B10 Pre-Seeds - IOWA Slim Favorite

[bdhof]

A funny thing happened on the way to the B10. PSU went from a solid favorite (26 pts margin over IOWA) to a slight underdog (3.5 pts). The Pre-pre-seeds I listed a few days ago were based on national rankings and not B10 rankings. I mentioned a few weights where the pre-pre-seeds were likely off (197 & 285). Some others were as well. Obviously, 3.5 pts is a coin flip for the B10 title. But IOWA looks to be in a much stronger position that I had imagined. And MICH is also in a stronger position, but still down 13.5 to IOWA. Their 10 pts deficit to PSU could make things interesting. tOSU, as expected, is behind NEB for 4th, but at just 8.5 pts, it's what I always considered the margin of error (~10 pts). These pts are based on the assumption that everyone places where they are seeded (news flash- it never happens), and excludes bonus pts. An IOWA challenge will make the B10s more interesting than what I expected to be a PSU power play.

 

[bdhof]

B10s
1 IOWA 121.5
2 PSU 118
3 MICH 108
4 NEB 87.5
5 tOSU 79
6 WIS 60.5
7 NW 52
8 MSU 50
9 RUT 41.5
10 MINN 40.5
11 PUR 40.5
12 ILL 26
13 IND 9.5
14 MARY 5.5

 

[bdhof]

125 lbs. (10 allocations)
1. Nick Suriano (MICH)
2. Drew Hildebrandt (PSU)
3. Eric Barnett (WIS)
4. Malik Heinselman (OSU)
5. Devin Schroder (PUR)
6. Drake Ayala (IOWA)
7. Michael DeAugustino (NU)
8. Patrick McKee (MINN)
9. Dylan Shawver (RU)
10. Justin Cardani (ILL)
11. Tristan Lujan (MSU)
12. Jacob Moran (IND)
13. Jeremiah Reno (NEB)
14. Zach Spence (MD)

133 lbs. (10 allocations)
1. Roman Bravo-Young (PSU)
2. Austin DeSanto (IOWA)
3. Lucas Byrd (ILL)
4. RayVon Foley (MSU)
5. Dylan Ragusin (MICH)
6. Brock Hudkins (IND)
7. Chris Cannon (NU)
8. Joe Olivieri (RU)
9. Matt Ramos (PUR)
10. Dominick Serrano (NEB)
11. Kyle Burwick (WIS)
12. Jake Gliva (MINN)
13. King Sandoval (MD)
14. Dylan Koontz (OSU)

141 lbs. (7 allocations)
1. Nick Lee (PSU)
2. Jaydin Eierman (IOWA)
3. Sebastian Rivera (RU)
4. Chad Red (NEB)
5. Jakob Bergeland (MINN)
6. Stevan Micic (MICH)
7. Dylan D'Emilio (OSU)
8. Joseph Zargo (WIS)
9. Dylan Duncan (ILL)
10. Frankie Tel Shahar (NU)
11. Parker Filius (PUR)
12. Matt Santos (MSU)
13. Cayden Rooks (IND)
14. Danny Bertoni (MD)

149 lbs. (7 allocations)
1. Sammy Sasso (OSU)
2. Austin Gomez (WIS)
3. Ridge Lovett (NEB)
4. Max Murin (IOWA)
5. Yahya Thomas (NU)
6. Mike Van Brill (RU)
7. Beau Bartlett (PSU)
8. Christian Kanzler (ILL)
9. Graham Rooks (IND)
10. Michael Bockhus (MINN)
11. Kanen Storr (MICH)
12. Michael North (MD)
13. Peyton Omania (MSU)
14. Alec White (PUR)

157 lbs. (7 allocations)
1. Ryan Deakin (NU)
2. Kaleb Young (IOWA)
3. Will Lewan (MICH)
4. Kendall Coleman (PUR)
5. Peyton Robb (NEB)
6. Chase Saldate (MSU)
7. Garrett Model (WIS)
8. Robert Kanniard (RU)
9. Bryce Hepner (OSU)
10. Brady Berge (PSU)
11. Derek Gilcher (IND)
12. Joe Roberts (ILL)
13. Lucas Cordio (MD)
14. Sebas Swiggum (MINN)

