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He left Moeller— he didn’t GO there.So does this make Carl Kramer a slick oils salesmen? This kid can play for Moeller, that's acceptable Lord forbid he plays for Deer Park.
He left Moeller— he didn’t GO there.So does this make Carl Kramer a slick oils salesmen? This kid can play for Moeller, that's acceptable Lord forbid he plays for Deer Park.
This attack on Gentry is bull. If people are taking their children to Deer Park so what. So what I hearing is when students transfer to Deer Park for basketball, then Gentry is a cheater. But when students transfer to Moeller, Carl Kramer is a great coach. GTFOOH. The Mahaffey kid left Northwest to go to Moeller. That definitely wasn't for Academics. I need you all to quit being hypocritical. If you have an issue with recruiting, call out the catholic schools as well and other big public schools too.
This attack on Gentry is bull. If people are taking their children to Deer Park so what. So what I hearing is when students transfer to Deer Park for basketball, then Gentry is a cheater. But when students transfer to Moeller, Carl Kramer is a great coach. GTFOOH. The Mahaffey kid left Northwest to go to Moeller. That definitely wasn't for Academics. I need you all to quit being hypocritical. If you have an issue with recruiting, call out the catholic schools as well and other big public schools too.
well, if this is accurate, it wouldnt be the 1st time Higgins has done this. I believe he had back to back regional teams at Colerain. Then his transfers got into serious legal trouble and he escaped. With that being said, I think he is a tremendous coach. But we will seeRumors spreading through Butler County is that HHS is getting a couple of more players "moving in"...... We'll see how this goes.
Not really.I would imagine Northwest to Moeller being a pretty big upgrade in academics.
This attack on Gentry is bull. If people are taking their children to Deer Park so what. So what I hearing is when students transfer to Deer Park for basketball, then Gentry is a cheater. But when students transfer to Moeller, Carl Kramer is a great coach. GTFOOH. The Mahaffey kid left Northwest to go to Moeller. That definitely wasn't for Academics. I need you all to quit being hypocritical. If you have an issue with recruiting, call out the catholic schools as well and other big public schools too.
I’m hearing Hamilton High has a pretty good 7 footer from Hawaii currently enrolled. How does a high school coach “recruit” a kid from Hawaii? Kids parents move here for a job? Remember AAU play was down this spring and summer also. Last but not least, it is none of our business where Sally &Billy Bob send their kids for School or how much they pay or don’t pay for their child’s education.
I’m hearing Hamilton High has a pretty good 7 footer from Hawaii currently enrolled. How does a high school coach “recruit” a kid from Hawaii? Kids parents move here for a job? Remember AAU play was down this spring and summer also. Last but not least, it is none of our business where Sally &Billy Bob send their kids for School or how much they pay or don’t pay for their child’s education.
The OHSAA exists for many reasons but one of them is to attempt to keep the playing field level. If some schools are recruiting and some are following the rules by not recruiting it creates an unfair advantage. Some schools are a closed district and some are open enrollment. If you are a closed school district you are supposed to live in the district with your family. Open enrollment you can attend from anywhere. There are many ways to break the rules but there is no way the OHSAA can enforce everything. Seems that you are suggesting that we just have no rules.
well, if this is accurate, it wouldnt be the 1st time Higgins has done this. I believe he had back to back regional teams at Colerain. Then his transfers got into serious legal trouble and he escaped. With that being said, I think he is a tremendous coach. But we will see
Can we just put the “recruiting” argument to bed forever, for all schools?
Newsflash, schools don’t operate without enrollment. Enrollment is pushed through recruiting. Who cares if it’s for a kid that can hoop or play the piano or gets a high score on the entrance exam.
Kids go to our schools because they live in the district. I didn't attend with anyone who had been recruited, under even the most generous definition of the word--there was not a single student in the district who was there because someone from the school had talked to the child or the parents. I lived with a basketball coach and I can tell you with absolute certainty that he wasn't out talking to kids in other districts to see if their families wanted to move. Neither was the band director, or the math teachers. You taught and coached who you had.
I get that it's different at a private school like Moeller. Pretending you can have something like a fair competition between schools with such diametrically opposite operating models makes as much sense as putting Ohio State and Ohio Wesleyan in the same athletic conference.
