Ohio Heritage Conference 2025

OHC Champs (Pick One From Each Division)

  • (N) Fairbanks

    Votes: 5 11.4%

  • (N) Mechanicsburg

    Votes: 8 18.2%

  • (N) Northeastern

    Votes: 4 9.1%

  • (N) Triad

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • (N) West Jefferson

    Votes: 13 29.5%

  • (N) West Liberty-Salem

    Votes: 10 22.7%

  • (S) Catholic Central

    Votes: 2 4.5%

  • (S) Cedarville

    Votes: 1 2.3%

  • (S) Greeneview

    Votes: 31 70.5%

  • (S) Greenon

    Votes: 2 4.5%

  • (S) Madison Plains

    Votes: 3 6.8%

  • (S) Southeastern

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Total voters
    44
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wls_color

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With the conclusion of the 2024 season, it's time to start talking about next year.

The top teams in both divisions have a lot of shoes to fill. It should make for an interesting season, I think the door is wide open for someone "new" to win conference titles. Although, I do think WJ is the odds on favorite in the North.

What do you guys think?
 
 
WLS loses 17 seniors. I have no idea who the QB will be. The second stringers honestly didn't get a lot of varsity reps this year, even in blowouts. So I'm guessing a very slow start for the defending OHC North and Region 20 Champs. I was told WLS opens with Jonathan Alder, and then a much improved Ben Logan team in Week 2.
 
going with Fairbanks and Greeneview as champs. curious to see if West Jeff has enough in the cupboard to stay a contender. can Mechanicsburg go back to being dominant?

Look for Madison-Plains to have another good season. I expect Greenon to start turning a corner and being more competitive again.
 
I think WJ returns the most from last year. I believe we had 8 Seniors. One was only a kicker. WJ loses 2 starting OL and 1 WR on offense. WJ loses 1 starting DL, 1 CB and 1 SAF. Hopefully a year of experience for the young guys and a great offseason helps put WJ back on track.
 
BIG OHC said:
I think WJ returns the most from last year. I believe we had 8 Seniors. One was only a kicker. WJ loses 2 starting OL and 1 WR on offense. WJ loses 1 starting DL, 1 CB and 1 SAF. Hopefully a year of experience for the young guys and a great offseason helps put WJ back on track.
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Yeah, I think they're set up nicely for a great season. With Buescher going into his senior year too, hopefully the RR's young/beat up receiving core takes a step for them too. If so, the sky is the limit.
 
1@ Washington Court House
2@ Urbana
3(H) South Charleston Southeastern
4@ Madison Plains
5(H) Greeneview
6@ Triad
7(H) Fairbanks
8@ West Jefferson
9(H) Springfield Northeastern
10@ West Liberty-Salem

No clue how accurate this is but this is what Burg schedule looks like for 2025. Top to bottom this looks like their strongest schedule in quite some time. The first 2 games will be very interesting, against a Washington Court House who will have a new coaching staff and then a very good Urbana team. Burg will return 8 starters on both sides of the ball including QB, whole starting WR group, 2/3 Running Backs. Biggest thing with this team over the last few years has been turnovers and penalties. I expect Burg to pass the ball a bunch again but will look to get that running game more involved especially with their 2 fastest running backs back.
 
Here is how many seniors each team will have to replace from 2024 (according the OHC website) FWIW

North

WLS - 17
FB -15
NE - 9
WJ - 8
Triad - 6
Burg - 5

South

GV - 16
MP - 8
SE - 7
Greenon - 6
SCC - 4
CV - 3
 
D5 in SWO should be wide open again next year as I dont expect versailles to improve that much.

So........great chance for another state berth for an OHC squad
 
Thavoice said:
D5 in SWO should be wide open again next year as I dont expect versailles to improve that much.

So........great chance for another state berth for an OHC squad
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I don't see it unfortunately. Our only lock D5 teams are Greeneview and Greenon. WLS and Madison Plains both teeter on the border. With that said, the only team I think has the potential to be a regional champion contender next year is West Jeff. And that's if a lot of kids there take some big leaps this off season.

I believe we are also on the cusp of a power shift in the OHC (both divisions really). It's been WJ/Burg/WLS in the North and Greeneview in the South. While I do think WJ stays up top, WLS and Burg appear to be in the process of a decline. I also think Greeneview is in the process of that decline as well, but it's a little easier to stay on top in the South (with all due respect).
 
wls_color said:
I don't see it unfortunately. Our only lock D5 teams are Greeneview and Greenon. WLS and Madison Plains both teeter on the border. With that said, the only team I think has the potential to be a regional champion contender next year is West Jeff. And that's if a lot of kids there take some big leaps this off season.

