Central Buckeye Conference 2025

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Looks other conferences are putting up threads for the 2025 season, let's get it started.

The CBC ended 2024, I believe, a first...two teams playing in the state semis.

What do the schedules look like for next year?
What teams may bump up divisions?
Coaching changes?
 
 
I don't particularly follow the CBC, but this is from another thread on here.

CENTRAL BUCKEYE CONFERENCE
Kenton Trail Division

BELLEFONTAINE
1(H) Sidney
2@ Bellbrook
3@ Westerville Central
4@ Benjamin Logan
5(H) Indian Lake
6(H) Kenton Ridge
7(H) London
8@ Tecumseh
9(H) Urbana
10@ Jonathan Alder

JONATHAN ALDER
1@ West Liberty-Salem
2(H) Columbus Academy
3(H) Bloom-Carroll
4@ North Union
5(H) Springfield Shawnee
6@ Tecumseh
7(H) Urbana
8@ London
9@ Kenton Ridge
10(H) Bellefontaine

KENTON RIDGE
1(H) St. Paris Graham
2(H) Dayton Northridge
3@ Batavia
4@ Springfield Shawnee
5(H) Springfield Northwestern
6@ Bellefontaine
7(H) Tecumseh
8@ Urbana
9(H) Jonathan Alder
10@ London

LONDON
1@ New Albany
2(H) Chillicothe
3(H) Franklin Heights
4@ Indian Lake
5(H) St. Paris Graham
6@ Urbana
7@ Bellefontaine
8(H) Jonathan Alder
9@ Tecumseh
10(H) Kenton Ridge

SPRINGFIELD SHAWNEE
1(H) Greenon
2(H) Brookville
3@ Tecumseh
4(H) Kenton Ridge
5@ Jonathan Alder
6(H) Springfield Northwestern
7@ Indian Lake
8(H) St. Paris Graham
9@ North Union
10@ Benjamin Logan

TECUMSEH
1@ Fairborn
2@ Dayton Carroll
3(H) Springfield Shawnee
4@ Springfield Northwestern
5(H) Benjamin Logan
6(H) Indian Lake
7@ Kenton Ridge
8(H) Bellefontaine
9(H) London
10@ Urbana

Mad River Division

BENJAMIN LOGAN
1@ Bluffton
2(H) West Liberty-Salem
3@ Urbana
4(H) Bellefontaine
5@ Tecumseh
6@ St. Paris Graham
7(H) North Union
8(H) Indian Lake
9@ Springfield Northwestern
10(H) Springfield Shawnee

INDIAN LAKE
1@ Lima Bath
2(H) Fairbanks
3(H) Allen East
4(H) London
5@ Bellefontaine
6@ North Union
7(H) Springfield Shawnee
8@ Benjamin Logan
9@ St. Paris Graham
10(H) Springfield Northwestern

NORTH UNION
1@ Pleasant
2(H) Liberty Union
3(H) Northmor
4(H) Jonathan Alder
5@ Urbana
6(H) Indian Lake
7@ Benjamin Logan
8@ Springfield Northwestern
9(H) Springfield Shawnee
10(H) St. Paris Graham

SPRINGFIELD NORTHWESTERN
1@ South Charleston Southeastern
2(H) Greenon
3@ Miami East
4(H) Tecumseh
5@ Kenton Ridge
6@ Springfield Shawnee
7@ St. Paris Graham
8(H) North Union
9(H) Benjamin Logan
10@ Indian Lake

ST. PARIS GRAHAM
1@ Kenton Ridge
2@ Milton-Union
3(H) Covington
4(H) Urbana
5@ London
6(H) Benjamin Logan
7(H) Springfield Northwestern
8@ Springfield Shawnee
9(H) Indian Lake
10@ North Union

URBANA
1@ Springfield Northeastern
2(H) Mechanicsburg
3(H) Benjamin Logan
4@ St. Paris Graham
5(H) North Union
6(H) London
7@ Jonathan Alder
8(H) Kenton Ridge
9@ Bellefontaine
10(H) Tecumseh
 
Comparing 2025 schedule from above post to 2024, there are some interesting games but no MACDonald's teams on the menu this year.

