2024 Three Rivers conference

BucksFan937 said:
TV over MU as well. Arcanum vs Miami East would be a good game. Arcanum played WLS closer in the playoffs than Miami East did this year. Sure, I know Covington beat Arcanum week 1, but they are a very young team that was much different by the end of the year. The lower end games would be lopsided for the TRC, outside of Dixie/TC, because both teams did so poorly, it's hard to even predict that one.
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I believe Milton wins that matchup more times than not. I do agree you could argue things changed as the year went along. But, my mind is probably biased by what did happen week one more than what may have changed since week one. And since humans are biased, that's why I prefer to let a computer decide, like was laid out many posts back. (Post 421 page 15)

Edit: Having said that, I do acknowledge the computer does not compensate for injuries, or for improvement. So, if all WOAC teams improved greatly after week 1, and all TRC teams went straight into the toilet as the season went along, then yes, the computer will be off. But until someone can prove WOAC improved immensely while TRC did not, results are all we have to really definitively go on. The computer says 6 of the bottom 7 teams of the two conferences combined are WOAC teams. That's a pretty strong indicator to me.
 
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If you're looking to project scores look at calpreps.com They have a project a match up link. They are pretty similar to Fantastic50 as far as score predictions but it allows you to look at teams who don't play each other.
 
Ahh here we go again. I’m not sure where the size comment came about. Every single one of the LC lineman were bigger than Ansonia’s.

Ansonia’s Oline still did whatever they wanted averaging 7.3 yards a carry. The big fella 55 was getting launched into the next dimension despite being in a D1 body. Ansonia on the Dline rushed 3 and Lehman still couldn’t run the ball.

Using week 1 games to predict who would win said games between 2 teams is laughable. I do recall a few in here saying LC would win this game if not keep it within a score or two. Certainly not a running clock.

Also have never heard so much hate towards a post game win celebration tradition than I did a week ago.
 
Ansonia Football Enjoyer said:
Ansonia and PS beat anyone in the TRC. Point blank. So go with that as you please
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As long as it's not week 1, the teams their facing do not begin with the letter R, C, B, W, L or N and the weather is above 35 degrees Fahrenheit but below 80 degrees Fahrenheit, the referee's are from the Preble or Dark county area, and no key players are missing from said WOAC teams.

Under those conditions they might just beat about any TRC team.
 
Ansonia Football Enjoyer said:
Using week 1 games to predict who would win said games between 2 teams is laughable.
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So is patting yourself on the back because your team had blowout loss to the eventual state champ

Ansonia Football Enjoyer said:
Ansonia and PS beat anyone in the TRC. Point blank. So go with that as you please
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This year? Perhaps. Most years? I highly doubt it.

I think the biggest indicator that the WOAC is bad can be extrapolated by looking at Preble.

In the SWBL, Preble was consistently a middle of the road or outright bad team. Occasionally they'd pull together a 7 win season, but more often than not, they were under .500.

I'll go back serveral years just for fun:
2005: 1-9
2006: 5-5
2007: 1-9
2008: 2-8
2009: 3-7
2010: 3-7
2011: 2-8
2012: 0-10
2013: 3-7
2014: 5-5
2015: 3-7
2016: 6-4
2017: 7-3
2018: 3-7
2019: 5-5
2020: 3-4
2021: 13-1
2022: 8-4
2023: 8-4
2024: 10-2

After decades of mediocrity, in 2021, Preble Shawnee got really good at football. Or they changed conferences and the competition on the schedule was easier for them.

The difference between the WOAC and the TRC is that the WOAC took bad teams from the CCC/SWBL and didn't add any good teams. Naturally, someone has to rise to the top and win. Evidently that was Ansonia and Preble.

The TRC, on the other hand, took perennially decent schools in Milton, Riverside, and Miami East. Just so happens this year all of those schools are down, so someone else rose to the top: Lehman and Ridge.

So yes, this year potentially Ansonia and Preble could beat the top TRC opponents. On an average year, I doubt it. An "average" Milton/East team probably easily dispatch either.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
 
The Punisher said:
So is patting yourself on the back because your team had blowout loss to the eventual state champ



This year? Perhaps. Most years? I highly doubt it.

