Who was the other Hubbard guy, Bruce Phibbs?
Yes. He went a "few" years after Poole, I don't recall if they were on the SIU team at the same time.
Who was the other Hubbard guy, Bruce Phibbs?
Mike Hears passed away very young, maybe in the mid 1990sI think both Mike Herns and Tom Olsavsky transferred from Ursuline.
Yes, Mike Herns started off @ Ursuline prior to transferring to East. Mid 90s sounds about right for his passing. His son Mike Herns Jr also played for EastMike Hears passed away very young, maybe in the mid 1990s
Yes. He went a "few" years after Poole, I don't recall if they were on the SIU team at the same time.
Yes, Mike Herns started off @ Ursuline prior to transferring to East. Mid 90s sounds about right for his passing. His son Mike Herns Jr also played for East
Ytown, I'm sorry I cant help you on Zupko & his college career. Too bad this thread wasn't around a few years ago sine both of my sons went to the Ironman Warehouse at both locations. They saw more of Dunner than Zupko.
And piggybacking on the Southern Illinois topic I found an old article about the 83 Salukis National Championship. Prominently featuring Terry Taylor & Sterling Haywood
1983 SOUTH | ||
NEW CASTLE, PA. W 6-2 | ||
ERIE TECH, PA. L 14-16 | ||
FITCH L 8-21 | ||
EAST W 12-7 | ||
CLEVELAND E. TECH. W 35-12 | ||
CHANEY W 7-3 | ||
WILSON W 36-0 | ||
CANTON McKINLEY L 0-6 | ||
Massillon L 0-38 | ||
RAYEN W 7-0 | ||
6-4 | 4-0 City |
Just to add on, 1981 East Ray Bracy didn't make All City ( Maybe he was honorable mention) went to Edinboro)
Tony Copeland All city 82 was in Dallas Cowboy training camp...as a punter
Yes, John Greene was Captain at Penn State
And JC Penny was the one I mentioned earlier about channel 21, 27 & 33 listing his signing as West Virginia, YSU, and the Hurricanes.
I think Wendell Hayes was another Ursuline transfer
Yes, he was definitely an Ursuline transfer. Was looking up on our ol' archives. Led the SVC in scoring, but as Ytown & others can attest, it wasn't total points, but average per game for SVC stats. I was a little surprised to read Saadey from Mooney led the SVC in passing.I think Wendell Hayes was another Ursuline transfer
1984 SOUTH | ||
NEW CASTLE, PA. T 14-14 | ||
ERIE, PA. TECH W 20-14 | ||
WEIRTON, W. VA., WEIR L 0-7 | ||
WILSON W 32-8 | ||
CHANEY W 6-0 | ||
ERIE, PA. McDOWELL L 6-19 | ||
RAYEN W 35-13 | ||
CANTON McKINLEY L 0-27 | ||
BARBERTON L 6-7 | ||
EAST W 12-7 | ||
5-4-1 | 4-0 City |
1985 RAYEN | ||
STEUBENVILLE W 14-7 | ||
ERIE, PA. ACADEMY W 32-6 | ||
OPEN | ||
CHANEY W 27-8 | ||
PAINESVILLE HARVEY W 46-0 | ||
WILSON W 46-6 | ||
SOUTH W 14-6 | ||
EAST W 20-12 (OT) | ||
BOARDMAN L 0-30 | ||
LIBERTY W 33-0 | ||
STRUTHERS W 24-6* | ||
WARREN JFK W 12-6* | ||
ORRVILLE L 13-23* | ||
*PLAYOFFS | ||
10-2 | 4-0 City |
1986 EAST | ||
STEUBENVILLE C. C. W 22-0 | ||
CANTON TIMKEN W 15-0 | ||
URSULINE W 13-6 | ||
WILSON W 24-0 | ||
BOARDMAN W 6-0 | ||
MOONEY L 0-28 | ||
RAYEN W 20-0 | ||
CHANEY W 13-7 | ||
WARREN HARDING W 30-18 | ||
SOUTH W 22-15 (OT) | ||
SOUTH L 15-22* | ||
*PLAYOFFS | ||
9-2 | 4-0 City |
Played with Kenny Poindexter in college. Great guy, taken from us far to soon.I was working in N. Canton at the time so in week 8 of the 1986 season I stayed there after work and went to see South play McKinley at Fawcett. McK was undefeated and ranked #1 in the state. The Pups received the opening KO and drove straight down the field to take a 7-0 lead. I remember thinking that was too easy. However, the Warriors D tightened up and Tony Tellington ran for two TDs to give South a 12-10 lead at halftime. South emulated the Pups by taking the 2nd half KO and driving for a TD when Tamron Smith ran about 40 yards for the score. They added the PAT and the Warriors led 19-10.
