Huckleberry
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Will wrestle in the finals of the last chance qualifier against Kolodzik.
Oh yeah, I know, " he's a 17yo sophomore... blah blah blah."
Oh yeah, I know, " he's a 17yo sophomore... blah blah blah."
Bassett just teched former NCAA champ Ashnault
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Huckleberry
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Jax Forrest also in the finals - vs Tomasello.
And Jax Forrest just teched Tomasello in the finals
I believe he is a sophomore as well
Huckleberry
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Yes, he is. But he’s not 15, so it doesn’t count. (Sarcasm, for those who are a little dense).
Yankeefan33
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Last Chance Qualifier final results:
57kg- Jax Forrest over Nate Tomasello 10-0
65kg- Matt Kolodzik over Bo Bassett 10-0
74kg- Cenzo Joseph over Yahya Thomas 2-0
86kg- David McFadden over Morgan McIntosh 12-2
97kg- Christian Carroll over Camden McDanel 11-0
125kg- Jaron Smith over Jacob Bullock 6-5
Obviously the story of the day was the performance of the high schoolers. Forrest won 57kg, Bassett finished 2nd at 65kg, Anthony Knox lost 7-7 to NCAA runner up Brandon Courtney, Aden Valencia finished 4th at 65kg, Pierson Manville beat Ian Parker before losing 8-5 to Ashnault, Joe Sealey lost 1-1 to Yahya Thomas, Cole Mirasola finished 4th at 97kg. Lots of great stuff from the young freestyle guys.
57kg- Jax Forrest over Nate Tomasello 10-0
65kg- Matt Kolodzik over Bo Bassett 10-0
74kg- Cenzo Joseph over Yahya Thomas 2-0
86kg- David McFadden over Morgan McIntosh 12-2
97kg- Christian Carroll over Camden McDanel 11-0
125kg- Jaron Smith over Jacob Bullock 6-5
Obviously the story of the day was the performance of the high schoolers. Forrest won 57kg, Bassett finished 2nd at 65kg, Anthony Knox lost 7-7 to NCAA runner up Brandon Courtney, Aden Valencia finished 4th at 65kg, Pierson Manville beat Ian Parker before losing 8-5 to Ashnault, Joe Sealey lost 1-1 to Yahya Thomas, Cole Mirasola finished 4th at 97kg. Lots of great stuff from the young freestyle guys.
Yankeefan33
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Didn't want to make a thread or anything, but I have full Olympic trials qualifier info from the last three Trials and have fun stuff to share.
Wrestlers who qualified (not necessarily wrestled) for 2016, 2020, and 2024 Olympic trials:
57kg- Joe Colon, Nahshon Garrett
65kg- James Green, Logan Stieber, Zain Retherford
74kg- Jordan Burroughs, Kyle Dake, Alex Dieringer
86kg- David Taylor, J'Den Cox
97kg- Kyle Snyder
125kg- Nick Gwiazdowski, Dom Bradley
High Schoolers to qualify for Olympic Trials
2016- Mark Hall
2020-
2024- Luke Lilledahl, Jax Forrest, Marcus Blaze, LaDarion Lockett (Paul Kenny also qualified, but is too young to compete)
2024 Olympic Trials Participants: Notable Schools by Alumni (I just count what school the wrestler finished at)
Penn State- 16
Iowa- 7
Nebraska- 7
Ohio State- 5
Cornell- 5
Missouri- 4
NC State- 4
Oklahoma State- 3
Michigan- 3
If you have any other inquiries/stuff you want to know about the 2024 Olympic Trials qualifiers, let me know and I'll see if I can find the answer!
Wrestlers who qualified (not necessarily wrestled) for 2016, 2020, and 2024 Olympic trials:
57kg- Joe Colon, Nahshon Garrett
65kg- James Green, Logan Stieber, Zain Retherford
74kg- Jordan Burroughs, Kyle Dake, Alex Dieringer
86kg- David Taylor, J'Den Cox
97kg- Kyle Snyder
125kg- Nick Gwiazdowski, Dom Bradley
High Schoolers to qualify for Olympic Trials
2016- Mark Hall
2020-
2024- Luke Lilledahl, Jax Forrest, Marcus Blaze, LaDarion Lockett (Paul Kenny also qualified, but is too young to compete)
2024 Olympic Trials Participants: Notable Schools by Alumni (I just count what school the wrestler finished at)
Penn State- 16
Iowa- 7
Nebraska- 7
Ohio State- 5
Cornell- 5
Missouri- 4
NC State- 4
Oklahoma State- 3
Michigan- 3
If you have any other inquiries/stuff you want to know about the 2024 Olympic Trials qualifiers, let me know and I'll see if I can find the answer!
