Ohio State at NCAAs

[MPhillips]

I was just trying to add to your post, nothing more Mike.

Understood brother. I only quoted for reference and because you were the last post. No snark intended. Mea culpa...

 

[kessen157]

Must not have been held back if you follow this forums threads.

He is 21 year SO so must’ve gray shirted or something.

 

[Insidetrip73]

Cael can't win with his recruit's..he needs transfer's!

Tell that to Gable Stevenson ALL world recruit losing to a 1x state champ TWICE. Tom Ryan has had MANY top elite recruits who fizzled out, far more than Cael.

 

[NCAAOHref]

You are right, with Penn St gobbling up all those points, it made everyone behind them very close in points. Ohio State was 10.5 points away from 2nd place, so if you had a healthy Sasso at 157 this year, where would the Buckeye's have finished? Very real possibility they finish in 2nd place with 4 AAs, and 3 of them in the finals with 1-2 champions.

Yep with Sasso 4 AAs.... 3 from PA and one from IN and zero from OH.

 

[Old&Grumpy142]

Tell that to Gable Stevenson ALL world recruit losing to a 1x state champ TWICE. Tom Ryan has had MANY top elite recruits who fizzled out, far more than Cael.

Robbie Howard, Mason Manville, Joe Lee, Adam Bussiello, Seth Nevills, Jared Verkleeren and Jared Cortez would like a word.

Cael swings and misses from time to time too.

 

[Yankeefan33]

Robbie Howard, Mason Manville, Joe Lee, Adam Bussiello, Seth Nevills, Jared Verkleeren and Jared Cortez would like a word.

Cael swings and missed from time to time too.

Also, to be fair, Anthony Cassar was a Junior world teamer who lost in the quarters in part to an injury (starting his injury problems). His recruiting ranking/early college results did not reflect that talent.

 

[MPhillips]

From another board.

Over and Under points.
Team scores projected strictly on seeds (advancement and placement points) and how many placement and advancement points they actually scored (no bonus).

Over-Performers
1. Ohio State (+16.5)
2. Michigan (+16)
3. Stanford (+15)
4. Little Rock (+10)
4. Lock Haven (+10)
6. Virginia Tech (+9)
7. Oklahoma (+8.5)
8. Penn State (+7)
9. Navy (6.5)
9. Arizona State (6.5)

Under-Performers
1. NC State (-46.5)
2. Lehigh (-27)
3. Purdue (-12)
4. Northern Iowa (-10)
5. Harvard (-8.5)
6. Binghamton (-8)
7. Illinois (-7.5)
8. Oklahoma State (-6.5)
9. Cal Poly (-5.5)
10. Air Force (-5)

 

[yankeescap]

He was at CP last year as a RS.

Cal Baptist, FWIW.

 

[OCEagle]

When I originally wrote about getting portal talent to fill holes, I had Michigan in mind. They ended up getting the 2nd place trophy with the transfers, without them, they would have been way down the list. As noted in another post, 74% of their points came from the transfers via the portal. I think we have an idea where the holes are at in terms of getting points at the NCAA championships. But I think there is also some valid thinking that at least a few of those holes could fill in next year as the youth gets some more experience.

 

[wrestlfan]

how big of a boost to recruiting is it when you can say that every single one of your starters is a guy that was recruited and developed by the current staff?
to me thats a big deal
id much rather have OSUs points with their own recruits than MIchigan with their portal hoppers

 

[TheFan1]

MP posted a short list... here's more home cooked schools.

 

[galewrestling]

It would be interesting to take all the transfer that scored points and see what scores of other teams would have been if they had stayed where they were.

 

[MPhillips]

NCAA team performance by schools over the past ten NCAA Tournaments (2014-2024) sorted by average.

1. Penn State: Average of 128.5 Team Points; 8 NCAA Team titles, 9 NCAA Team Trophies, 32 NCAA Champions, 67 All-Americans - High Finish (1), Low Finish (6)

2. Iowa: Average of 86.6 Team Points, 1 NCAA Team title, 8 NCAA Team Trophies, 7 NCAA Champions, 56 All-Americans - High Finish (1), Low Finish (5)

3. Ohio State: Average of 80.8 Team Points, 1 NCAA Team title, 6 NCAA Team Trophies, 10 NCAA Champions, 45 All-Americans - High Finish (1), Low Finish (13)

4. Oklahoma State: Average of 70.6 Team Points, 5 NCAA Team Trophies, 7 NCAA Champions, 45 NCAA All-Americans - High Finish (2), Low Finish (18)

5. Cornell: Average of 62.6 Team Points, 2 NCAA Team Trophies, 9 NCAA Champions, 32 All-Americans (Only appeared in 9 NCAA Tournaments in this span) - High Finish (2), Low Finish (8)

6. Missouri: Average of 62.6 Team Points, 1 NCAA Team Trophy, 6 NCAA Champions, 37 All-Americans - High Finish (4), Low Finish (14)

7. Michigan: Average of 62.3 Team Points, 3 NCAA Team Trophies, 2 NCAA Champions, 40 All-Americans - High Finish (2), Low Finish (17)

8. Virginia Tech: Average of 55 Team Points, 1 NCAA Team Trophy, 2 NCAA Champions, 39 All-Americans - High Finish (4), Low Finish (15)

9. Nebraska: Average of 53 Team Points, 35 All-Americans - High Finish (5), Low Finish (12)

10. Minnesota: Average of 49.8 Team Points, 1 NCAA Team Trophy, 2 NCAA Champions, 33 All-Americans - High Finish (2), Low Finish (22)

11. NC State: Average of 45.9 Team Points, 1 NCAA Team Trophy, 3 NCAA Champions, 23 All-Americans - High Finish (4), Low Finish (19)

12. Arizona State: Average of 40.8 Team Points, 2 NCAA Team Trophies, 3 NCAA Champions, 27 All-Americans - High Finish (4), Low Finish (58)

13. Iowa State: Average of 34.2 Team Points, 3 NCAA Champions, 20 All-Americans - High Finish (4), Low Finish (57)

14. Lehigh: Average of 31 Team Points, 1 NCAA Champion, 22 All-Americans - High Finish (12), Low Finish (31)

15. Illinois: Average of 30 Team Points, 3 NCAA Champions, 16 All-Americans - High Finish (9), Low Finish (38)

16. Northern Iowa: Average of 27.4 Team Points, 2 NCAA Champions, 13 All-Americans - High Finish (13), Low Finish (34)

17. Rutgers: Average of 26.6 Team Points, 2 NCAA Champions, 17 All-Americans - High Finish (9), Low Finish (34)

18. Wisconsin: Average of 26.5 Team Points, 19 All-Americans - High Finish (13), Low Finish (23)

19. Northwestern: Average of 26.3 Team Points, 2 NCAA Champions, 16 All-Americans - High Finish (6), Low Finish (50)

20. North Carolina: Average of 22.6 Team Points, 16 All-Americans - High Finish (12), Low Finish (41)

InterMat

 

[1$’s 2¢]

MP posted a short list... here's more home cooked schools.
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Iowa?