I believe we are also on the cusp of a power shift in the OHC (both divisions really). It's been WJ/Burg/WLS in the North and Greeneview in the South. While I do think WJ stays up top, WLS and Burg appear to be in the process of a decline. I also think Greeneview is in the process of that decline as well, but it's a little easier to stay on top in the South (with all due respect).
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"WLS and Madison Plains both teeter on the border"
Up or down a division?
 
Took me down a rabbit hole, thanks @Gamma Gobbler 😂

I know most of WLS' open enrollment kids are from Urbana. I was just driving through the middle of Urbana last night and saw a "A New Tiger Lives Here" sign and quite a few of my sons' friend group live in the heart of Urbana. So it made me want to see the CB numbers for each OHC school this past season.

West Liberty-Salem +16
Catholic Central +15
Greeneview +14
Mechanicsburg +13
Triad +12
Northeastern +10
Madison Plains +9
Southeastern +8
Cedarville +6
Fairbanks +4
Greenon +2
West Jefferson +2
 
wls_color said:
Between 5 and 6. I know for WLS it depends on CB numbers every year. If they closed enrollment they would likely be D6 every year (I think this year was the exception).
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Hmmm, I don't know if dropping down would be better or worse. If they go down, I will assume they would be in R24 and then would presumably have CW in their way...no matter what Thavoice says about the MACDonald's conference being down, lol.

Could MP drop to D7 or teetering to D5? IMO, D6 is a good landing spot for them considering what they would be up against in R28.

As you know, all of the regional assignments are conditional on body counts but just speculating since I HAVE ABSOLUTELY nothing to do and I like it when you get into the rabbit hole. :ROFLMAO:
 
D5: Greenon 182 (180+2)
D5: West Liberty-Salem 179 (163+16)
D5: Greeneview 178 (164+14)
D6: Fairbanks 152 (148+4)
D6: Northeastern 155 (145+10)
D6: Madison Plains 142 (133+9)
D6: Triad 133 (121+12)
D6: West Jefferson 128 (126+2)
D6: Mechanicsburg 126 (113+13)
D7: Southeastern 90 (82+8)
D7: Cedarville 73 (67+6)
D7: Catholic Central 66 (51+15)

So this goes to show I have no idea what I'm talking about and/or I'm living in 2016 still.

The only "lock" for D5 is Greenon. WLS and Greeneview both could go down to 6. Fairbanks and Northeastern could go up to 5 and are the other "teeterers."

In my head I always thought the enrollment numbers for OHC schools were something like this:

1. Greenon
2. Greeneview
3. Madison Plains
4. West Liberty-Salem
5. Northeastern
6. West Jefferson
7. Fairbanks
8. Mechanicsburg
9. Triad
10. Southeastern
11. Cedarville
12. Catholic Central

I was way off. I have to get work done now lol.
 
WJ numbers are very low at the moment. I do know the school board open up open enrollment because class sizes were so small. Also additional housing was approved by the village. I believe they are building 150-160 homes plus some apartments.
 
wls_color said:
D5: Greenon 182 (180+2)
D5: West Liberty-Salem 179 (163+16)
D5: Greeneview 178 (164+14)
D6: Fairbanks 152 (148+4)
D6: Northeastern 155 (145+10)
D6: Madison Plains 142 (133+9)
D6: Triad 133 (121+12)
D6: West Jefferson 128 (126+2)
D6: Mechanicsburg 126 (113+13)
D7: Southeastern 90 (82+8)
D7: Cedarville 73 (67+6)
D7: Catholic Central 66 (51+15)

So this goes to show I have no idea what I'm talking about and/or I'm living in 2016 still.

The only "lock" for D5 is Greenon. WLS and Greeneview both could go down to 6. Fairbanks and Northeastern could go up to 5 and are the other "teeterers."

In my head I always thought the enrollment numbers for OHC schools were something like this:

1. Greenon
2. Greeneview
3. Madison Plains
4. West Liberty-Salem
5. Northeastern
6. West Jefferson
7. Fairbanks
8. Mechanicsburg
9. Triad
10. Southeastern
11. Cedarville
12. Catholic Central

I was way off. I have to get work done now lol.
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Nice job!!! Between you and @ghsknightsfan you cats are really sharp keeping track of this stuff. I have to believe you enjoyed posting this than actually working for money🤔 :ROFLMAO:

What sticks out to me, CB#s, are Greenon being a 2, considering the number of school districts they butt up against, then adding in the new school, not on BFE Rebert Pike and S. Tecumseh to a more centrally, easily accessed location. Then seeing WL-S having a larger CB than SCC. I guess that is the Urbana influence you mentioned early.