What is the age limit to compete at US Olympic Trials for wrestling? Why do we have an age limit?
Yankeefan33
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You have to be 18 before December 31, 2024. Not sure if this is a UWW rule or a USA Wrestling rule. I know some sports' governing bodies have age limits to reduce abuse of children (figure skating just raised their age from 15 to 17 in the wake of the 2022 Russian skating scandal), but I'm not sure specifically what the rationale is for wrestling.
Man what a performance by Jax, jeez that kid is good and so fun to watch. Can’t wait for Trials to see the damage he does there, won’t be the last NCAA champ he beats this spring I’m betting. Shame Bassett didn’t get in with him. 57Kg is wide open, going to be a fun weight.
Great stuff Yankee. Thanks. “Back in the good old days” Jimmy Carr, David Carr’s uncle, wrestled in the ‘72 OLY at age 17 (DNP). Rules must have been different then. A year earlier he wrestled in the World championships at age 16 (placed 6th).
He also won the Midlands in HS, beating an NCAA champ in the bracket.
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Coach McCoy
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Thanks for bringing back a memory I had forgotten from back in my HS days bdhof!! I remember Jimmy and the buzz he brought.
Yeah, he was supposed to be the next Dan Gable, but never had the NCAA success (1 AA 5th for Kentucky coached by his brother). Another tid bit about Jimmy Carr from The National Wrestling HoF:
Jimmy came from family of 16 siblings. Of his eight brothers, all became wrestlers, with five of them becoming college All-Americans, led by Nate Carr, a Distinguished Member of the National Hall of Fame who was a three-time NCAA champion for Iowa State and an Olympic bronze medalist.
Coach McCoy
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Also remember now/but forgot, that he wrestled at UK for his brother. You Da Man!!
The other interesting result here for me was Christian Carroll. He came out of HS as a top pound-for-pound guy, but he couldn't establish himself as a 285 at only 5'10". He makes this first-time drop to 97kg after being our U20 125kg guy in '22 and '23, takes out well-established Jacob Warner in the semi's, and rolls through everyone else. He then proceeds to explain in the post-finals interview that he's done with HWT at all levels. He'll be a very interesting player for the future at 97kg internationally, but he's an interesting hat in the ring at 197 for college the next few years too if he can cut his super-stout 220lb frame down smartly.
Yankeefan33
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He had a miserable draw at 2023 U20 worlds, but I'm guessing going up against two giants there and losing by a combined 23-0 contributed to bringing him back down. There are so many giants at 125kg that you need to be Gable-level talented to make up for it.
Yeah, essentially "there are so many giants" is exactly the reason he gives. He says it's just so challenging to finish anything against guys with so much bigger frames than him. He also mentions his future aspirations to coach and the fact that there aren't good examples of HWTs coaching at the highest levels (assuming he means HWTs are specialists, and they aren't respected for technical all-weight coaching later).
I'm going to have to correct you, then tell you how I know what I'm about to write. Jimmy Carr was only 16 at the Olympics in 1972. He did not turn 17 until December 28th of 1972. How do I know that? I was born on the exact same day as him - 12/28/55.
As Paul Harvey used to say "....and now you know, the rest of the story"
UsedToBe103
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Hmmmm...
Wiki has his birthdate as 1/28/55 (making him 17 during OLY)
Olympedia has it as 1/28/55 (making him 17 during OLY)
National Wrestling HoF has it as 12/28/55 (making him 16 during OLY)
Several other websites list him as a 17 year old HS JR. when he competed. We've now opened up a huge controversy. I do believe that you were born on 12/28/55.
Here is my source - which is the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. I always believed that he was only 16 and was on the same birthday as me. Now, I'm not sure. But I'll still go with what I have believed to be the case for over 40 years. It's possible they have it wrong, but I always heard he was only 16. I also remember one of the commentators during the Olympics talking about him "spitting cotton" as he was trying to cut weight down to 114. He had nothing in the tank at the Olympics. Of course I followed him - we were in the same grade and I believed we were born on the same day. Bubble not quite burst yet...
