Only A Small Number

pcbuck

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Minerva got off the list by winning Girls Cross Country this fall.
Waynesville HS in Warren County won their first title in Girls Soccer this fall.
Grandview Heights HS in Franklin County won their first OHSAA state championship in Boys Soccer last month.
 

dhsdog06

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I would have guessed Ottoville having a state championship in boys or girls basketball by now? I know they had some great teams over the years.

This brings up an interesting question.

Would you rather be an Ottoville or Continental, sending teams to state or at least deep in the tournament every decade or so with a few sustained runs in a sport, but never winning it.

Or Paulding, terrible at pretty much everything, but has a single, random track championship from 1960 to their name?
 

Bull GreenDog

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This brings up an interesting question.

Would you rather be an Ottoville or Continental, sending teams to state or at least deep in the tournament every decade or so with a few sustained runs in a sport, but never winning it.

Or Paulding, terrible at pretty much everything, but has a single, random track championship from 1960 to their name?
I'd rather be a consistent winner over time and lose deep in the tournament. I don't know anything about Paulding, but I'm sure that track championship from sixty years ago doesn't make them feel any better when they lose.
 

EagleFan

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Does anyone have any disputes with the information provided by EagleFan? Please speak up if so.
I have no disputes, but as someone up-thread said, merges and splits complicate the history a little bit.

Another example is Lorain. The original Lorain Steelmen won a title, but the Lorain Titans have not. Certainly an argument that maybe the Titans should not be on the list because of that. (Lorain High School did not exist rom 1995 - 2010).

Same discussion happens when talking about # of team titles won. A school like Canton McKinley, for instance, is credited with 27 OHSAA titles, tied for 15th most. However, 16 of those were pre-1976. The original McKinley closed in 1976, and a new high school by the HOF was opened. They chose McKinley as the name, but what if they went with Canton Fawcett HS or some other name? Is the only reason we combine the history that they chose the same name?
 

ex_dc_atc

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My list of schools with no team OHSAA tournament titles. I tried to purge the closed, club, and non-OHSAA schools.