165 lbs. (7 allocations)
1. Carson Kharchla (OSU)
2. Alex Marinelli (IOWA)
3. Dean Hamiti (WIS)
4. Cameron Amine (MICH)
5. Caleb Fish (MSU)
6. Dan Braunagel (ILL)
7. Hayden Lohrey (PUR)
8. Clayton Wilson (NEB)
9. Cael Carlson (MINN)
10. Creighton Edsell (PSU)
11. David Ferrante (NU)
12. Andrew Clark (RU)
13. Kasper McIntosh (IND)
14. Gaven Bell (MD)

174 lbs. (8 allocations)
1. Carter Starocci (PSU)
2. Logan Massa (MICH)
3. Mikey Labriola (NEB)
4, Michael Kemerer (IOWA)
5. Ethan Smith (OSU)
6. Bailee O'Reilly (MINN)
7. Gerrit Nijenhuis (PUR)
8. Troy Fisher (NU)
9. Dominic Solic (MD)
10. DJ Shannon (ILL)
11. Andrew McNally (WIS)
12. Nick South (IND)
13. Connor O'Neill (RUT)
14. Nate Jimenez (MSU)

184 lbs. (12 allocations)
1. Aaron Brooks (PSU)
2. Myles Amine (MICH)
3. Kaleb Romero (OSU)
4. Taylor Venz (NEB)
5. Abe Assad (IOWA)
6. Layne Malczewski (MSU)
7. John Pozanski (RU)
8. Kyle Cochran (MD)
9. DJ Washington (IND)
10. Isaiah Salazar (MINN)
11. Christopher Weiler (WIS)
12. Zach Braunagel (ILL)
13. Max Lyon (PUR)
14. Jack Jessen (NU)

197 lbs. (11 allocations)
1. Eric Schultz (NEB)
2. Max Dean (PSU)
3. Cameron Caffey (MSU)
4. Jacob Warner (IOWA)
5. Patrick Bucki (MICH)
6. Thomas Penola (PUR)
7. Greg Bulsak (RU)
8. Braxton Amos (WIS)
9. Gavin Hoffman (OSU)
10. Andrew Davison (NU)
11. Jaron Smith (MD)
12. Michial Foy (MINN)
13. Nick Willham (IND)
14. Matt Wroblewski (ILL)

285 lbs. (9 allocations)
1. Gable Steveson (MINN)
2. Tony Cassioppi (IOWA)
3. Greg Kerkvliet (PSU)
4. Mason Parris (MICH)
5. Lucas Davison (NU)
6. Christian Lance (NEB)
7. Trent Hillger (WIS)
8. Tate Orndorff (OSU)
9. Luke Luffman (ILL)
10. Jacob Bullock (IND)
11. Michael Woulfe (PUR)
12. Boone McDermott (RU)
13. Brad Wilton (MSU)
14. Zach Schrader (MD)

 

[MitSulHer]

Any info on how Hepner landed back in the lineup? Was he injured? 7 spots at 157. Does he has an avenue to make it? I like Bryce. He has always been a gamer since the youth days.

157 lbs. (7 allocations)
1. Ryan Deakin (NU)
2. Kaleb Young (IOWA)
3. Will Lewan (MICH)
4. Kendall Coleman (PUR)
5. Peyton Robb (NEB)
6. Chase Saldate (MSU)
7. Garrett Model (WIS)
8. Robert Kanniard (RU)
9. Bryce Hepner (OSU)
10. Brady Berge (PSU)

 

[MPhillips]

Any info on how Hepner landed back in the lineup? Was he injured? 7 spots at 157. Does he has an avenue to make it? I like Bryce. He has always been a gamer since the youth days.