But - when I read the tribute to him below, it talks about him being a 16 year old junior world champion in 1971. That would indicate the birth date was 1/28/1955.
But - it also says he passed away in 2013 at the age of 57 - which he would have been if his birth date was 12/28/55 and not 1/28/1955 (he would not have turned 58 until 12/28/55).
I know I can't trust my memory that much anymore, but I know for certain they kept talking about him being 16 at the Olympic games. The junior world competitions was not much of a thing back then - and for sure nothing I was paying attention to. Seems to be a bit of a mystery and I'm questioning what I thought was a rock solid long term memory. Gable wrestled in 1972 - right? Along with Sanders, Wells, the Peterson brothers, and 450lb Chris Taylor (who defeated Toledo's Greg Wojo***ski for the Olympic spot. There's a couple I can't remember, but I remember all the medal winners and the 2 that got attention for other reasons - age and weight (although Taylor did win a bronze)
December 28, 1955 - August 15, 2013
Jimmy Carr competed in the 1972 Olympics in freestyle wrestling as a 17-year-old high school junior, becoming the youngest ever American Olympic wrestler.
Carr was Junior World Champion who had actually placed sixth at the 1971 World Championships as a 16-year-old
He biggest title came in 1973 when he became the first high school wrestler to win the prestigious Midlands Tournament, defeating NCAA champion Mark Massery of Northwestern 11-7 and being named Outstanding Wrestler of the tournament.
Carr also earned a tie and a 5-3 win over 1972 Olympic gold medalist Roman Dmitriyev of Russia.
He wrestled at the University of Kentucky for his brother Fletcher Carr, earning All-America honors with a fifth-place finish in 1977, and also at the University of Alabama.
Carr accomplished all this despite almost losing his right leg to a staph infection when he was a child.
Jimmy came from family of 16 siblings. Of his eight brothers, all became wrestlers, with five of them becoming college All-Americans, led by Nate Carr, a Distinguished Member of the National Hall of Fame who was a three-time NCAA champion for Iowa State and an Olympic bronze medalist.
He passed away at 57 years old in 2013 from injuries suffered in an automobile accident.
But - when I read the tribute to him below, it talks about him being a 16 year old junior world champion in 1971. That would indicate the birth date was 1/28/1955.
But - it also says he passed away in 2013 at the age of 57 - which he would have been if his birth date was 12/28/55 and not 1/28/1955 (he would not have turned 58 until 12/28/55).
I know I can't trust my memory that much anymore, but I know for certain they kept talking about him being 16 at the Olympic games. The junior world competitions was not much of a thing back then - and for sure nothing I was paying attention to. Seems to be a bit of a mystery and I'm questioning what I thought was a rock solid long term memory. Gable wrestled in 1972 - right? Along with Sanders, Wells, the Peterson brothers, and 450lb Chris Taylor (who defeated Toledo's Greg Wojo***ski for the Olympic spot. There's a couple I can't remember, but I remember all the medal winners and the 2 that got attention for other reasons - age and weight (although Taylor did win a bronze)
Jimmy Carr
December 28, 1955 - August 15, 2013
Jimmy Carr competed in the 1972 Olympics in freestyle wrestling as a 17-year-old high school junior, becoming the youngest ever American Olympic wrestler.
Carr was Junior World Champion who had actually placed sixth at the 1971 World Championships as a 16-year-old
He biggest title came in 1973 when he became the first high school wrestler to win the prestigious Midlands Tournament, defeating NCAA champion Mark Massery of Northwestern 11-7 and being named Outstanding Wrestler of the tournament.
Carr also earned a tie and a 5-3 win over 1972 Olympic gold medalist Roman Dmitriyev of Russia.
He wrestled at the University of Kentucky for his brother Fletcher Carr, earning All-America honors with a fifth-place finish in 1977, and also at the University of Alabama.
Carr accomplished all this despite almost losing his right leg to a staph infection when he was a child.
Jimmy came from family of 16 siblings. Of his eight brothers, all became wrestlers, with five of them becoming college All-Americans, led by Nate Carr, a Distinguished Member of the National Hall of Fame who was a three-time NCAA champion for Iowa State and an Olympic bronze medalist.