BELLEFONTAINE - Same OOC and Crossovers as 2024
1(H) Sidney
2@ Bellbrook
3@ Westerville Central
4@ Benjamin Logan
5(H) Indian Lake

It worked well from them last year and should be a decent measure for the Chefs going into divisional play.

JONATHAN ALDER
1@ West Liberty-Salem - Fairbanks in 2024
2(H) Columbus Academy
3(H) Bloom-Carroll
4@ North Union
5(H) Springfield Shawnee - Ben Logan in 2024

A new coach and what he brings to the table to get the Homesteaders moving up. Not sure what WL-S will bring to the table but IMO, this is not a gimme game. However, they could be better off with Shawnee than BL but kind of a wait and see if the Braves can get things back on track and if BL actually decides to play 10 games. I like this schedule

KENTON RIDGE
1(H) St. Paris Graham - Mechanicsburg in 2024
2(H) Dayton Northridge - Bethel in 2024
3@ Batavia - Mifflin in 2024
4@ Springfield Shawnee
5(H) Springfield Northwestern

Graham may not be the for sure 1st game win for the Kittens and Northridge is a wait and see but should be a skosh better than Bethel. Jumping into a D3, 8-3 Batavia squad from last year is a marked improvement over Mifflin

LONDON
1@ New Albany - Washington Courthouse in 2024
2(H) Chillicothe
3(H) Franklin Heights - Richmond, IN in 2024
4@ Indian Lake - Shawnee in 2024
5(H) St. Paris Graham

I like the bump from D4 WCH to D2 New Albany and a D2 Franklin Heights, though not a world beater, it does get them back into OH for week 3. I suspect they will win the crossovers but there should be improvement from last year match up with Graham.

URBANA
1@ Springfield Northeastern
2(H) Mechanicsburg - Ft. Recovery in 2024
3(H) Benjamin Logan - Bethel in 2024
4@ St. Paris Graham
5(H) North Union

Grabbing two teams from the same conference, especially two in the same division is a points breaker. Don't get me wrong, I like both of those games but in the end, there are points left on the table if you win both games. IMO, the U should have jumped all over getting Anna week 1.

TECUMSEH
1@ Fairborn
2@ Dayton Carroll
3(H) Springfield Shawnee
4@ Springfield Northwestern
5(H) Benjamin Logan - Indian Lake in 2024
6(H) Indian Lake - Should be Alder to open divisional play

At this point, any port in a storm.

BENJAMIN LOGAN
1@ Bluffton
2(H) West Liberty-Salem
3@ Urbana - Sidney Lehman in 2024
4(H) Bellefontaine
5@ Tecumseh - Jonathan Alder in 2024

BL made a push late in the season and hopefully this is the year the Raiders turn it around. The first four weeks are a tough as any CBC schedule and if they come out 3-2 or even 2-3, they will have a say in who takes the MRD crown

INDIAN LAKE
1@ Lima Bath - Anna in 2024
2(H) Fairbanks
3(H) Allen East
4(H) London - Tecumseh in 2024
5@ Bellefontaine

Hmmm, Bath? Kind of a what if game. This schedule may not be favorable to the Frosted Lakers but weeks 2 and 3 should be manageable. Yet, there are critical pieces to replace

NORTH UNION
1@ Pleasant
2(H) Liberty Union
3(H) Northmor - Zane Trace in 2024
4(H) Jonathan Alder
5@ Urbana

Well, Northmor losing their D6 OPOY is a good thing for NU but unless things have changed a lot from last year, this squad could be entering divisional play looking for their first win.

SPRINGFIELD NORTHWESTERN - Same OOC and Crossovers as 2024
1@ South Charleston Southeastern
2(H) Greenon
3@ Miami East
4(H) Tecumseh
5@ Kenton Ridge

Wow oh wow, how about having a little variety to the meat and potatoes. The OOC hasn't changed since 2022 and only a team difference since forever ago. The 7.6 point would have gotten the Warriors into the D5 R20 playoffs but fell short in D16, Again, two teams from the same conference and in the same division will not help you out point wise. 7-3 may not get NW in the playoffs this year. The AD needs to get a bit creative.

