St. X basketball 2012-2013

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How is St.X looking this year? I know they struggled last year and lost some key seniors in a strong GCL South. Who will be their shut down defender to defend players like Benzinger or Muchmore from Moeller or Larkin from Lasalle? Is there a possible coaching change on the way?
 
 
No chance Martin gets fired but they won't be very good this year and should be handled pretty easily by both moeller and lasalle.
 
The Coach Martin rumors have been going on for several years and yet nothing ever happens. I don't see any changes at the top even if St. X has another bad year in basketball. For goodness sakes he has gotten X their only State Basketball championship, been to the Final Four multiple times, and has numerous district championships. However, even with that said, anything, but a Top 10 finish in the city and at least a 2nd place finish in the GCL South will be a major dissapointment for this year's team. This year's team definitely has the talent. In the starting lineup X will have two D1 scholarship players in Hadden and Mills, their leading scorer back in Blink, and plenty of seniors and juniors to pick from to round out the starting 5. Coach Martin heavily relies on his seniors to produce and last year's group of seniors (which was only 3) gave him little to nothing. This year's squad should be comprised of 8 or 9 seniors. The other issue with last year's team is they had nothing coming off of the bench. This year's X team will have plenty of shooters and height coming in as role players with the capabilities of carrying a team if they get hot. Last year's JV team won the GCL South and there is plenty of talent for Coach Martin to pick from. I expect 1 or 2 of the juniors from this group (besides Mills) to start making a name for themselves. They have the talent.

In regards to Benzinger and Muchmore, St. X will have a lot of other people to worry about at Moeller than these two. Specifically Davenport, Watkins, Wrencher, and Fowler.

I believe Lasalle will have a down year. They just don't have as much talent as they have had in the past and the lack of height is finally going to catch up to them. Yes I know they now have Simpson, but he is just not that good no matter what some rankings say about him. Moeller figured him out which is why he left. Simpson was not in Moeller's plans.

The Top 3 teams in the city this year for D1 (in no particular order) will be Moeller, Winton Woods, and Walnut Hills. St. X should easily be able to be in the next best group of 4 to 5 teams. This should be the year that St. X basketball is revelent again and the rumors about Coach Martin stop. I hope that is the case, because if Martin can't at least get back to winning ways with this group then I'm not sure how he will ever be able to get back to winning ways.
 
sty84 said:
Yes I know they now have Simpson, but he is just not that good no matter what some rankings say about him. Moeller figured him out which is why he left. Simpson was not in Moeller's plans.
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I've been saying that the whole time. If the kid was any good, Moeller wouldn't have let him go and he would have showed his potential up to this point. A stud leaving under King Karl's watch at Moe just doesn't happen.

Now LS losing a stud to Moe is another story....losing Tony Harris killed them for 3 years in two sports. :Ohno:
 
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Rumor has it Watkins may not play basketball with Football commitment however for Moeller, this moves Muchmore to PG, any thought?
 
Muchmore PG? He is a big guy, and dont see him being a starter. Trey Hawkins I think it is, wil prob be PG. he had a lot of mins last yr there, when Ben was out of game.
 
La Cook

St X basketball could be much better. Tell me why is show much hype given to this Mills kid. I've been coaching kids in this age group for years. He could be much better but he's in the wrong type of system. Coaching change long overdue.
 
sean cook said:
St X basketball could be much better. Tell me why is show much hype given to this Mills kid. I've been coaching kids in this age group for years. He could be much better but he's in the wrong type of system. Coaching change long overdue.
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I will have to agree, with the amount of talent St X has flowing through their school and the success of other programs (i.e. Football, Baseball, Swimming, other sports) their basketball program is pretty sad, however they do play in the strongest league in Ohio day in and day out
 
Sad?
In the past 8 years, x has finished anywhere from 1st to 4th in the gcl. Most often they have been 3rd behin moe and lasalle which is not embarrassing.
With the way moe recruits their hoopsters and run their program, and the dominance lasalle has shown over th years, x has always been competitive. Someone said the "system" is wrong. I don't see moeller or lasalle changing their system for new personnel.
 