157 lbs. (7 allocations)
1. Ryan Deakin (NU)
2. Kaleb Young (IOWA)
3. Will Lewan (MICH)
4. Kendall Coleman (PUR)
5. Peyton Robb (NEB)
6. Chase Saldate (MSU)
7. Garrett Model (WIS)
8. Robert Kanniard (RU)
9. Bryce Hepner (OSU)
10. Brady Berge (PSU)

I believe Berge is getting one of those allocations. Makes it even tougher.

 

[Wrestlingfan21]

Any info on how Hepner landed back in the lineup? Was he injured? 7 spots at 157. Does he has an avenue to make it? I like Bryce. He has always been a gamer since the youth days.

157 lbs. (7 allocations)
1. Ryan Deakin (NU)
2. Kaleb Young (IOWA)
3. Will Lewan (MICH)
4. Kendall Coleman (PUR)
5. Peyton Robb (NEB)
6. Chase Saldate (MSU)
7. Garrett Model (WIS)
8. Robert Kanniard (RU)
9. Bryce Hepner (OSU)
10. Brady Berge (PSU)

He was out for awhile, don't know the exact reason, I've heard a couple, including injury, but im not gonna speculate. I believe he won a wrestle off last week and he can qualify. He will have Deakin 2nd round if he wins first round, then likely would need an upset in Consis

 

[WeAre]

A funny thing happened on the way to the B10. PSU went from a solid favorite (26 pts margin over IOWA) to a slight underdog (2.5 pts). The Pre-pre-seeds I listed a few days ago were based on national rankings and not B10 rankings. I mentioned a few weights where the pre-pre-seeds were likely off (197 & 285). Some others were as well. Obviously, 2.5 pts is a coin flip for the B10 title. But IOWA looks to be in a much stronger position that I had imagined. And MICH is also in a stronger position, but still down 15.5 to IOWA. Their 13 pts deficit to PSU could make things interesting. tOSU, as expected, is behind NEB for 4th, but at just 7.5 pts, it's what I always considered the margin of error (~10 pts). These pts are based on the assumption that everyone places where they are seeded (news flash- it never happens), and excludes bonus pts. An IOWA challenge will make the B10s more interesting than what I expected to be a PSU power play.

bonus points are a PSU staple, so I'd still say they're 10+ pts. clear of Iowa.

 

[WeAre]

I believe Berge is getting one of those allocations. Makes it even tougher.

agree... I don't think Berge has ever lost to Young or Lewan, so his seeding is conflicting (talent vs rust).

 

[Yankeefan33]

agree... I don't think Berge has ever lost to Young or Lewan, so his seeding is conflicting (talent vs rust).

Berge only has two matches this year at 157, both to the same guy. They seed based on this year's results

 

[Mr.wrsln2]

Go Lady Lions!?

 

[bdhof]

bonus points are a PSU staple, so I'd still say they're 10+ pts. clear of Iowa.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see PSU win by 10 - also wouldn’t be surprised to see IOWA win. Having 6 byes first round doesn’t help the bonus points, although IOWA has 5.

 

[MPhillips]

Having 6 byes first round doesn’t help the bonus points.

BINGO!

 

[MPhillips]

Heads up for folks that don't have B1G+.

2022 B1G Wrestling Championship Schedule BTN/BTN+

Saturday, March 5
Session I: First Round, Quarterfinals, Wrestlebacks 11 a.m. ET B1G
Session II: Wrestlebacks 6:30 p.m. ET B1G+
Session III: Semi Finals 8:30 p.m. ET B1G

Sunday, March 6
Session IV: Consolation Semifinals, 7th-Place Matches 12:00 pm ET B1G+
Session V: Finals 4:30 p.m. ET B1G
Session V: 3rd-and 5th- Place Matches 4:30 p.m. ET B1G+

 

[bdhof]

I believe Berge is getting one of those allocations. Makes it even tougher.