ST. PARIS GRAHAM
1@ Kenton Ridge - West Liberty in 2024
2@ Milton-Union - Mechanicsburg in 2024
3(H) Covington - Brookville in 2024
4(H) Urbana
5@ London

Solid schedule for a now experienced Falcon's club. They have a potential to get into divisional play 4-1 or realistically 3-2. Then the MRD is in a Katy bar the door because these birds could take the division.

SPRINGFIELD SHAWNEE
1(H) Greenon - Stebbins in 2024
2(H) Brookville - Maderia in 2024
3@ Tecumseh
4(H) Kenton Ridge
5@ Jonathan Alder - London in 2024

For the Squaw Nation, this is good schedule and has the potential for a 4-1 start into divisional play. However, Alder is never a push over and Shawnee really hasn't fared that well with the SWBL...Brookville will be a true test of where they stand after last year's debacle. Crawl before walking, so I see a 2-3 record before baby sitting in the Toddler Division. IF the NW AD needs a lesson in scheduling, I would suggest picking the Shawnee AD brain as they have played teams from all over SW OH.

Kind of wait and see until the body counts, transfers, coaches, etc. are in place and are in assigned regions before jumping out there in who is favored.
 
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Gamma Gobbler said:
Looks other conferences are putting up threads for the 2025 season, let's get it started.

The CBC ended 2024, I believe, a first...two teams playing in the state semis.

What do the schedules look like for next year?
What teams may bump up divisions?
Coaching changes?
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Just the one, London. IL was beaten in the Reginal Finals.


ADULT DIVISION:
1. London: they do what they and is replicable.

Big Gap.
2. Bellefontaine. New Era has begun and need to put a focus on the OL/DL as that has been their achilles heal....

The Rest.....


Juvy DIVISION: Was on the weak side last year so it has to be better, right?
1. Dare I saw.......Northwestern?
2. Indian Lake: Losing much of their offensive production and it remains to be seen whom the QB will be, however they have a super talented kid who played mostly WR that I believe needs at least a dozen touches a game whether it be at a RB or QB as well as WR. It is HS>..you can line a kid all over the place and still be productive. With more experience running the ball, and some patience behind the line, could be dynamic.
Have an easier week 1 game vs Bath instead of anna, buuuut has London so that is a wash record wise. Why a league forces matchups....never a fan....when it has nothing in the standings.....

3. SS/Graham. SS had to be an anomoly, right? Graham finished well after a brutal start.
5. BL. Had a lot of number last year and won a little late in the season so mybe they can harness some of that mo. Only saw them once, but I wonder if they tried to overcomplicate the offense with all their presnap motion/shifts.
6. North Onion. Not FB related....but I saw they have a kid averaging like 30 in hoops, as a SR I think, but the CBC stie has no stats on him last year. Is he a NIL deal?



Also hearing rumblings of some new teams joining the conference in the near future, in the adult and juvenile divisions.
Could this and maybe some more teams added lead to the MR division breaking off on their own?

Inquiring minds want to know....
 
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Just the one, London. IL was beaten in the Reginal Finals.


ADULT DIVISION:
1. London: they do what they and is replicable.

Big Gap.
2. Bellefontaine. New Era has begun and need to put a focus on the OL/DL as that has been their achilles heal....

The Rest.....


Juvy DIVISION: Was on the weak side last year so it has to be better, right?
1. Dare I saw.......Northwestern?
2. Indian Lake: Losing much of their offensive production and it remains to be seen whom the QB will be, however they have a super talented kid who played mostly WR that I believe needs at least a dozen touches a game whether it be at a RB or QB as well as WR. It is HS>..you can line a kid all over the place and still be productive. With more experience running the ball, and some patience behind the line, could be dynamic.
Have an easier week 1 game vs Bath instead of anna, buuuut has London so that is a wash record wise. Why a league forces matchups....never a fan....when it has nothing in the standings.....

