For what it is worth, I said you should only play 1 of those teams. Don't be a Louisville and think you get bonus points for playing schedules like that.
Canfield Cardinals Schedule and Outlook for 2023
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simkon
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Other posters previously have suggested they play all of the above, in addition to most of the teams they currently play. I apologize for not being more clear.
simkon
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Cal Preps is one source and using the formula that Drew utilizes as well. But as of the moment it is based on values from the end of last season, so there will certainly be some variability as the season goes on.
simkon
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Here is a photo from the early 90s, I had a Rach as coach the following year.
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Crimson and Black
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You know, when I quoted “Drew” by saying he had ranked Steubenvilles schedule as the toughest in D4, I believe it was you who peed all over it and said it wasn’t true because they played too many out state teams etc. Maybe I’m wrong that it was you and if I am I apologize. I don’t have the patience to go back through the entire thread. But you cannot quote Drew when it’s what you like but poo poo him when you don’t like what says.
simkon
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Drew did not say anything, I was just utilizing his formula. Drew does not have anything posted or published for the upcoming season, I did all the calculations myself for all the teams that appeared to have tough schedules.
Can you share?
simkon
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This is Canfield for instance, it would be too complicated and convoluted to show the full calculations or every single team, but this should give you a basic, general idea.
08/18 vs West Branch [opponent rating: 22.9]
08/25 at Mansfield [opponent rating: 28.3]
09/01 vs Olmsted Falls [opponent rating: 29.7]
09/08 at Poland Seminary [opponent rating: 13.9]
09/15 vs Chaney [opponent rating: 22.4]
09/22 vs Dover [opponent rating: 15.5]
10/06 vs Holy Name [opponent rating: 29.6]
10/12 at Howland [opponent rating: -25.8]
10/20 at Boardman [opponent rating: 10.1]
Actually, I have to give the AD credit. This independent schedule for a D3 school is very good. You have 4 local "rival" games, 2 local area games in Dover and WB that are very good competition and all should be excellent games to watch. The 3 games of Holy Name, Olmsted & Mansfield will be good games for Canfield to get ready for playoffs.
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Camp Update:
First full day of pads today! (No hitting until Monday)
Rumblings I've heard:
QB competition still going, mark one down in "heavy" pencil, some real speed/elusiveness from the younger guys (Could the future be now)?
(2) RB's with outstanding speed and quickness. Maybe one of the best 1/2 punches in the area? Both a threat to go the distance on any play. Should be a fun duo.
OL has been progressing. Two returning anchors and two other holes filled in very nicely so far, need one more young guy to step up. IF it breaks right, this could turn into a strength.
Maybe a surprise guy, length and hands are there, more speed?
DL will be rock solid and running inside should be tough sledding for any team. Developing depth to give the starters a few plays off will be essential.
LB should be a strength on this team. Again depth is needed.
Secondary with 3 of 4 back. Will be solid and for the most part very athletic. Possible new starter adds to the speed.
As stated earlier, with such a large class graduating, developing spot starters and backups amongst the younger guys has been a focus. Coach Pavlansky has stated that the coaches will play to the players strengths. I'd expect to see a return of the mid teens Canfield offense. Some young guys will absolutely get a chance to play, more so than the past couple of years, which should help this team in the future. First scrimmage at Salem is a week away. First game vs. West Branch in 3 weeks.
First full day of pads today! (No hitting until Monday)
Rumblings I've heard:
QB competition still going, mark one down in "heavy" pencil, some real speed/elusiveness from the younger guys (Could the future be now)?
(2) RB's with outstanding speed and quickness. Maybe one of the best 1/2 punches in the area? Both a threat to go the distance on any play. Should be a fun duo.
OL has been progressing. Two returning anchors and two other holes filled in very nicely so far, need one more young guy to step up. IF it breaks right, this could turn into a strength.
Maybe a surprise guy, length and hands are there, more speed?
DL will be rock solid and running inside should be tough sledding for any team. Developing depth to give the starters a few plays off will be essential.
LB should be a strength on this team. Again depth is needed.
Secondary with 3 of 4 back. Will be solid and for the most part very athletic. Possible new starter adds to the speed.