It's not really much different at a private school.
I'm most familiar with Elder and 90% of those players arrived to Elder from one of the local westside catholic feeder schools. In fact, the vast majority had a dad, grandpa, or uncle who also went to Elder.
Of course Elder needs enrollment. Every school needs enrollment or the school would cease to exist.True. McNick's an even better example.
Elder does need enrollment, though, as UCArch says. And they do have open houses, which I know because there's a sign for this year's down the street from me (that's a kid that didn't arrive from a feeder school, but I'm pretty sure the dad went to Elder). I'm just pointing out that many schools don't even have that. "Everybody does it" doesn't hold water know matter how far you dilute the meaning of "recruiting."
Yes, it is and you know it. You don’t have to like Moeller, but don’t exaggerate to make a point.Not really.
Normally I personally go to the 3 Grade Schools closest by me (St Mary, St Cecilia, Pacelli) and put the Elder Open House signs up. This yr, they were already out when I got there. Good to see Elder being proactive.Of course Elder needs enrollment. Every school needs enrollment or the school would cease to exist.
Do public schools not have open houses? I'm genuinely asking, I don't know? What I do know is more and more public schools offer open enrollment so kids who live outside their district are permitted to attend.
I wasn’t — how familiar are you with the academic standards of the two/three schools?Yes, it is and you know it. You don’t have to like Moeller, but don’t exaggerate to make a point.
Northwest is ranked avg to below avg among Cincinnati area public schools. Moeller is better academically.I wasn’t — how familiar are you with the academic standards of the two/three schools?
Not much— and if you look at the standard for the athletes, the difference becomes not worth talking about—certainly not the “pretty big upgrade” that the original poster referenced... Moeller has taken top athletes that were border-line developmentally disabled, if they could meet the standard on the field... I can specifically recall such cases, with a tackle and a tight end that played on some of Moeller’s best teams back in the ‘70’s— I won’t mention names, because it‘s not fair to put these kids’ mental capacity on display for the world— but there is NO WAY that this kid coming from Northwest SD is going to have ANY problems getting through Moeller...Northwest is ranked avg to below avg among Cincinnati area public schools. Moeller is better academically.
Not much— and if you look at the standard for the athletes, the difference becomes not worth talking about—certainly not the “pretty big upgrade” that the original poster referenced... Moeller has taken top athletes that were border-line developmentally disabled, if they could meet the standard on the field... I can specifically recall such cases, with a tackle and a tight end that played on some of Moeller’s best teams back in the ‘70’s— I won’t mention names, because it‘s not fair to put these kids’ mental capacity on display for the world— but there is NO WAY that this kid coming from Northwest SD is going to have ANY problems getting through Moeller...
As for the rest of the (non-athlete) student body, Moeller does less with more than ANY Catholic school I can think of— they are situated in the wealthiest, most affluent area of Cincinnati, get tons of kids from the surrounding area that are some of the absolute best school districts academically in Ohio (Sycamore, Indian Hill, Madeira, Mason, Mariemont, Wyoming... Westchester), and then rarely ever produce any top performing scholars... Sycamore (Moeller’s “local” public school district) puts Moeller to shame, academically— and it‘s not even CLOSE. If I cared about academics more than athletics (or even if I didn’t) and I wasn’t Catholic, and I lived right next door to Moeller, there is no way I would choose Moeller over Sycamore—even if BOTH of them were free...you’re giving Moeller way too much credit— it’s not like Elder.
I do feel very fortunate (blessed even)... but the “perfect Jesuit world“ that you reference (at least in Cincinnati) is probably down there on Central Parkway, at DePaul Cristo Rey-- now, you want to talk about doing MORE with less— that’s where it’s happening— check out the cover story on this month’s Catholic Telegraph, for more on that.Lol. Your love for Moeller is always so impressive. If we all could live in the Perfect Jesuit world that you live and grew up in, we all could be as fortunate as you.
I do feel very fortunate (blessed even)... but the “perfect Jesuit world“ that you reference (at least in Cincinnati) is probably down there on Central Parkway, at DePaul Cristo Rey-- now, you want to talk about doing MORE with less— that’s where it’s happening— check out the cover story on this month’s Catholic Telegraph, for more on that.