Berge is a HUGE question mark. He was a bronze medalist at the JR Worlds in 2019 and considered a bright young PSU star. He RS'ed his 2018 FR season and wrestled at 157. As a SO he was forced to go 149 w/ Nickel at 157 and had an OK year going R16 in NCAAs. In 2020 he got KO'ed (concussion) at an international event (maybe U23s) prior to the season, but was ranked as high as #4 (I think). He wrestled 1 match in Dec, then was on the shelf until his comeback back match in Feb vs journeyman, Kinner tOSU. He lost that match and was done for the season. He came back last year making his first start on 1/30. He finished R12 at NCAAs. Everyone thought he had called it quits, and took an asst coaching job at Ohio U. He quit the job and returned to PSU to fill their void at 165, making his debut on 1/16 of this year. He had 3 wins there, his most impressive being 3-1 over #9 Amine MICH and was MD'ed by Marinelli IOWA. On 2/20 he dropped to 157 and won 2 MD's over some FR from Rider who is 2-9 on the season and ranked #166 on wrestlestats. He could steal one of those 7 allocations, or go 0-2. I would say that he's the Hunter Stieber of PSU ("Wait until Hunter gets back!"), except that Hunter has 2 AA's on his resume. I wish him the best, as he has gone thru a lot w/ concussions, but he's certainly not the guy who was at one time ranked #4.

 

[MPhillips]

Berge is a HUGE question mark.

I don't think he is. I think he qualifies easily. "Book it Danno."

You forgot to mention he is also an assistant coach at SDSU taking a leave of absence.

 

[bdhof]

I don't think he is. I think he qualifies easily. "Book it Danno."

You forgot to mention he is also an assistant coach at SDSU taking a leave of absence.

And had a 5 year volunteer gig at OK

 

[bdhof]

I don't think he is. I think he qualifies easily. "Book it Danno."

You forgot to mention he is also an assistant coach at SDSU taking a leave of absence.

Put your money where your mouth is. I didn't see him as your #10 on Pick'Em. ???

Instead you picked some guy who had a car named after him. ?

 

[MPhillips]

And had a 5 year volunteer gig at OK

I'm not sure what that means, but I'm slow sometimes. Is that a joke that went over my head...

 

[MPhillips]

Put your money where your mouth is. I didn't see him as your #10 on Pick'Em. ???

Do I get more points if he finishes above his seed?

 

[bdhof]

I'm not sure what that means, but I'm slow sometimes. Is that a joke that went over my head...

Oops. I switched from Berge to Hunter (Volunteer assistant coach under Rosselli)

 

[bdhof]

Do I get more points if he finishes above his seed?

I can’t give away all the Pick’Em scoring secrets ?

 

[MPhillips]

Oops.

That about covers it.

Now back to Pick'Em. What are the rules exactly so that the new folks know what to expect.

 

[bdhof]

That about covers it.

Now back to Pick'Em. What are the rules exactly so that the new folks know what to expect.

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[MPhillips]

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bdhof, You're off your game today my friend. ?
The people want to know;
How do you score?
Do you get more pts for a lower seed placing higher?
Do you get more points for your pick if they finish their seed?
I don't want to give the wrong answers here.

 

[bdhof]

bdhof, You're off your game today my friend. ?
The people want to know;
How do you score?
Do you get more pts for a lower seed placing higher?
Do you get more points for your pick if they finish their seed?
I don't want to give the wrong answers here.

I’m always slow on Thursday. And it’s the wrong thread for this but I’ll post it on the Pick’Em thread as well. You get as many points (team pts not match pts) as your wrestlers score. So, to your earlier question, if you expect a 10 seed (Berge) to get 0 points (as projected) and he places higher (let’s say 7th), he’d score 5.5 + bonus points if any.

So, yes, if a wrestler places higher than his seed he would score more points than expected.

In essence, you are picking a team - let's say draft picks. Per the draft pick rules, you only get a #1 seed, 1 #2 seed, etc. to fill you team. You take your team to the B10s and however many pts they score (advancement + placement + bonus), that's your team score.

I go on trackwrestling to find pts scored for each wrestler. How'd I do my friend, MP?