He passed away at 57 years old in 2013 from injuries suffered in an automobile accident.
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Now I'm on a mission to get to the the truth. Found another article referenced below that talks about him making the Olympic team at 16. Don't think they would have picked the team prior to January 28, 1972. This came from a Cary Kolat website.
After finding the one above - I found the actual obituary for Jimmy Carr. Shows him as being born on January 28, 1955. Not a 1 month difference, but 11 months. I still trust my memory, but the commentators during the Olympics - and leading up to it - had it wrong - along with a number of others. Again, I have to assume they had the normal Olympic Trials in 1972 and he did not make the Olympic team off his junior world championship when he was 16.... I suppose I should look that up, but I'm conceding defeat off the obituary information.
Edit: Had to look it up. Olympic Team Trials for wrestling wasn't until the end of June 1972. Olympics in Munich started in late August and finished up in early September.
The G.O.A.T. of High School Wrestling10/14/20152 Comments First, I’m not a sports fan so I never knew all the terms that fans used when discussing sports. I consistently saw this term used when comparing LeBron to Jordan and finally I had to ask my wife (she is the sports fan) , “What the hell does G.O.A.T. stand for?” Now that I’m educated on the definition I can say this, “I’m not the G.O.A.T. of high school wrestling.” Nice to be in the discussion but I don’t view myself as that guy. Below is the guy that inspired me to climb the ranks early, plain and simple! Making the Olympic team at 16 is a feat that has not been duplicated nor has anyone actually come close to it since 1973. |
After finding the one above - I found the actual obituary for Jimmy Carr. Shows him as being born on January 28, 1955. Not a 1 month difference, but 11 months. I still trust my memory, but the commentators during the Olympics - and leading up to it - had it wrong - along with a number of others. Again, I have to assume they had the normal Olympic Trials in 1972 and he did not make the Olympic team off his junior world championship when he was 16.... I suppose I should look that up, but I'm conceding defeat off the obituary information.
James Carr Obituary (2013) - Erie, PA - Erie Times-News
View James Emmett Carr Sr.'s obituary, send flowers and sign the guestbook.
www.legacy.com
Edit: Had to look it up. Olympic Team Trials for wrestling wasn't until the end of June 1972. Olympics in Munich started in late August and finished up in early September.
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OCEagle, regardless of the issue at hand, thanks for the posts. I think the '72 Olympics was the first time I even had an interest in wrestling. My recall aligns with yours, and I had not thought about that '72 team (except for Gable) for a long time. Nice to recall some of wrestling's greatest.
goldentornado
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Now I'm on a mission to get to the the truth. Found another article referenced below that talks about him making the Olympic team at 16. Don't think they would have picked the team prior to January 28, 1972. This came from a Cary Kolat website.
The G.O.A.T. of High School Wrestling
10/14/2015
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First, I’m not a sports fan so I never knew all the terms that fans used when discussing sports. I consistently saw this term used when comparing LeBron to Jordan and finally I had to ask my wife (she is the sports fan) , “What the hell does G.O.A.T. stand for?”
Now that I’m educated on the definition I can say this, “I’m not the G.O.A.T. of high school wrestling.” Nice to be in the discussion but I don’t view myself as that guy.
Below is the guy that inspired me to climb the ranks early, plain and simple! Making the Olympic team at 16 is a feat that has not been duplicated nor has anyone actually come close to it since 1973.
After finding the one above - I found the actual obituary for Jimmy Carr. Shows him as being born on January 28, 1955. Not a 1 month difference, but 11 months. I still trust my memory, but the commentators during the Olympics - and leading up to it - had it wrong - along with a number of others. Again, I have to assume they had the normal Olympic Trials in 1972 and he did not make the Olympic team off his junior world championship when he was 16.... I suppose I should look that up, but I'm conceding defeat off the obituary information.
James Carr Obituary (2013) - Erie, PA - Erie Times-News
View James Emmett Carr Sr.'s obituary, send flowers and sign the guestbook.www.legacy.com
Edit: Had to look it up. Olympic Team Trials for wrestling wasn't until the end of June 1972. Olympics in Munich started in late August and finished up in early September.
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