Cincinnati Aiken
Willoughby Andrews Osborne Academy
Ansonia
Arcadia
The Plains Athens
Avon
Beallsville
East Liverpool Beaver Local
Columbus Beechcroft
Bellaire
Bellbrook
Bellefontaine
Bellefontaine Benjamin Logan
Berkshire
Bethel-Tate
Sullivan Black River
Blanchester
Bloomfield
Toledo Bowsher
Columbus Briggs
Bristolville Bristol
Brooklyn
Sheffield Brookside
Lyndhurst Brush
Medina Buckeye
Rayland Buckeye Local
Delaware Buckeye Valley
Canton South
Carlisle
Carrollton
Cedarville
Kidron Central Christian
Grove City Central Crossing
Youngstown Chaney
Chesapeake
Fairfield Cincinnati Christian
Cincinnati College Prep
Cincinnati Clark Montessori
Batavia Clermont Northeastern
Cleveland School of the Arts
Lodi Cloverleaf
Columbia Station Columbia
Tiffin Columbian
Columbus North International
Bowerston Conotton Valley
Continental
Covington
Columbiana Crestview
Cristo Rey Columbus
Lakeside Danbury
Coal Grove Dawson-Bryant
Delaware Christian School
Cincinnati DePaul Cristo Rey
Sabina East Clinton
East Dayton Christian
Howard East Knox
East Liverpool
East Palestine
Beaver Eastern
Winchester Eastern
Trenton Edgewood
Richmond Edison
Edon
Marion Elgin
Bloomdale Elmwood
Emmanuel Christian
Metamora Evergreen
Lancaster Fairfield Christian
Leesburg Fairfield Local
Lancaster Fairfield Union
Proctorville Fairland
Sidney Fairlawn
Navarre Fairless
Fayette
Fayetteville
Stewart Federal Hocking
Felicity-Franklin
Beverly Fort Frye
Columbus Franklin Heights
Arcanum Franklin Monroe
Fredericktown
New Matamoras Frontier
Beachwood Fuchs Mizrachi
Gallipolis Gallia Academy
Cincinnati Gamble Montessori
Garrettsville Garfield
Geneva
New Boston Glenwood
Grand Valley
Granville Christian Academy
Franklin Furnace Green
Springfield Greenon
Grove City Christian
Groveport Madison
Harrison
Painesville Harvey
Delaware Hayes
Columbiana Heartland Christian
Cincinnati Hillcrest
Hilliard Bradley
Cleveland Horizon Science Academy
Columbus Horizon Science Academy
Houston
Chillicothe Huntington
Columbus Independence
Wintersville Indian Creek
Lewistown Indian Lake
Jackson
North Jackson Jackson-Milton
Cleveland Jane Addams
Jefferson Area
Kelleys Island
Akron Kenmore-Garfield
Kings Mills Kings
KIPP Columbus
Millbury Lake
Hartville Lake Center Christian School
North Ridgeville Lake Ridge Academy
Ashtabula Lakeside
Shaker Heights Laurel School
Morrow Little Miami
Logan
Circleville Logan Elm
London
Lorain
Warren Lordstown
Lowellville
Lucas
Rocky River Lutheran West
Lynchburg-Clay
Madison
Middletown Madison
Groveport Madison Christian
London Madison-Plains
Malvern
Manchester
Ashland Mapleton
Marietta
Columbus Marion-Franklin
Cleveland Martin Luther King Jr
Marysville
Maumee
Toledo Maumee Valley Country Day
Cleveland Max S. Hayes
Greenfield McClain
Sebring McKinley
Pomeroy Meigs
Cincinnati Mercy McAuley
Washington Court House Miami Trace
Cincinnati Miami Valley Christian Academy
Dayton Miami Valley School
Franklin Middletown Christian
Grafton Midview
Corning Miller
Millersport
West Milton Milton-Union
Minford
Union City Mississinawa Valley
Monroe
Montpelier
McConnelsville Morgan
Cincinnati Mount Healthy
Mount Vernon
New Paris National Trail
New Lexington
Hamilton New Miami
New Richmond
Newton Falls
Niles McKinley
Parma Normandy
Seaman North Adams
Pioneer North Central
North Ridgeville
Richwood North Union
Cleveland Northeast Ohio College Prep
Springfield Northeastern
Galion Northmor
Johnstown Northridge
Westerville Northside Christian
Cincinnati Northwest
McDermott Northwest
Northwood
Portsmouth Notre Dame
Oak Harbor
Delaware Olentangy Berlin
Elyria Open Door Christian
Ottoville
Akron Our Lady Of The Elms
Cincinnati Oyler
Pandora-Gilboa
Parma
Columbus Patriot Preparatory Academy
Peebles
Lima Perry
Perry
Duncan Falls Philo
Piketon
Port Clinton
West Portsmouth Portsmouth West
Camden Preble Shawnee
Put-In-Bay
Andover Pymatuning Valley
Mount Victory Ridgemont
West Lafayette Ridgewood
Ripley-Union-Lewis-Huntington
Rittman
Hannibal River
Bidwell River Valley
Mount Blanchard Riverdale
De Graff Riverside
Painesville Riverside
Cincinnati Riverview East
Ironton Rock Hill
Rootstown
Rossford
Magnolia Sandy Valley
Cincinnati School for Creative Performing Arts
Plain City Shekinah Christian
Sarahsville Shenandoah
Thornville Sheridan
Cincinnati Shroder
Smithville
Willoughby South
Greenwich South Central
Crown City South Gallia
South Point
Chillicothe Southeastern
Racine Southern
Salineville Southern
Spencerville
Springboro
Holland Springfield
New Middletown Springfield
St. Bernard-Elmwood Place
Ashtabula St. John
Cleveland St. Joseph Academy
Ironton St. Joseph Central
Fremont St. Joseph Central Catholic
Cleveland St. Martin De Porres
Dayton Stivers School for the Arts
Stryker
Swanton
Willow Wood Symmes Valley
Oxford Talawanda
Lima Temple Christian
Toledo Christian
Columbus Tree of Life Christian
Lewisburg Tri-County North
Glouster Trimble
Dresden Tri-Valley
Wooster Triway
Zoarville Tuscarawas Valley
Massillon Tuslaw
West Alexandria Twin Valley South
Belmont Union Local
Chillicothe Unioto
Hanoverton United Local
Utica
Youngstown Valley Christian
Vanlue
Vermilion
Powell Village Academy
McArthur Vinton County
Toledo Waite
Vincent Warren
Massillon Washington
Wellington
Wellston
Wellsville
West Carrollton
Batavia West Clermont
Chesterland West Geauga
Zanesville West Muskingum
West Union
Latham Western
Mount Orab Western Brown
Berlin Center Western Reserve
Collins Western Reserve
Westlake
Galloway Westland
Columbus Whetstone
Mowrystown Whiteoak
Toledo Whitmer
Cleveland Whitney Young
Willard
Wilmington
Windham
Bucyrus Wynford
Chillicothe Zane Trace

