New York AG files lawsuit against Trump and his children for fraud

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Auditor's (Tax Values) are almost never actual FMV. Auditor's merely do drive by appraisals if that. In Ohio any property owner can testify to the FMV of their own property before the Board of Revisions if they are disputing tax values or in Court of law as to the value of their own property. The more probative FMV usually comes from formal comprehensive appraisals or a recent arm's length sale. I can go to a bank and request an equity loan on my house with my own opinion of FMV. The bank has to do their own due diligence. It is their responsibility to assess the value of the property in "the bank's own opinion", through their own appraisal or otherwise and then grant or deny the loan based on what they believe is the FMV and their belief of the ability of the person or entity requesting the loan to pay it back. There is not fraud at all in this. I've read the AG's complaint and it is a joke. This lawsuit is completely frivolous but likely won't be dismissed outright like it should be because I am sure it was filed and assigned to some activist Dem Judge in New York.

I am done arguing with imbeciles on the debate forum, at least for a few days. :rolleyes:
Awesome. Talk with you after Trump loses the suit.
 

Letitia James vs. the Trump Family​

New York’s AG found her defendants first, then looked for evidence to charge them with something.​

WSJ
By The Editorial Board
Sept. 22, 2022 6:43 pm ET

Common wisdom says that on a good day state attorneys general do 70% politics and 30% law. That’s on a good day. On Wednesday New York Attorney General Letitia James lived up to that reputation by filing a civil lawsuit against Donald Trump. The suit alleges that the former President and three of his children inflated the asset values and net worth of their properties to get better terms from banks on loans and better deals from insurers.

Ms. James ran for office promising to indict Mr. Trump, which is the opposite of the way justice should be done. You’re supposed to find a crime and then identify the perpetrator. Ms. James declared Mr. Trump could “be indicted for criminal offenses” and has hunted ever since for a crime to charge him with.

Her civil lawsuit requires a mere preponderance of evidence standard to prove guilt, not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. She has referred the case to the Internal Revenue Service and federal prosecutors in Manhattan, though the Manhattan district attorney didn’t file charges after examining the same issues.
This isn’t to dismiss the financial fraud charges. The lawsuit says Mr. Trump used “objectively false numbers to calculate property values,” including counting his Trump Tower apartment at 30,000 sq. ft. when it was 10,996 sq. ft. so that it could be improperly valued at $327 million. His golf course in Scotland was valued at $327 million on the calculation that 2,500 homes could be developed (worth $267 million) when he had zoning approval for only 1,500 homes and apartments.
“All told, Mr. Trump, the Trump Organization, and the other Defendants, as part of a repeated pattern and common scheme, derived more than 200 false and misleading valuations of assets,” the lawsuit says.
No one who has ever listened to Mr. Trump will be surprised if he hyped the value of his holdings in dealing with bankers. But then no one in New York finance would ever trust only what Mr. Trump claims before signing a document or lending him money.

As far as we’ve seen, the lenders don’t seem to consider themselves victims. They made money on the loans, which didn’t default. The transactions were presumably scoured by auditors and bank due-diligence officers. There is enormous variability in real-estate valuations. The question Ms. James will have to prove is whether Mr. Trump’s claims amounted to intentional fraud.

The scent of politics can be detected in the sanctions Ms. James is seeking. She wrapped the three adult Trump children into the suit and is seeking to bar them for life from being officers of any business in New York. Mr. Trump would be barred from entering into any commercial real-estate acquisitions in New York state for five years and also barred from applying for loans from “any financial institution chartered by or registered with the New York Department of Financial Services” for five years.

She is also seeking $250 million in restitution, which probably exceeds the interest earned on the difference in interest rates that banks might have charged Mr. Trump if his assets were worth less than advertised.
Ms. James’s decision to drop this lawsuit only a few weeks before the midterm election also smacks of political motivation. Mr. Trump isn’t on any ballot. But she knows Mr. Trump drives Democrats to vote, and keeping him at the center of the news is a Democratic priority.

Mr. Trump has made a business and political career of getting away with whatever he can, and it’s easy to imagine he crossed a line. But the Democrats pursuing him have become Captain Ahabs bent on taking him down by any means necessary. Ms. James is a partisan prosecutor, and her charges and evidence need to be examined in that context.
 
So the federal investigations into your King are just for fun? You actually believe that he is 100% innocent and the "liberal left" is just going after him because they don't like him? What is your job BTW?
That's exactly what is happening.

The AG publicly stated she was out to get Trump 🤷‍♂️

He's done business in NY for decades and now there is a problem? Just coincidence I'm sure.
 
So the federal investigations into your King are just for fun? You actually believe that he is 100% innocent and the "liberal left" is just going after him because they don't like him? What is your job BTW?



They are going after him because he is a major threat to the swamp establishment and the political cronyism that vastly enriches life-time politicians at the expense of The People.

Stunning that you and others are so mentally deficient you can't see it, though it is staring you in the face. Or, you're just an enemy of the U.S.
 
That's exactly what is happening.

The AG publicly stated she was out to get Trump 🤷‍♂️

He's done business in NY for decades and now there is a problem? Just coincidence I'm sure.
Did he break the law or not? Doesn’t matter if she hated his guts. He committed fraud and tax evasion.
 
She is suing him on the behalf of New York for depriving the state and city of revenue.
She's suing because she's a political hack with a personal vendetta.

How exactly was the state/city defrauded? They have their own auditors that determine property value. In fact the issue in question is that the property values were inflated....the state/city owes him a refund.
 
She's suing because she's a political hack with a personal vendetta.

How exactly was the state/city defrauded? They have their own auditors that determine property value. In fact the issue in question is that the property values were inflated....the state/city owes him a refund.
That’s what I don’t get. If the property was overvalued didn’t that cost Trump more in property taxes ..etc.?
 
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He did. She chose this route because Trump‘s punishment will be greater. Oh, you’re right. Fraud and tax evasion aren’t crimes.
The amount of government waste and fraud are crimes, why aren't those who defraud taxpayers out of trillions of dollars under investigation?
 
He did. She chose this route because Trump‘s punishment will be greater. Oh, you’re right. Fraud and tax evasion aren’t crimes.

She chose this route because there's zero evidence a crime has been committed.

You do understand President Trump and the Trump organization are audited by the IRS pretty much annually? Since they haven't found a single incident of fraud or evasion, what makes you nuts suddenly believe you have? Inflated assets???

We all laugh hardily at your impotence.
 
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