 

[bdhof]

I’m always slow on Thursday. And it’s the wrong thread for this but I’ll post it on the Pick’Em thread as well. You get as many points (team pts not match pts) as your wrestlers score. So, to your earlier question, if you expect a 10 seed (Berge) to get 0 points (as projected) and he places higher (let’s say 7th), he’d score 5.5 + bonus points if any.

So, yes, if a wrestler places higher than his seed he would score more points than expected.

In essence, you are picking a team - let's say draft picks. Per the draft pick rules, you only get a #1 seed, 1 #2 seed, etc. to fill you team. You take your team to the B10s and however many pts they score (advancement + placement + bonus), that's your team score.

I go on trackwrestling to find pts scored for each wrestler. How'd I do my friend, MP?

If you want the detail version, it goes like this:
Advancement pts in championship bracket = 1 pt
Advancement pts in conso bracket = 0.5 pt
No advancement pts given for final match in 1st/2nd, 3rd/4th, 5th/6th, & 7th/8th.
Bonus pts = 1 pt for MD, 1.5 pt for TF, 2 pts for pin
Placement pts = 16 pts for 1st, 12 pts for 2nd, 10 pts for 3rd, 9 pts for 4th, 7 pts for 5th, 6 pts for 6th, 4 pts for 7th, 3 pts for 8th.
Note: Placement pts are given as soon as the placement is guaranteed. So, when wrestlers advance to semis, they are guaranteed 6th place and given 6 pts (plus 1 pt advancement). If they win the semi match they are guaranteed 2nd place and given 6 more pts for a total of 12 placement pts (plus 1 pt advancement).

MP, declare "mercy" when you've had enough.

 

[bdhof]

bonus points are a PSU staple, so I'd still say they're 10+ pts. clear of Iowa.

And just to make the PSU fans angry, I've adjusted the scores and now PSU trails by 3.5 instead of 2.5. And yes, it's still a coin flip. The B10 use to only seed 14 in weights where all 14 were seeded. For the past few years they started seeding all 10 weights. Byes were randomly selected when they didn't seed all 14, so I gave advancement pts not knowing where the byes were going to be. Now I know, and the #1 and #2 seeds get the byes and have 1 less advancement pt. MICH pulled w/in 10 pts of PSU w/ the adjustment. And tOSU is now 8.5 behind NEB. Should be a good one.

 

[MPhillips]

No bonus for the top two seeds makes a difference...

 

[MPhillips]

How'd I do my friend, MP?

I think you gave a good account of yourself. The masses are grateful...

 

[WeAre]

Berge is a HUGE question mark. He was a bronze medalist at the JR Worlds in 2019 and considered a bright young PSU star. He RS'ed his 2018 FR season and wrestled at 157. As a SO he was forced to go 149 w/ Nickel at 157 and had an OK year going R16 in NCAAs. In 2020 he got KO'ed (concussion) at an international event (maybe U23s) prior to the season, but was ranked as high as #4 (I think). He wrestled 1 match in Dec, then was on the shelf until his comeback back match in Feb vs journeyman, Kinner tOSU. He lost that match and was done for the season. He came back last year making his first start on 1/30. He finished R12 at NCAAs. Everyone thought he had called it quits, and took an asst coaching job at Ohio U. He quit the job and returned to PSU to fill their void at 165, making his debut on 1/16 of this year. He had 3 wins there, his most impressive being 3-1 over #9 Amine MICH and was MD'ed by Marinelli IOWA. On 2/20 he dropped to 157 and won 2 MD's over some FR from Rider who is 2-9 on the season and ranked #166 on wrestlestats. He could steal one of those 7 allocations, or go 0-2. I would say that he's the Hunter Stieber of PSU ("Wait until Hunter gets back!"), except that Hunter has 2 AA's on his resume. I wish him the best, as he has gone thru a lot w/ concussions, but he's certainly not the guy who was at one time ranked #4.

excellent comparison, lol!