At this point I have to mention that South's HC was a Wilson grad so right there you know he's half crazy. I grew up with a lot of Wilson guys, they're all freaking nuts! Anyway coach may well be half crazy but he isn't totally insane so I figured he could not have called what happened in the 4th quarter. South has the undefeated #1 ranked team in the state down 9, on their home field, in the 4th quarter. I'm thinking just don't do anything crazy and win this game. With the score still 19-10 South, the Warriors had the ball 4th and 15 at their own 12-yard line. They faked a punt, threw a pass which was incomplete giving the Pups the ball on the South 12-yard line. I can't believe what I just saw! There were a lot of McK fans on the visitor's side and all of them are saying how this just didn't make any sense. Fortunately South's D stuffs McK and the Pups miss a FG. After an exchange of punts Tony Tellington breaks about a 75-yard TD run for the Warriors and South wins the game 27-10. It had to be one of the biggest upsets of the year if not THE biggest upset of the year in Ohio. Statistically though South put up over 400 yards of offense against McK and won going away. That was McK's only loss in the regular season.
In week 10 of the 1986 season East and South met for the CS championship witnessed by about 7,500-8,000 fans at Stambaugh. Both teams came in with 8-1 records. In a great back and forth game East won 22-15 in OT to win the championship, their first outright title since 1958. Both teams qualified for the playoffs for the first time, in D2 R5, and met again in week 11. This time Tony Tellington returned the opening KO for about an 85-yard TD and South jumped out to a 14-0 lead, only to see East come back to lead 15-14 in the 3rd quarter. South immediately answered that score and held on to win by the same score as the week 10 game, 22-15. Another really good game.
1986 EAST STEUBENVILLE C. C. W 22-0 CANTON TIMKEN W 15-0 URSULINE W 13-6 WILSON W 24-0 BOARDMAN W 6-0 MOONEY L 0-28 RAYEN W 20-0 CHANEY W 13-7 WARREN HARDING W 30-18 SOUTH W 22-15 (OT) SOUTH L 15-22* *PLAYOFFS 9-2 4-0 City
College players I know of on the All-City team:
Offense:
End - John McWilson - South - jr. - Ohio Northern
C - Sylvester Stanley - East - soph - Michigan - Patriots in the NFL
QB - James Stanford - East - YSU
QB - Jim Vivo - Chaney - Ohio U.
RB - Tony Tellington - South - YSU - Drafted by the Dolphins
Defense:
DL - Miles Davidson - South - Ohio U.
LB - Travis Jones - Rayen - Cincinnati
DB - Tim Rutledge - East - OSU
DB - George Phillips - Chaney - Ohio U.
DB - Kenny Poindexter - East - Oberlin
DB - Darren Penson - East - Kent St.
DB - Andre Ballinger - South - YSU
A little FYI. South defeated East 12-7 in 83 and 84 to prevent East from winning or sharing the CS ' ship. Both times South came from behind by the defense scoring off East fumbles. I believe bothnin the 4th quarter.Mr. Hayes was a 2nd team All-SVC RB for the Irish as a junior before transferring to Rayen. Mr. Saadey did lead the league in passing and his top receiver, Rick Shepas, led the league in reception yardage. The Cards won the D2 state championship that year.
In 1984 South repeated as CS champions with a 4-0 league record but East had the best overall record in the league at 7-3. The Warriors beat the Golden Bears, 12-7, in week 10 to win the title.
1984 SOUTH NEW CASTLE, PA. T 14-14 ERIE, PA. TECH W 20-14 WEIRTON, W. VA., WEIR L 0-7 WILSON W 32-8 CHANEY W 6-0 ERIE, PA. McDOWELL L 6-19 RAYEN W 35-13 CANTON McKINLEY L 0-27 BARBERTON L 6-7 EAST W 12-7 5-4-1 4-0 City
I remember East going full go at halftime that game. Very flat after that big Ursuline victory & assumed they would roll Wilson. There was more cracking of the pads at halftime than the whole 1st half.Played with Kenny Poindexter in college. Great guy, taken from us far to soon.