3. SS/Graham. SS had to be an anomoly, right? Graham finished well after a brutal start.
5. BL. Had a lot of number last year and won a little late in the season so mybe they can harness some of that mo. Only saw them once, but I wonder if they tried to overcomplicate the offense with all their presnap motion/shifts.
6. North Onion. Not FB related....but I saw they have a kid averaging like 30 in hoops, as a SR I think, but the CBC stie has no stats on him last year. Is he a NIL deal?



Also hearing rumblings of some new teams joining the conference in the near future, but in the adult and juvenile divisions.
Could this and maybe some more teams added lead to the MR division breaking off on their own?

Inquiring minds want to know....
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Ooops, got behind myself, meant to say regional finals and not state semis...I apologize to the WL-S faithful.

My buddy watched the Shawnee/Northwestern game and said he never saw melt down like the Squaws had where NW scored 3 TD in the last two minutes of the first half. That may have been the case throughout the year and would lead me to believe their season was an anomoly. He was not impressed with NW...so, maybe the Toddlers are wide open this year.

Bethel to the Adults and Greenon to the Toddlers. I am guessing 2026. Bethel appears to have growth that may exceed Tipp City and should be or could be D3. So, the fit into the KTD is founded. Greenon, kind of stuck in the D5 world but would think there is a possibility of them moving up...odd community of old people and young people but not necessarily people with HS aged kids... What do both of the teams add to the CBC...well, your favorite thing with and forced league matchups. Its either lose an OOC or a Crossover and I am thinking it will be a OOC game. Outside of that I don't see the strength of schedule improving.
 
Gamma Gobbler said:
Ooops, got behind myself, meant to say regional finals and not state semis...I apologize to the WL-S faithful.

My buddy watched the Shawnee/Northwestern game and said he never saw melt down like the Squaws had where NW scored 3 TD in the last two minutes of the first half. That may have been the case throughout the year and would lead me to believe their season was an anomoly. He was not impressed with NW...so, maybe the Toddlers are wide open this year.

Bethel to the Adults and Greenon to the Toddlers. I am guessing 2026. Bethel appears to have growth that may exceed Tipp City and should be or could be D3. So, the fit into the KTD is founded. Greenon, kind of stuck in the D5 world but would think there is a possibility of them moving up...odd community of old people and young people but not necessarily people with HS aged kids... What do both of the teams add to the CBC...well, your favorite thing with and forced league matchups. Its either lose an OOC or a Crossover and I am thinking it will be a OOC game. Outside of that I don't see the strength of schedule improving.
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Could maybe Jamestown Greenview be potentially interested?
 
Gamma Gobbler said:
Ooops, got behind myself, meant to say regional finals and not state semis...I apologize to the WL-S faithful.

My buddy watched the Shawnee/Northwestern game and said he never saw melt down like the Squaws had where NW scored 3 TD in the last two minutes of the first half. That may have been the case throughout the year and would lead me to believe their season was an anomoly. He was not impressed with NW...so, maybe the Toddlers are wide open this year.

Bethel to the Adults and Greenon to the Toddlers. I am guessing 2026. Bethel appears to have growth that may exceed Tipp City and should be or could be D3. So, the fit into the KTD is founded. Greenon, kind of stuck in the D5 world but would think there is a possibility of them moving up...odd community of old people and young people but not necessarily people with HS aged kids... What do both of the teams add to the CBC...well, your favorite thing with and forced league matchups. Its either lose an OOC or a Crossover and I am thinking it will be a OOC game. Outside of that I don't see the strength of schedule improving.
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Adding another hour + bus ride from Alder to Bethel is brutal when they already have to go to Tecumseh, Graham, Indian Lake, and Northwestern, etc. JH travel turns into long nights during the week.

Greenon adds nothing but another body for the small schools. I just don’t see how this league survives in a two tier setup in the future.