I think the biggest indicator that the WOAC is bad can be extrapolated by looking at Preble.

In the SWBL, Preble was consistently a middle of the road or outright bad team. Occasionally they'd pull together a 7 win season, but more often than not, they were under .500.

I'll go back serveral years just for fun:
2005: 1-9
2006: 5-5
2007: 1-9
2008: 2-8
2009: 3-7
2010: 3-7
2011: 2-8
2012: 0-10
2013: 3-7
2014: 5-5
2015: 3-7
2016: 6-4
2017: 7-3
2018: 3-7
2019: 5-5
2020: 3-4
2021: 13-1
2022: 8-4
2023: 8-4
2024: 10-2

After decades of mediocrity, in 2021, Preble Shawnee got really good at football. Or they changed conferences and the competition on the schedule was easier for them.

The difference between the WOAC and the TRC is that the WOAC took bad teams from the CCC/SWBL and didn't add any good teams. Naturally, someone has to rise to the top and win. Evidently that was Ansonia and Preble.

The TRC, on the other hand, took perennially decent schools in Milton, Riverside, and Miami East. Just so happens this year all of those schools are down, so someone else rose to the top: Lehman and Ridge.

So yes, this year potentially Ansonia and Preble could beat the top TRC opponents. On an average year, I doubt it. An "average" Milton/East team probably easily dispatch either.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
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Two winning years out of 16 until they entered the WOAC and now have four winning years in a row.

Troy Christian is another example going the opposite direction. They defeated every current WOAC team they faced in 2016 and most games were not close. I believe there were 6 wins that year against future WOAC teams. Once they got into the TRC wins do not come very easily for them.
 
The Punisher said:
So is patting yourself on the back because your team had blowout loss to the eventual state champ



This year? Perhaps. Most years? I highly doubt it.

I think the biggest indicator that the WOAC is bad can be extrapolated by looking at Preble.

In the SWBL, Preble was consistently a middle of the road or outright bad team. Occasionally they'd pull together a 7 win season, but more often than not, they were under .500.

I'll go back serveral years just for fun:
2005: 1-9
2006: 5-5
2007: 1-9
2008: 2-8
2009: 3-7
2010: 3-7
2011: 2-8
2012: 0-10
2013: 3-7
2014: 5-5
2015: 3-7
2016: 6-4
2017: 7-3
2018: 3-7
2019: 5-5
2020: 3-4
2021: 13-1
2022: 8-4
2023: 8-4
2024: 10-2

After decades of mediocrity, in 2021, Preble Shawnee got really good at football. Or they changed conferences and the competition on the schedule was easier for them.

The difference between the WOAC and the TRC is that the WOAC took bad teams from the CCC/SWBL and didn't add any good teams. Naturally, someone has to rise to the top and win. Evidently that was Ansonia and Preble.

The TRC, on the other hand, took perennially decent schools in Milton, Riverside, and Miami East. Just so happens this year all of those schools are down, so someone else rose to the top: Lehman and Ridge.

So yes, this year potentially Ansonia and Preble could beat the top TRC opponents. On an average year, I doubt it. An "average" Milton/East team probably easily dispatch either.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
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The 3 basement dwellers left the SWBL, only MU was generally competitive in the conference this century. That's why Madison has been in a tizzy, they lost 3 wins a year.
 
Ansonia Football Enjoyer said:
TRC had quite the playoff run with the only wins coming against fellow TRC members. Then the following week getting 60 hung on them.
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Yep. I have a feeling the Ansonia season is slipping away, in about two hours from now they will be at the exact same place all of the TRC teams are, "finished ".
 
That slam you just heard was mighty Ansonia hitting the earth. Games essentially over now at end of first. This was not the exciting finish I expected from the top of the WOAC.
 
D4fan said:
How long has coach Hall been at Ansonia?
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22-23 was his first season. So on his 3rd year now.

**knocking on wood** but Hall has not lost a home game since he’s taken over @ Ansonia. Keeping Macy the extra 2 years really set Ansonia back in my opinion. There was a ton of talent on those rosters thst Macy did nothing with.
 
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