As stated earlier, with such a large class graduating, developing spot starters and backups amongst the younger guys has been a focus. Coach Pavlansky has stated that the coaches will play to the players strengths. I'd expect to see a return of the mid teens Canfield offense. Some young guys will absolutely get a chance to play, more so than the past couple of years, which should help this team in the future. First scrimmage at Salem is a week away. First game vs. West Branch in 3 weeks.
It probably reads as being a bit on the homer side, and I wouldn't say every position is a strength, but there is at least one and sometimes 2 above average players at each level. How they fill in around those guys will determine how their season goes. The schedule is definitely tougher than last year on paper.
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RB's with outstanding speed? Are you saying these two backs are running 4.4 or 4.5 40's?
Yes. Both backs run in the 4.5's.
McMurphy
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Yes, they should be breaking off long runs this year then. Did they run track? Surprised I didn't hear about them
I believe one ran track, the other plays baseball.
simkon
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Excepting when Canfield was down and the games weren't particularly competitive for a few years and the rivalry was discontinued for several years. Dover on the otherhand has been consistently good for the past 20 years roughly.
Journey
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Dover made playoffs like 3 times in the 80s and 3 times in the 90s, back when that was something to hang your hat on. Dover is #7 all time on Ohio wins lists. We’ve always been good!
simkon
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I was just saying you have not had any down years since first starting the series almost 20 years ago.
#11 ran track. Had a good sophmore season. Pulled his hamstring the first meet junior year. Didn't run again until county meet. Tweaked it again in districts. Hamstring is fine for football. Track career is over!! lol Football Camp 40 times are suspect but he ran 2 sub 4.5 40's at The Pitt Camp going into his junior season.
Repeat? I wouldn’t say that. They can be pretty good, but have a super tough schedule, not many cupcakes. Then in the playoffs region 9 is loaded with teams like Chardon, Aurora and others. If they get to semis will most likely meet up with defending D2 state champs TCC who maybe a top 5 team in the whole state.
@Penguin45 @wghfan is correct Inglis is fast and tweaked a hammy in track, Eaton ran 4.5 at camps, and Mazella ran the 100 in track they definitely have some speed.
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I don’t understand the infatuation with Aurora. They are decent, but never a real contender.
330Football
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I think this year will be a chardon/Ursuline regional champ
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Danny Inglis ran 11.28 as a sophomore but had hamstring issues this last track season. He is certainly a 4.5ish guy. He is committed to Iowa St and will play on the defensive side of the ball.
Scrimmage Vs. Salem Round Up:
This is not meant to disparage Salem, but they seemed young and small. I don't know to much about their program. That being said, the Canfield offense ran the ball at will. The 1's scored 3 times, with 3 touchdowns by both backs. #11 had a long TD of about 40+ yards and a short one, #10 had a short one. Both backs had really nice long runs. Canfield's starting QB played fairly well (you can probably get ready to put is name in marker), although no running from QB's was allowed. The defense was solid. Shout out to Canfield CB #4 on a nice hit on a quick pass, and the play of the starting LB's. Salem's 1's on offense were not able to move the ball consistently and didn't threaten to score, even in the red zone portion of the scrimmage. The negatives I would take away for Canfield would be the one glaring hole on the OL and a lack of depth at some positions (this was always going to be the case, especially early in the season). That being said, they looked ok for their first action of the year. Louisville should provide a tougher test this Thursday for the last scrimmage. Hard to believe it's less than 2 weeks until the season opener. Final note. There were a lot of WB players in attendance.
This is not meant to disparage Salem, but they seemed young and small. I don't know to much about their program. That being said, the Canfield offense ran the ball at will. The 1's scored 3 times, with 3 touchdowns by both backs. #11 had a long TD of about 40+ yards and a short one, #10 had a short one. Both backs had really nice long runs. Canfield's starting QB played fairly well (you can probably get ready to put is name in marker), although no running from QB's was allowed. The defense was solid. Shout out to Canfield CB #4 on a nice hit on a quick pass, and the play of the starting LB's. Salem's 1's on offense were not able to move the ball consistently and didn't threaten to score, even in the red zone portion of the scrimmage. The negatives I would take away for Canfield would be the one glaring hole on the OL and a lack of depth at some positions (this was always going to be the case, especially early in the season). That being said, they looked ok for their first action of the year. Louisville should provide a tougher test this Thursday for the last scrimmage. Hard to believe it's less than 2 weeks until the season opener. Final note. There were a lot of WB players in attendance.