The MR wants no part of any more crossovers in football and that trickles all the way down to JH. Which means trying to pick up non-league games there as well.
 
just my guess.. the talked about potential expansion is for the purpose of eliminating crossovers..

i do not see it being finalized. someone at Bethel would have to be off their rocker to willingly join the Mad River division. if they want a step up, they should’ve joined the SWBL. i do not get the Bethel idea..

realistically, I think a split is more likely and there will end up being 1-2 new leagues consisting of a mix of OHC/CBC schools.

i don’t see Greeneview ever entertaining the idea of joining the CBC. Travel to northern Logan County would be brutal, and they have no reason to leave the situation they are currently in.
 
ghsknightsfan said:
just my guess.. the talked about potential expansion is for the purpose of eliminating crossovers..

i do not see it being finalized. someone at Bethel would have to be off their rocker to willingly join the Mad River division. if they want a step up, they should’ve joined the SWBL. i do not get the Bethel idea..

realistically, I think a split is more likely and there will end up being 1-2 new leagues consisting of a mix of OHC/CBC schools.

i don’t see Greeneview ever entertaining the idea of joining the CBC. Travel to northern Logan County would be brutal, and they have no reason to leave the situation they are currently in.
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The Bigger CBC schools are just geographically in a weird spot to where expansion in my opinion would be a hard task to pull off. Schools like Wilmington, CM, WCH, Miami Trace are all way too south for Bellefontaine. Tippecanoe and the other MVL schools off of 75 are probably not interested and are too far west for Johnathan Alder and London, good luck getting Wapakoneta to leave the WBL. Just not many options for them, if they do split I think it’ll be those 6 schools sticking together
 
I've heard North Union and Pleasant want to get back together but don't see Pleasant joining the CBC. So that would mean some sort of split, not sure what that means for the CBC.
 
Pleasant isn’t leaving the MOAC. They would be stupid to do that…. Rumor is MOAC is tired of Pleasant shopping around and if they pursue anything else they may get booted out and Lexington comes into MOAC to replace them.. leaving Pleasant with an independent sports schedule.

NU seems to be looking all the time. Their AD needs to cool it in my opinion. NU’s AD is driving force behind it all. He needs to stop trying to just win football games. The MOAC wasn’t a good fit for him so he ran to CBC. Now CBC isn’t a fit? Come on!
 
CWpapa said:
Pleasant isn’t leaving the MOAC. They would be stupid to do that…. Rumor is MOAC is tired of Pleasant shopping around and if they pursue anything else they may get booted out and Lexington comes into MOAC to replace them.. leaving Pleasant with an independent sports schedule.

NU seems to be looking all the time. Their AD needs to cool it in my opinion. NU’s AD is driving force behind it all. He needs to stop trying to just win football games. The MOAC wasn’t a good fit for him so he ran to CBC. Now CBC isn’t a fit? Come on!
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I don't think they should either, especially fielding sports like soccer and tennis, but I've heard they want to.
 
Where the CBC was to where they are now. I apologize for the length of this post.

1974 Founding Members
Bellefontaine
Greenon
London
Northeastern
Shawnee
Urbana

1977 Add
Kenton Ridge

1978 Subtract
London

1982 Add
Northwestern

1991 Add
Tecumseh

2001 Subtract
Northeastern

2001 Add
Ben Logan
Graham
Miami East
Tipp City
Indian Lake

The Great Reorganization of 2001

Bellefontaine - D3
Greenon -D3
Shawnee - D2
Urbana - D3
Kenton Ridge - D4
Northwestern - D3
Tecumseh - D2
Ben Logan - D4
Graham - D3
Miami East - D5
Tipp City - D3
Indian Lake -D3

This was kind of a godsend for Greenon and Northwestern knowing they did not have to play Bellefontaine, Shawnee, Tecumseh, Urbana and Kenton Ridge every year. However, it did not get any better for them until the conference split into divisions and I don't remember exactly when but I think around 2004.

