girls basketball, boys basketball, baseball and softball. That includes Scarlet, Grey and White divisions for those sports.
 
MVC fan said:
Thanks for sharing. I’m guessing the conference will spilt and the public schools are looking for a couple more. There’s major issues between the private and public AD’s. Can’t say much more than that, but it’s not a good situation.
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Is this all the privates or the whiny new comers causing problems?
 
During last football season when gun shots happened in back to back football games at NCH some of the schools refused to play there and that didn’t go over well. I don’t see if as anyone’s fault, you have a conference that couldn’t be anymore different. The pod move was a last ditch effort to hold things together.
 
MVC fan said:
During last football season when gun shots happened in back to back football games at NCH some of the schools refused to play there and that didn’t go over well. I don’t see if as anyone’s fault, you have a conference that couldn’t be anymore different. The pod move was a last ditch effort to hold things together.
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I don't blame the schools whatsoever. And it's not NCH's fault, it's the surrounding community.
 
cincifbfan said:
CMAC expansion? Seriously? They can barely function as a conference the way it is, and they want to add more to it? Any school wanting to join a conference that is run by CPS athletic departments have to get their heads examined. The entire CPS athletic department is so backwards and disjointed with how they run things. I cannot fathom schools wanting to join the mayhem.
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Maybe a Lockland, St Bernard, NCH maybe an outside chance a Mt Healthy or Norwood. Northwest no way and may eventually merge with Colerain.
 
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