Where are the GV and Burg CBs coming from? BTW, who profits from the Yellow Springs kids? There was a time YS had some cats that could play. I remember watching their 16 member, state champ track team, disassemble Greenon in 18 minutes...Andy Waddle's soph/jr year. I have to believe there are kids in that community that play football and curious where they would go? Cedarville?
 
Gamma Gobbler said:
Nice job!!! Between you and @ghsknightsfan you cats are really sharp keeping track of this stuff. I have to believe you enjoyed posting this than actually working for money🤔 :ROFLMAO:

What sticks out to me, CB#s, are Greenon being a 2, considering the number of school districts they butt up against, then adding in the new school, not on BFE Rebert Pike and S. Tecumseh to a more centrally, easily accessed location. Then seeing WL-S having a larger CB than SCC. I guess that is the Urbana influence you mentioned early.

Where are the GV and Burg CBs coming from? BTW, who profits from the Yellow Springs kids? There was a time YS had some cats that could play. I remember watching their 16 member, state champ track team, disassemble Greenon in 18 minutes...Andy Waddle's soph/jr year. I have to believe there are kids in that community that play football and curious where they would go? Cedarville?
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as for the Yellow Springs kids..i would guess they go where open enrollment allows. I assume Xenia and Fairborn have had a few.. and i remember a Cedarville player who I was told lived on the Yellow Springs side of Clifton Road..

Wayne also had a very impressive Offensive Tackle who lived in Yellow Springs.. hint, he plays at Notre Dame now.

it’s too bad Yellow Springs doesn’t have football anymore. they would be a PERFECT fit in the OHC south.
 
ghsknightsfan said:
as for the Yellow Springs kids..i would guess they go where open enrollment allows. I assume Xenia and Fairborn have had a few.. and i remember a Cedarville player who I was told lived on the Yellow Springs side of Clifton Road..

Wayne also had a very impressive Offensive Tackle who lived in Yellow Springs.. hint, he plays at Notre Dame now.

it’s too bad Yellow Springs doesn’t have football anymore. they would be a PERFECT fit in the OHC south.
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:ROFLMAO: Aah, Wagner totally slipped my mind.

Who does the OHC offer when Greenon leaves? Would the OHC look for a school in the "south" or do they just try to fill the void with a similar sized school and adjust the divisions as close as they can to North/South? Kind of getting into the ACC with Cal or the SEC with teams west of the MS River.

Considering what a poster on the CBC thread posted about North Onion always looking, would they fit better into the OHC? I don't necessarily think them jumping to the OHC would give them any advantage. @wls_color has pointed out, and rightfully so, the "little brother" has a better record.

I guess the reality, when one school jumps, there is a domino effect and somebody is going to be left on the outside, al a Trotwood.
 
Gamma Gobbler said:
:ROFLMAO: Aah, Wagner totally slipped my mind.

Who does the OHC offer when Greenon leaves? Would the OHC look for a school in the "south" or do they just try to fill the void with a similar sized school and adjust the divisions as close as they can to North/South? Kind of getting into the ACC with Cal or the SEC with teams west of the MS River.

Considering what a poster on the CBC thread posted about North Onion always looking, would they fit better into the OHC? I don't necessarily think them jumping to the OHC would give them any advantage. @wls_color has pointed out, and rightfully so, the "little brother" has a better record.

I guess the reality, when one school jumps, there is a domino effect and somebody is going to be left on the outside, al a Trotwood.
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it sounds like North Union may join the North, and Northeastern would get bumped to the south? seems like that would make everyone happier.
 
ghsknightsfan said:
it sounds like North Union may join the North, and Northeastern would get bumped to the south? seems like that would make everyone happier.
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Wait? What? The Onions are going to the OHC? In my mind's eye, I was thinking NU would fit in the North with NE going South but... is this speculation?
 
ghsknightsfan said:
it sounds like North Union may join the North, and Northeastern would get bumped to the south? seems like that would make everyone happier.
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You’ve been right about a lot of this chatter thus far. Is this really the talks? If so, that’s a massive win for the OHC North. North Union is a great fit. Although, it would be ideal from a competitive standpoint if Triad went to the South. Logistically it makes the most sense to be Northeastern though.

I wonder if the OHC would take 3 teams if Greenon leaves? A combo of CBC MRD teams makes sense. I’ve heard Graham wants in too.
 
wls_color said:
You’ve been right about a lot of this chatter thus far. Is this really the talks? If so, that’s a massive win for the OHC North. North Union is a great fit. Although, it would be ideal from a competitive standpoint if Triad went to the South. Logistically it makes the most sense to be Northeastern though.