Divisional Split
Kenton Trail (Adult Division)
Bellefontaine
Shawnee
Tecumseh
Tipp City
Urbana
Indian Lake
Mad River (Toddler Division)
Greenon
Northwestern
Ben Logan
Graham
Miami East
Kenton Ridge

2006 Subtract
Miami East

2007 Add
Stebbins

2016 Subtract
Tipp City
Stebbins

2017 Subtract
Greenon

2017 Add
London - AGAIN
Alder
North Union

Tipp was a good addition and probably a good deletion but Stebbins was always a head scratcher other than they filled a void. Then adding London and Alder were good adds while North Onion was yet another mystery, other than filling a Greenon void. IMO, West Jeff would have made more sense but the OHC gig was and is a better fit for them than sitting in the Toddler Division. There have been a couple more flips from Adults to Toddlers over the years to fill voids to what we have now.

KTD
Bellefontaine
Tecumseh
London
Alder
Urbana
Kenton Ridge
MRD
Indian Lake
Northwestern
Ben Logan
Graham
Shawnee
North Union

Looking at the above I could easily see the KTD schools, along with Shawnee, stepping away and forming their own conference, while leaving the MRD schools, sans Shawnee, to possibly form with the OHC
 
Gamma Gobbler said:
Where the CBC was to where they are now. I apologize for the length of this post.

1974 Founding Members
Bellefontaine
Greenon
London
Northeastern
Shawnee
Urbana

1977 Add
Kenton Ridge

1978 Subtract
London

1982 Add
Northwestern

1991 Add
Tecumseh

2001 Subtract
Northeastern

2001 Add
Ben Logan
Graham
Miami East
Tipp City
Indian Lake

The Great Reorganization of 2001

Bellefontaine - D3
Greenon -D3
Shawnee - D2
Urbana - D3
Kenton Ridge - D4
Northwestern - D3
Tecumseh - D2
Ben Logan - D4
Graham - D3
Miami East - D5
Tipp City - D3
Indian Lake -D3

This was kind of a godsend for Greenon and Northwestern knowing they did not have to play Bellefontaine, Shawnee, Tecumseh, Urbana and Kenton Ridge every year. However, it did not get any better for them until the conference split into divisions and I don't remember exactly when but I think around 2004.

Divisional Split
Kenton Trail (Adult Division)
Bellefontaine
Shawnee
Tecumseh
Tipp City
Urbana
Indian Lake
Mad River (Toddler Division)
Greenon
Northwestern
Ben Logan
Graham
Miami East
Kenton Ridge

2006 Subtract
Miami East

2007 Add
Stebbins

2016 Subtract
Tipp City
Stebbins

2017 Subtract
Greenon

2017 Add
London - AGAIN
Alder
North Union

Tipp was a good addition and probably a good deletion but Stebbins was always a head scratcher other than they filled a void. Then adding London and Alder were good adds while North Onion was yet another mystery, other than filling a Greenon void. IMO, West Jeff would have made more sense but the OHC gig was and is a better fit for them than sitting in the Toddler Division. There have been a couple more flips from Adults to Toddlers over the years to fill voids to what we have now.

KTD
Bellefontaine
Tecumseh
London
Alder
Urbana
Kenton Ridge
MRD
Indian Lake
Northwestern
Ben Logan
Graham
Shawnee
North Union

Looking at the above I could easily see the KTD schools, along with Shawnee, stepping away and forming their own conference, while leaving the MRD schools, sans Shawnee, to possibly form with the OHC
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I actually could see just the opposite - the MR schools plus Urbana and KR breaking off and forming their own league. I could also see Greenon or Bethel replacing NU in that scenario.
 
CWpapa said:
Pleasant isn’t leaving the MOAC. They would be stupid to do that…. Rumor is MOAC is tired of Pleasant shopping around and if they pursue anything else they may get booted out and Lexington comes into MOAC to replace them.. leaving Pleasant with an independent sports schedule.