Thanks for all of the work. I don't know why, but seeing Bellbrook and Springboro on that list see surprising to me. Only because I believe they have quality athletic programs across a number of sports.
 

TCSoup

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Boys bowling 2017
They aren't on the list of State Champions with 1 Westerville South is listed with one Boys Bowling Title And a total of 4 . Did they Win one also? If not they are getting credit for WC BB Title.
 
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GPinLV

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Indulge me for veering slightly off-topic, but I find it interesting that Bridgeport HS has two state championships, both in wrestling (The 1959 title led by Bobby Douglas, a two-time Olympian, World Championships medalist, and legendary coach), but none in any other sport, despite being one of a handful of American high schools to produce Hall of Fame athletes in at least two of the three major American professional sports (Phil Niekro in baseball & John Havlicek in basketball).
 

Mackinbiner

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Indulge me for veering slightly off-topic, but I find it interesting that Bridgeport HS has two state championships, both in wrestling (The 1959 title led by Bobby Douglas, a two-time Olympian, World Championships medalist, and legendary coach), but none in any other sport, despite being one of a handful of American high schools to produce Hall of Fame athletes in at least two of the three major American professional sports (Phil Niekro in baseball & John Havlicek in basketball).
Looking at OHSAA's information, when Havlicek played, Bridgeport didn't even make it to the Regionals. And Niekro's baseball teams never made it to the final 4.
 
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pcbuck

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They aren't on the list of State Champions with 1 Westerville South is listed with one Boys Bowling Title And a total of 4 . Did they Win one also? If not they are getting credit for WC BB Title.
According to the OHSAA website in the bowling history section, Westerville Central won that title in 2017 (not South.)
Central had 2 boys in the top 20 in the individual competition. South had 0 boys in the top 50 in the individual competition.

Also, Westerville South does indeed have 4 state championships. That list doesn't include their boys basketball title from 2016 when they beat Lima Senior
 

algernonsidney

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Indulge me for veering slightly off-topic, but I find it interesting that Bridgeport HS has two state championships, both in wrestling (The 1959 title led by Bobby Douglas, a two-time Olympian, World Championships medalist, and legendary coach), but none in any other sport, despite being one of a handful of American high schools to produce Hall of Fame athletes in at least two of the three major American professional sports (Phil Niekro in baseball & John Havlicek in basketball).

They had a great wrestling coach named George Kovalick back in those days. They won many OVAC titles, beating many schools which were much larger.

Kovalick did coach baseball as well. In fact, he lead West Liberty to an NAIA championship with Joe Niekro pitching for them.
 
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EagleFan

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They aren't on the list of State Champions with 1 Westerville South is listed with one Boys Bowling Title And a total of 4 . Did they Win one also? If not they are getting credit for WC BB Title.
Central won in 2017. I just saw that summary chart and looks like OHSAA made an error there. It is also out of date, as St. Edward is at 62.
 
Here are some schools that have zero OHSAA team titles:

Rayland Buckeye Local
Wintersville Indian Creek
Richmond Edison Local
Cadiz Harrison Central
Wellsville
East Liverpool Beaver Local
Belmont Union Local
Martins Ferry
Bellaire
Hannibal River
Beallsville
Salineville Southern Local
Martins Ferry has won 2 state team titles

1930 Baseball
1941 basketball

also won 1942 tennis doubles. Tennis does not award team title just the winner.
 