My 2 favorite memories from the 86 season, hard to have any when you go 0-10:
Coach Jackson going full scrimmage at halftime of the Wilson game, it was tied 0-0 at half.
Balllinger running down Harold Robinson inside the South 10 or Wilson upsets South.
I remember East going full go at halftime that game. Very flat after that big Ursuline victory & assumed they would roll Wilson. There was more cracking of the pads at halftime than the whole 1st half.
I played w/ Poindexter. Had no idea he was no longer with us. Unfortunately thete are a few more on that All City 86 that are gone.
Rodney Smith also played for YSU.
Also, I mentioned previous the Southern Illinios/ Coach Dempsey Mahoning Valley effect on their 'ship in 83. Well, enter Coach Tressell and the ' State of Youngstown ' Many players in these last 2 years, and coming up this next several years were instrumental not only bringing home 4 rings for the Guins, but resurrecting the excitement and attendance at Stambaugh. If you guys recall, after the new stadium feel wore off after 82, attendance and victories fell.
Obviously I have no proof, but I truly feel if Tressell did "pretty good" at YSU, he doesnt sniff TOSU. Lets say :'only' 1 championship and a handful of playoff appearances amd TOSU hires the Minnesota coach.
You went 0-10 in HS and still picked OBERLIN to play college ball? ;-)Played with Kenny Poindexter in college. Great guy, taken from us far to soon.
My 2 favorite memories from the 86 season, hard to have any when you go 0-10:
Coach Jackson going full scrimmage at halftime of the Wilson game, it was tied 0-0 at half..
1987 SOUTH | ||
ST. CLAIRSVILLE L 16-18 | ||
WINTERSVILLE W 14-6 | ||
RAYEN (TEACHER'S STRIKE) | ||
CHANEY " " | ||
RAYEN W 28-27 (2OT) | ||
TOLEDO BOWSHER W 20-14 | ||
CANTON McKINLEY L 12-13 | ||
WILSON W 26-7 | ||
EAST W 7-0 | ||
BOARDMAN L 0-10 | ||
CHANEY W 12-6 | ||
6-3 | 4-0 City |
Played with Kenny Poindexter in college. Great guy, taken from us far to soon.
My 2 favorite memories from the 86 season, hard to have any when you go 0-10:
Coach Jackson going full scrimmage at halftime of the Wilson game, it was tied 0-0 at half.
Balllinger running down Harold Robinson inside the South 10 or Wilson upsets South.
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1987 was the last year the Vindicator published pictures like the one above. Starting in 88 they went to head shots inside small squares for the players.
South won the CS title, their last before the school closed, with a 4-0 CS record.
1987 SOUTH ST. CLAIRSVILLE L 16-18 WINTERSVILLE W 14-6 RAYEN (TEACHER'S STRIKE) CHANEY " " RAYEN W 28-27 (2OT) TOLEDO BOWSHER W 20-14 CANTON McKINLEY L 12-13 WILSON W 26-7 EAST W 7-0 BOARDMAN L 0-10 CHANEY W 12-6 6-3 4-0 City
College players I know of:
Offense:
End - Kevin Brown - East - YSU
End - Andre Mason - South - jr. - YSU
End - Harold Robinson - Wilson - Akron
OL - Sylvester Stanley - East - jr. - Michigan - NE Patriots
QB - John McWilson - South - Ohio Northern
QB - Ray Isaac - Rayen - YSU (QB on 1st YSU National Championship team)
QB - Kevin Harris - WIlson - jr. - Kent St.
RB - Derrick Lewis - Rayen - Pitt (Led the CS in rushing with 1035 yards and a 9.9 YPC average)
RB - Tyrone Reynolds - Chaney - Oberlin
Defense:
DL - Joe Borak - Chaney - Mt. Union & Hiram
LB - Dave DelBoccio - Chaney - jr. YSU
LB - Tamron Smith - South - jr. - YSU (more in 88)
DB - Derek Pixley - East - YSU
Would your initials happen to be TM?
Surprised, Dan Ash from East was not All City in 87.