NU seems to be looking all the time. Their AD needs to cool it in my opinion. NU’s AD is driving force behind it all. He needs to stop trying to just win football games. The MOAC wasn’t a good fit for him so he ran to CBC. Now CBC isn’t a fit? Come on!
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Hajjar knows NU is in for some rough football seasons ahead with a shrinking roster and the rest of their sports surprisingly aren’t doing all that well in the CBC. Graham, Northwestern and Shawnee are all really long trips for them.

But the reality is they wouldn’t be doing any better in the MOAC either.
 
Bethel is coming to the KTD (Adult) division in 2026 and Greenon is coming to the MRD (Juvy/Toddler) in '26. It's fact. Nobody is leaving...yet.

In terms of football predictions..
KTD: Its London and then the rest and it's not close. Bellefontaine will take a large step back, not a lot of homegrown talent in the program right now, especially compared to the last 2 years. They will have to double or triple the NIL fund for the last few years to be 8-2. I look for Urbana to maybe be the second best team in the big half, who knows what happens with JA and a new coach.

MRD: On paper, NW brings back the most and should be the favorite, BUT you can't disclaim a week 14 IL team who brings back plenty of players including 2 all-state players. I believe the culture of winning sticks at IL and they should probably remain the favorite, even with some holes to fill, the cupboard is far from bare. I look for BL to take another step forward as well as SS and Graham. NU will be bad yet again, maybe worse. Overall, the MRD will be far more talented and compete at a much higher level than last year, very even teams across the board. If I had to pick, I'm taking the Lakers because 4 extra weeks of practice/games compared to everyone else is a huge deal. Lakers and Red Raiders repeat as division champs and the deepest CBC reps in the playoffs.
 
If people leave that’s a shame. They are all similar size schools. Good times and bad times don’t last usually. Something to be said about teaching kids to work through adversity. I personally like the league. Some schools need to just get better and stop whining. Some were very good a few years back and I didn’t hear them say a word.
 
So in the last 10 years Bethel has had two seasons over .500 and beaten four teams with a winning record, two of which came against Dayton Christian. Brilliant move!🤯🥴 And they are 50-70 min away from three of the KT teams. Brilliant!

And we don’t even want to talk about Greenon athletics. They’ve already had one failed stint in the CBC.
 
Footballguy1 said:
Bethel is coming to the KTD (Adult) division in 2026 and Greenon is coming to the MRD (Juvy/Toddler) in '26. It's fact. Nobody is leaving...yet.

In terms of football predictions..
KTD: Its London and then the rest and it's not close. Bellefontaine will take a large step back, not a lot of homegrown talent in the program right now, especially compared to the last 2 years. They will have to double or triple the NIL fund for the last few years to be 8-2. I look for Urbana to maybe be the second best team in the big half, who knows what happens with JA and a new coach.

MRD: On paper, NW brings back the most and should be the favorite, BUT you can't disclaim a week 14 IL team who brings back plenty of players including 2 all-state players. I believe the culture of winning sticks at IL and they should probably remain the favorite, even with some holes to fill, the cupboard is far from bare. I look for BL to take another step forward as well as SS and Graham. NU will be bad yet again, maybe worse. Overall, the MRD will be far more talented and compete at a much higher level than last year, very even teams across the board. If I had to pick, I'm taking the Lakers because 4 extra weeks of practice/games compared to everyone else is a huge deal. Lakers and Red Raiders repeat as division champs and the deepest CBC reps in the playoffs.
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CBC isn’t exactly a gauntlet… Bellefontaine will be fine. Likely 7 wins but could be 8. Bellebrook and London are the tuff ones. Little brother takes over at QB with some weapons around him.
 
RollingTrain said:
So in the last 10 years Bethel has had two seasons over .500 and beaten four teams with a winning record, two of which came against Dayton Christian. Brilliant move!🤯🥴 And they are 50-70 min away from three of the KT teams. Brilliant!

And we don’t even want to talk about Greenon athletics. They’ve already had one failed stint in the CBC.
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Relative to the majority of the league’s footprint, IMO these are the best available options if they want or need to expand…by a lot.