4GX

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West Clermont has never won one, but they’ve only existed about 4-5 years. Not sure if the consolidated Glen Este and Amelia ever did. I’ll have to check.

Followup, Amelia won a baseball title, Glen Este was shutout.
Amazing-- I was going to say that Glen Este (which had some pretty good baseball teams, back in the 1970's) HAD maybe won (in baseball)-- I NEVER would have guessed on Amelia being the one that HAD.
 

4GX

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That absolutely, positively does not count.
I think that it should-- the professional leagues credit championships for a franchise that has moved around-- or even disappeared, and then been reborn-- the NFL is apparently crediting the current Cleveland Browns franchise (circa 1998) with the championships won by the previous Cleveland Browns franchise (now in Baltimore-- which franchise is NOT being credited with those championships). Conversely, the Indianapolis Colts are claiming the championship(s) won by the Baltimore Colts, in addition to that won by the Indianapolis team. The Oakland A's have nine championships-- with many of them won as the Philadelphia A's; the Golden State Warriors claim the title won by the Philadelphia Warriors, and the Los Angeles Lakers claim the titles won by the Minneapolis Lakers.

Sticking with that idea, I think that West Clermont should be taken off this list of non-championship winners-- if Amelia (a predecessor school) won one-- and I think that either or both of Mercy and Macauley won state titles that should (now) be credited to the combined school-- as should championships won by Greenhills or Forest Park to the successor, Winton Woods (which, of course, also has some under its current name, now).
 

bluepride1990

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I think that it should-- the professional leagues credit championships for a franchise that has moved around-- or even disappeared, and then been reborn-- the NFL is apparently crediting the current Cleveland Browns franchise (circa 1998) with the championships won by the previous Cleveland Browns franchise (now in Baltimore-- which franchise is NOT being credited with those championships). Conversely, the Indianapolis Colts are claiming the championship(s) won by the Baltimore Colts, in addition to that won by the Indianapolis team. The Oakland A's have nine championships-- with many of them won as the Philadelphia A's; the Golden State Warriors claim the title won by the Philadelphia Warriors, and the Los Angeles Lakers claim the titles won by the Minneapolis Lakers.

Sticking with that idea, I think that West Clermont should be taken off this list of non-championship winners-- if Amelia (a predecessor school) won one-- and I think that either or both of Mercy and Macauley won state titles that should (now) be credited to the combined school-- as should championships won by Greenhills or Forest Park to the successor, Winton Woods (which, of course, also has some under its current name, now).
I can see both sides. The pro issue is the team moves it is a continuation of the team from another city. The Browns are different because when the City and fans sued the NFL and Modell about the move the agreement to settle included an the expansion team that is the current Browns and the history would stay in Cleveland with the name.

I think the big school consolidations of the 50s and 60s are different because I would guess in most cases entire “districts” were merged but in others they may have split. I know there were no high schools in what is now Massillon Tuslaw the kids went from the township grade schools to Massillon Washington, Dalton, Canal Fulton (now CF Northwest) or Navarre/Brewster (now Fairless) depending on where they lived and if they were going to go to school past 6 or 8 grade. I have been in some schools where the trophy case includes the championship (state or league) of a predecessor school while others do not. During those consolidations some took on new names and the history disappears for the old schools and others one Legacy school just got bigger and their records continue.

There is also a difference in the local school recognizing the history (keep alumni happy) and OHSAA recognizing the school.
 

algernonsidney

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I think that it should-- the professional leagues credit championships for a franchise that has moved around-- or even disappeared, and then been reborn-- the NFL is apparently crediting the current Cleveland Browns franchise (circa 1998) with the championships won by the previous Cleveland Browns franchise (now in Baltimore-- which franchise is NOT being credited with those championships). Conversely, the Indianapolis Colts are claiming the championship(s) won by the Baltimore Colts, in addition to that won by the Indianapolis team. The Oakland A's have nine championships-- with many of them won as the Philadelphia A's; the Golden State Warriors claim the title won by the Philadelphia Warriors, and the Los Angeles Lakers claim the titles won by the Minneapolis Lakers.