Lt Dan said:
Sad?
In the past 8 years, x has finished anywhere from 1st to 4th in the gcl. Most often they have been 3rd behin moe and lasalle which is not embarrassing.
With the way moe recruits their hoopsters and run their program, and the dominance lasalle has shown over th years, x has always been competitive. Someone said the "system" is wrong. I don't see moeller or lasalle changing their system for new personnel.
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I would love to hear you explain how Moeller "Recruits their hoopsters" I think kids just want to play for a team that wins consistently and has a storied athletic background, if kids come to your school to become Elite in their sport how is that recruiting?
 
Peterson said:
Huh?? I didn't know they could come in 5th?? :hello:
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Valid point here. I believe fourth place could also be referred to as last in this instance. They are not as good as moeller, lasalle, bacon, and maybe alter and cj anyway.
 
xubk said:
Valid point here. I believe fourth place could also be referred to as last in this instance. They are not as good as moeller, lasalle, bacon, and maybe alter and cj anyway.
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St. X is much better than CJ this year, and probably better than Alter as well.
 
younmoegrad said:
Pot calls the kettle black...Leader Scholars
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Not exactly. When have you ever heard Peterson deny recruiting doesn't go on at La Salle or any other GCL School? Pot didn't call the kettle black at all. Get players or get beat. It's that simple. :party:
 
Peterson said:
Not exactly. When have you ever heard Peterson deny recruiting doesn't go on at La Salle or any other GCL School? Pot didn't call the kettle black at all. Get players or get beat. It's that simple. :party:
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This is exactly the reason while there will be a vote on separating public/private tournaments... because SOME schools have that attitude and openly recruit.
 
Peterson said:
OK. And I have a cure for cancer too. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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You think McNick is recruiting athletically? Bottom line a few schools (Moeller, LaSalle, Bacon) are blatant about it and go above and beyond. And if a few schools didn't take it to another level then some of the other schools wouldn't have to attempt to recruit as well.
 
cincyhoops said:
You think McNick is recruiting athletically? Bottom line a few schools (Moeller, LaSalle, Bacon) are blatant about it and go above and beyond. And if a few schools didn't take it to another level then some of the other schools wouldn't have to attempt to recruit as well.
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So when Klonne or Rodenberg were at McKnick they didn't recruit?? Puhlease.....:laugh:
I guess they only recruit(ed) while at Moeller, huh? You are saying that they towed the line during their stints at MckNick??
 
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Peterson said:
So when Klonne or Rodenberg were at McKnick they didn't recruit?? Puhlease.....:laugh:
I guess they only recruit(ed) while at Moeller, huh? You are saying that they towed the line during their stints at MckNick??
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This is a basketball forum... the thread is about St. X basketball... why would we be talking about football?
 
cincyhoops said:
This is a basketball forum... the thread is about St. X basketball... why would we be talking about football?
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Because Captain obvious; you continue to put your head in the sand and ask stupid questions like "You think Mcknick is recruiting athletically?"

No where in that question did you just say for basketball only. I gave you two examples of coaches w/ "history" on their side for recruiting who were at MckNick and now you only want to talk hoops. Come to the table w/ something to talk about or step away please. It goes on at ALL GCL Schools. Not just the GCL South.
 
;) :D :wallbang: DO THEY STILL RECRUIT AT LASALLE OR ARE THEY JUST PETTIN THE POOCH ????:banana: :clap: BRING BACK MR ACE ;;AND SAVE THE LANCERS ???;)
 
Peterson said:
Because Captain obvious; you continue to put your head in the sand and ask stupid questions like "You think Mcknick is recruiting athletically?"

No where in that question did you just say for basketball only. I gave you two examples of coaches w/ "history" on their side for recruiting who were at MckNick and now you only want to talk hoops. Come to the table w/ something to talk about or step away please. It goes on at ALL GCL Schools. Not just the GCL South.
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Give me one example of McNick or Badin recruiting?
 
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