Bethel has roughly doubled their enrollment over the last 15 years, and is still growing. They are already at equivalent enrollment to Kenton Ridge and Urbana. If you look at their current elementary numbers they are averaging over 160 per class and have 1-2 classes in the pipeline with more like 175-180 students. They might be the only legitimate KT expansion candidate in a current CBC footprint or adjoining county.

Greenon’s demographics are a lot better than all of the MR division schools aside from Shawnee. If you look back at prior posts detailing school size at various stages of this league, a lot of the schools in that division have hemorrhaged enrollment over the years and have zero growth opportunity due to geography. Graham, Indian Lake, etc., are only going to continue to shrink. Enon is a stone’s throw from Fairborn and has a lot more growth opportunity due to proximity to WPAFB, Wright State, and the local Speedway (now 7/11?) corporate hub in that village. Housing has started to turnover some in that town, with some new development in the works.
 
82ohiokid said:
CBC isn’t exactly a gauntlet… Bellefontaine will be fine. Likely 7 wins but could be 8. Bellebrook and London are the tuff ones. Little brother takes over at QB with some weapons around him.
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"CBC isn’t exactly a gauntlet". Not sure what gauntlet you are looking for them to run but the fact is, they usually have a team or two get beyond the first round and in some years pushing the regional semis/finals.

As far as RSC, hell the kid's MS class did not seem to offer much, 0-7-1 and pretty much freight trained. Looking at next year, Caudill is the WEAPON and it's safe to say RSC will not have the weapons around him his brother had, which were some stout kids that made an exceptional QB a better QB. You may be right with a 7-3 or 8-2 but don't be surprised if they are sitting at 5-5 at years end.

BTW, who is the Chef MS HC?
 
nwwarrior09 said:
Relative to the majority of the league’s footprint, IMO these are the best available options if they want or need to expand…by a lot.

Bethel has roughly doubled their enrollment over the last 15 years, and is still growing. They are already at equivalent enrollment to Kenton Ridge and Urbana. If you look at their current elementary numbers they are averaging over 160 per class and have 1-2 classes in the pipeline with more like 175-180 students. They might be the only legitimate KT expansion candidate in a current CBC footprint or adjoining county.

Greenon’s demographics are a lot better than all of the MR division schools aside from Shawnee. If you look back at prior posts detailing school size at various stages of this league, a lot of the schools in that division have hemorrhaged enrollment over the years and have zero growth opportunity due to geography. Graham, Indian Lake, etc., are only going to continue to shrink. Enon is a stone’s throw from Fairborn and has a lot more growth opportunity due to proximity to WPAFB, Wright State, and the local Speedway (now 7/11?) corporate hub in that village. Housing has started to turnover some in that town, with some new development in the works.
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Really?

Greenon's last, best year was 2021, 6-3 and Bethel was 2022 at 4-6. Since 2021, GreeNON is 13-27 and Bethel is 10-32 (I drink a lot and may have missed a game or three). Regardless of growth, these are not the W/L records any conference should consider to expand. Then to make matters worse (beyond travel to Bethel for the Adults), adding sub performing schools to a conference that has an appearance of being watered-down in the first place, these are not two schools that would bolster the strength of conference.

Dude, you always bring a clear perspective and agree with you more often than not but, in this case,...Greenon has always had that WPAFB military influence, Speedway (7/11) populace since god knows when. Fairborn peeps looking for better education and Shawnee kids looking for FFA and even with the SE transfers in the early 2000s, that has never, ever paid dividends for them. Though I do get the GreeNon 2.0; Bethel, not so much. I would have rather the CBC try to have poached Riverside.
 
RollingTrain said:
So in the last 10 years Bethel has had two seasons over .500 and beaten four teams with a winning record, two of which came against Dayton Christian. Brilliant move!🤯🥴 And they are 50-70 min away from three of the KT teams. Brilliant!

And we don’t even want to talk about Greenon athletics. They’ve already had one failed stint in the CBC.
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Remember. Betel just built new schools that by the time the buildings were finished, they needed more space!
Bethel is being overrun by foreigners and will soon be DIV.
 
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