Sticking with that idea, I think that West Clermont should be taken off this list of non-championship winners-- if Amelia (a predecessor school) won one-- and I think that either or both of Mercy and Macauley won state titles that should (now) be credited to the combined school-- as should championships won by Greenhills or Forest Park to the successor, Winton Woods (which, of course, also has some under its current name, now).

And your comparisons of professional teams are absolutely, positively absurd.

Sometimes the school district closes an old building and replaces it with a new building. That is perfectly okay as far as recognizing history. It's not the same as the creation of a totally new high school.

Are you also going to say that Westerville North, Westerville South, and Westerville Central can claim the history of the old Westerville High School?
 

reganaustinjames

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And your comparisons of professional teams are absolutely, positively absurd.

Sometimes the school district closes an old building and replaces it with a new building. That is perfectly okay as far as recognizing history. It's not the same as the creation of a totally new high school.

Are you also going to say that Westerville North, Westerville South, and Westerville Central can claim the history of the old Westerville High School?

Actually, Westerville South is considered to have been the original Westerville HS, having been renamed once North opened in 1975. This is similar to Hilliard's situation, as the original Hilliard HS became Hilliard Davidson in 1997 when Darby opened. Conversely, there have also been situations where a single high school split into 2 completely new schools (e.g. Lakota splitting into Lakota East and Lakota West in 1997).

As for championship recognition, there can be a difference between official recognition and how something is treated by the local community. Does Amelia's baseball championship count for West Clermont? Clearly it doesn't, but there's no harm in having the trophy and banner in the school for the alumni's sake. In one extreme example, in Columbus, the trophies won by the old Wehrle HS are displayed at Ready HS, their old rival.
 

algernonsidney

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Actually, Westerville South is considered to have been the original Westerville HS, having been renamed once North opened in 1975. This is similar to Hilliard's situation, as the original Hilliard HS became Hilliard Davidson in 1997 when Darby opened. Conversely, there have also been situations where a single high school split into 2 completely new schools (e.g. Lakota splitting into Lakota East and Lakota West in 1997).

As for championship recognition, there can be a difference between official recognition and how something is treated by the local community. Does Amelia's baseball championship count for West Clermont? Clearly it doesn't, but there's no harm in having the trophy and banner in the school for the alumni's sake. In one extreme example, in Columbus, the trophies won by the old Wehrle HS are displayed at Ready HS, their old rival.

I don't argue with keeping the trophies. You have to put the trophies and banners somewhere. I think it's great that Ready would keep the Wehrle tropies.

I just don't think it's part of the official history.

I also don't object to claiming alumni.
 

4GX

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And your comparisons of professional teams are absolutely, positively absurd.

Sometimes the school district closes an old building and replaces it with a new building. That is perfectly okay as far as recognizing history. It's not the same as the creation of a totally new high school.

Are you also going to say that Westerville North, Westerville South, and Westerville Central can claim the history of the old Westerville High School?
Nothing absurd about it... and Yup on Westerville.
 

4GX

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Actually, Westerville South is considered to have been the original Westerville HS, having been renamed once North opened in 1975. This is similar to Hilliard's situation, as the original Hilliard HS became Hilliard Davidson in 1997 when Darby opened. Conversely, there have also been situations where a single high school split into 2 completely new schools (e.g. Lakota splitting into Lakota East and Lakota West in 1997).

As for championship recognition, there can be a difference between official recognition and how something is treated by the local community. Does Amelia's baseball championship count for West Clermont? Clearly it doesn't, but there's no harm in having the trophy and banner in the school for the alumni's sake. In one extreme example, in Columbus, the trophies won by the old Wehrle HS are displayed at Ready HS, their old rival.
West Clermont should get credit for Amelia's championship, Lakota East and West should get credit for Lakota's championship(s), and Hamilton (both before and after) should get credit for any that Hamilton Taft and Garfield may have won, when it was split.
 
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