I wonder if the OHC would take 3 teams if Greenon leaves? A combo of CBC MRD teams makes sense. I’ve heard Graham wants in too.
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If multiple MRD teams leave, that could spell bad news for the CBC.
 
Gamma Gobbler said:
Nice job!!! Between you and @ghsknightsfan you cats are really sharp keeping track of this stuff. I have to believe you enjoyed posting this than actually working for money🤔 :ROFLMAO:

What sticks out to me, CB#s, are Greenon being a 2, considering the number of school districts they butt up against, then adding in the new school, not on BFE Rebert Pike and S. Tecumseh to a more centrally, easily accessed location. Then seeing WL-S having a larger CB than SCC. I guess that is the Urbana influence you mentioned early.

Where are the GV and Burg CBs coming from? BTW, who profits from the Yellow Springs kids? There was a time YS had some cats that could play. I remember watching their 16 member, state champ track team, disassemble Greenon in 18 minutes...Andy Waddle's soph/jr year. I have to believe there are kids in that community that play football and curious where they would go? Cedarville?
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I think this is a common myth about high school sports in Ohio. It is unfortunate for the kids who want to play football (or any sport) but attend a school that doesn't offer it, but according to the OHSAA they are out of luck. Students who attend a public high school are not allowed to play a sport for another school if they are not enrolled there. The only student athletes who are allowed to play a sport at a public high school they do not actually attend are home school, stem school and those who attend non-public schools. So students who attend Yellow Springs are not allowed to play football for any other school.

Bylaw 4-3-1 states, “All students participating in a school-sponsored sport must be enrolled in and attending full-time in accordance with all duly adopted Board of Education or similar governing board policies of that school.” There are seven exceptions to this Bylaw. Exception six (6) refers to state law, and the four categories of students that are covered and have a participation opportunity at the public school in the parents' district of residence are:
  1. Home educated students (students excused from compulsory attendance)
  2. Community school students
  3. STEM school students
  4. Non-public school students
6. The public school my student attends does not offer a certain sport. Are students who want to play that sport eligible at a different school?

For a 'conventional' public school, NO. Bylaw 4-3-1 indicates that a student must be enrolled and attending full-time to have the privilege of athletic participation. Exception 6 of Bylaw 4-3-1 indicates that there is an exception in accordance with state law. The students who have an opportunity to participate on different school teams in accordance with state law are those who reside in a district and are students who attend the following types of schools: non-public schools, community schools and STEM schools. Students who are home schooled and live in a school district also have an opportunity to participate on those school teams. The language in the state law is not written to include students who attend conventional public schools that do not have a participation opportunity. Remember that the opportunity for non-enrolled students is at the residential public school ONLY, with the two exceptions cited – home educated students and non-public school students.
 
I personally think that KR, Shawnee, and NU should come to the OHC. Cut CC loose and let Greenon leave and i hate to say it, maybe Cedarville. This is all strictly from the standpoint of football. Cedarville can compete in every other sport.
 
Rams78 said:
I personally think that KR, Shawnee, and NU should come to the OHC. Cut CC loose and let Greenon leave and i hate to say it, maybe Cedarville. This is all strictly from the standpoint of football. Cedarville can compete in every other sport.
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Greenons next alignment will be with Kenton Ridge, Shawnee, and Northwestern. i would bet the house on that. whether it’s in the CBC, OHC, or a new league, those 4 will be together (likely along with Northeastern and Tecumseh)
 
ghsknightsfan said:
Greenons next alignment will be with Kenton Ridge, Shawnee, and Northwestern. i would bet the house on that. whether it’s in the CBC, OHC, or a new league, those 4 will be together (likely along with Northeastern and Tecumseh)
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I agree. It makes too much sense to not happen.

All in the same county and all similar in size.

I think this would be a great move for all sides. Also keeps Clark County Rivalries going as well!
 
ghsknightsfan said:
Greenons next alignment will be with Kenton Ridge, Shawnee, and Northwestern. i would bet the house on that. whether it’s in the CBC, OHC, or a new league, those 4 will be together (likely along with Northeastern and Tecumseh)
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I would bet you are correct in regards to Greenon considering the principal is from Northwestern and the AD is a Springfield/Clark county guy.
 
A huge shakeup would be to eliminate the smaller, less competitive schools and go something like this:

NORTH:
West Liberty-Salem
West Jefferson
North Union
Fairbanks
Benjamin Logan
Indian Lake
Graham

SOUTH:
Greeneview
Greenon
Kenton Ridge
Northwestern
Shawnee
Northeastern
Mechanicsburg

It dismantles the CBC and leaves a lot of OHC teams homeless, but from a pure competitive standpoint, that's about as good as we could get in our area with schools of similar size.
 
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