Benedictine is the biggest abuser of this. Saw 126, 144, 175 all use this multiple times. As soon as they come out of the injury time, they’re recharged and usually go on to score.When did kids calling for their own injury time become legal? I have never once seen a kid default out when they called their own and it always appears to be when they just need to catch their breath. It has really degraded the integrity of the sport.
It's always the same kids who do it every time they gas out to avoid being scored on.Benedictine is the biggest abuser of this. Saw 126, 144, 175 all use this multiple times. As soon as they come out of the injury time, they’re recharged and usually go on to score.
Been out of officiating for four years, but if a wrestler stopped action because he said he was hurt there's no stalling involved. Either he assumes the proper position within a couple of seconds or it's injury time. IF there was stoppage for a potentially dangerous call, I might be a little more lenient (4-5 seconds) LOL!!.It should be a stall call.
Oh I know there isn’t a stalling involved, but a stall call should be called. He’s avoiding action so he can catch a breather, meanwhile the other wrestlers has his toe on the line ready to go.Been out of officiating for four years, but if a wrestler stopped action because he said he was hurt there's no stalling involved. Either he assumes the proper position within a couple of seconds or it's injury time. IF there was stoppage for a potentially dangerous call, I might be a little more lenient (4-5 seconds) LOL!!.
Yes, but injury time "usually" has more consequences than a stalling call (usually).Oh I know there isn’t a stalling involved, but a stall call should be called. He’s avoiding action so he can catch a breather, meanwhile the other wrestlers has his toe on the line ready to go.
Agree with this. Change the high school injury time rule to be the same as college.Rule needs changed to same as college…other guys choice!
Would not following colleges' lead and give opponent choice eliminate most of the whirlybird lung time outs?While we would be adding more to the ref's plate, rule additions could deter coaches from coaching during this time or from kids getting a shot of water. I don't like the idea of making rules that punish scholastic athletes who are actually injured. They are not adults that we should expect to "push through it" to avoid a stall call. However, I think you can address how the abuse of injury time happens: Coaches getting additional time to address the match or kids getting a shot of water.
1. Coaches are allowed to only address the injury that ails the athlete; failure to do so, such as providing additional coaching, will result in the coach being dismissed to the corner. If the coaching continues from the corner, during the injury time, the coach will be dismissed for the remainder of the match from the corner. The emphasis should be on addressing the ailment of the wrestler and making sure they are safe. The opponent's coaches will not be held to the same standard during the aforementioned injury time.
Ex: Athlete calls time complaining of a shoulder injury with no apparent injury. The coach comes over with the trainer to ask how it got hurt, when did it happen, etc. The moment he/she begins talking about situations in the match he/she will be sent to the chair as a warning. Additional coaching will result in him/her relocating for the duration of the match to the stands or X feet from the matside.
2. If a coach or non-match member (non-coach or athlete) provides a form of hydration then the wrestler will give up a stalling penalty/loss of position/unsportsmanlike conduct etc.; the wrestler who did not use the injury time will be able to access hydration if they wish. Very few times does an injury require water. Short of having a busted lip, and needing to rinse it, why do you need water during a match?
Ex: Kid is in a flurry and they go OOB. Wrestler 1 is slow to get up and asks for injury time. W1 is assessed by coaches/trainers in line with Rule 1. The coach provides the athlete a shot of water and the ref provides a warning. If they accept the drink then the warning becomes stalling/unsportsmanlike. W2 is allowed to get a shot of water with no penalty at this time as they were ready to wrestle and did not ask for time.
IMO- A wrestler who calls for injury time due to being "tired" should be treated like a concussion. If they cannot catch their breath during the match the trainer should advise the ref to stop the match as we all take courses that comply with Lindsey's Law and want to reduce the possibility of SCA.
Instituting penalties for calling your own injury time to get a shot of water/not addressing a wrestler's injury could help reduce the abuse of this ability.
Just my two cents. I'm always down to hear differing opinions.
Coach Welch
IMO- Holding HS kids to the same standard as college kids is not the answer. We can expect a collegiate athlete to tough it out when they hyper-extend their elbow so they don't need to face the consequences of giving up their position. I'd say kids who are college-bound are also not using up their injury time because of a gas tank; if so, then the recruiter should take a second look. High school kids should be allowed to deal with their immediate injury without fear of repercussion, the first time, in a match... because they're still kids. People on this website forget that sometimes.Would not following colleges' lead and give opponent choice eliminate most of the whirlybird lung time outs?
I think you missed my point respectfully. Not asking kids to tough out an injury, just saying that if there was an implication on the match score, they might think twice about taking a injury TO to catch there breath and get a drink.IMO- Holding HS kids to the same standard as college kids is not the answer. We can expect a collegiate athlete to tough it out when they hyper-extend their elbow so they don't need to face the consequences of giving up their position. I'd say kids who are college-bound are also not using up their injury time because of a gas tank; if so, then the recruiter should take a second look. High school kids should be allowed to deal with their immediate injury without fear of repercussion, the first time, in a match... because they're still kids. People on this website forget that sometimes.
Again, what is the big issue with taking an injury TO? IMO- Slowing the match down to get a breather and getting a water break. You can address those specific issues with rules that don't punish kids who are truly injured.
They barely teach a reading curriculum anymore at these public school districts.I remember always reading shirts that said, “there are no time-outs in wrestling”
The referee did not "decide" the match was over, the Rule Book says it is over with a third injury time out.I have seen where one wrestler was given an injury time out twice in a match and when he stated he needed another, the referee decided the wrestler was too injured to continue and declared the other wrestler the winner. Can that be done within today's rules? I really dislike lung injury time outs where the only thing hurt is the out shape wrestler's feelings.
Thank you.The referee did not "decide" the match was over, the Rule Book says it is over with a third injury time out.
This has been the case for at least 20 years and probably more.
The second one is choiceThe only change to the rule I'd make is 1st one free like it is and second one is choice AND a stall call.