Everyone in here already did that when Malvern went undefeated and everyone trashed those kids season. Not one person had anything good to say about that. But saying Hiland had a down season this year is over the line?
IVC 23-24
- Thread starter The Adam Schefter
- Start date
Northwest is a senior laden team but lacks depth. They are led by Connor Lintz, a 6’1” strong physical guard who has one of the better high school mustaches you’ll ever see. 6’2” Tanner Bolin is their other star who shoots it well from outside but also very crafty on the block.
Their best defender is Jenkins who will get after you. There’s a 6’2” sophomore Wolfenbarker who can hit the outside shot and gives them a nice 3rd option on offense.
Northwest was always in the SOC 2 with heavy weights like Wheelersburg, South Webster, Minford, Waverly etc…. When the SOC split to 3 divisions Northwest dropped to the middle division even though they’re bigger than some of the schools in the top division. They also didn’t play a strong out of conference schedule at all.
A lot of people thought the weak schedule would come back to haunt them in the tournament but it did not. They are playing their best basketball of the season and all kids really seem to believe and buy in. They LOVE playing physical. The more physical the game is, the better they are.
With that said, Malvern is absolutely a step up in competition from Burg/Portsmouth, so it will have to take a monumental effort for Northwest to win here.
I think Northwest will compete and give it their all (they’ll have the biggest crowd and cheer block at the Convo, the community is totally bought in). But Malvern just has more horses here so I’d be surprised if Northwest can pull the upset.
cash randall
Active member
I think most people were saying that the coaches should have scheduled up. The kids don't have anything to do with the schedule and it's wrong to pick apart a great season. And if Malvern loses anyone who tries to discredit the kids is also an idiot imo. From what I've heard South Webster in D4 and Harvest Prep in D3 are the toughest teams besides Malvern.
Good luck to the Hawks and Hornets in there semi's game, make the IVC proud
Yes. Malvern is the best team in the IVC. I hope they make it to state and actually win state. That would be great
I just with the ADULTS had put them in a better position to do so by testing them more in the regular season with a better schedule
Malvern fans should've wanted that as well
I mean in fairness Hiland kids are pretty committed to baseball as well and spend a lot of time playing baseball. It's not like basketball is the only sport Hiland excels at. They've won State in multiple sports.
Do you think its harder to go get extra shots after football practice when you're tackling and getting tackled for 3 hours, or after baseball practice when you might sprint 90 feet twice? Also football is right before the basketball season. Our guys are always beat up after playing 12 or 13 weeks, and it always takes us a bit to get going. Malvern has had it's full team for the first official practice date maybe once in the last 20 years. We always have to start a week or two after you guys. We will lose in football playoffs 3 days later the kids are at basketball practice. Baseball is 6 months away from the basketball season too. It is not even close to the same
Last edited:
cash randall
Active member
From a physical standpoint it's not a comparison I agree. From a time and commitment standpoint Hiland kids that play both sports miss a lot of basketball time in the summer due to baseball commitments and summer leagues. Baseball at Hiland would be similar to basketball at Malvern from a timing standpoint. Kids are late to baseball because they are still playing basketball just like Malvern kids are late to basketball because they play football. I'm curious how many Malvern kids play both sports? Like a JAllen Barrino and Minor and those guys?
20 basketball players I think 16 play football
Ranked
New member
open enrollment
I'm not exactly sure how you can have an opinion while only watching live one time.
Ranked
New member
He's from Malvern
Might sprint 90 yards twice? Haha. No wonder Malvern is terrible at baseball.
The point is let's not act like all Hiland kids do is play basketball while all of the other schools play multiple sports. Hiland actually wins State titles in multiple sports. How many State titles does Malvern have in their history?
And let's not act like Malvern is Kirtland. You've reached week 13 a few times and week 12 maybe 5 times in your school history. Most of your football seasons are 10 games long just like everybody else.
cash randall
Active member
Yep. Someone explained that he used to go there and his parents went there. Good to see him have success back where he belongs.
cash randall
Active member
That is quite a few. I'm sure the football makes a difference esp early on. Has to. Thsts why this time of year is so important. If you can somehow make a tournament run it really helps the young kids that are coming back next year. Extra practices, game plans, pressure situations etc. Many more weeks of that if you can avoid losing early but every class is different.
No that's what I have been told by a few basketball outsiders
And I have seen them more than a few times on live stream, just not in person
It's to bad Malvern wasn't in the IVC South division this season, that would put to rest all non sense b.s. that goes on here,where the had to play IV home and away, Hiland home and away, Garaway home and away, Sandy home and away,TV home and away and even Claymont,then we will would see who's really the best ,I know they played TV at TV,and Garaway at home, and IV neutral site
BelowTheLine
Well-known member
Malvern has an enrollment number of 98 and a competitive balance of 23 which puts their "adjusted enrollment" 121.
120 is the cutoff between DIII and DIV.
BelowTheLine
Well-known member
I wish basketball just played a round robin without divisions.
Hmmm. Could have sworn I sat in the Schott and watched them play a state championship game a few years ago against Convoy Crestview. They got killed because CC was an extraordinary team, but sufficient to prove your theory is errant. Lol
To me, getting to the final four IS the main achievement. Winning one or two games is icing on the cake. Unless you are the most talented and big team there, winning any game involves some luck. I have seen a bunch of very weird things happen at state.
I don't care what your path is to get there. I would agree that the NE is more difficult than the SE, but still, when you do it repeatedly, you are doing something right. Otherwise, many others would be doing it. So, let's be big people and give credit where it is due and not be little and try to diminish the achievements of others.
Mark knows how to coach in these games, and, most importantly, his preparation is elite. If the game can be won, but isn't, it will be because of bad matchups or inadequate performance by his players - but not coaching deficiencies. That's the secret sauce, not some easy path. FWIW
I just seen some of Hiland's next year's non-league schedule,we got Dover at home,and have Ottawa Glandorf at home, Linsly Academy away,And very good with everyone back d2 Lexington at Lex,still two non-league yet to be determined,and the two showcase opponents to be determined
BelowTheLine
Well-known member
It would interesting to see the records over the years of teams coming out of each regional at state. Not just in basketball but in all of the sports.
Hawksfan197
Member
So what division will Hiland be in next year with the seven divisions and are we going to have a sectionals anymore or just district? I am not going tomorrow night to the game but will watch it on tv. I think it’s going to get ugly quick I watch a little bit of the Christian school and they don’t look to good they must play a very weak teams. I am predicting at least a 20 point win. Friday is different I think we will win but close game Fairfield and south Webster both look good
Hawksfan197
Member
Do you we have any big freshman’s coming to replace big Al any special players to replace Sammy as well ?
We will be in d6,94 regular count plus 11 CB numbers, supposedly from what I have seen from other sources 97 and below will be d7, 98 to 143 will be d6
Maybe Nick's brother Blake that will be a freshman next year, looks like he could get taller than Nick, have to wait and see if gets a big growth spurt next season, don't see anything that's real special like Sammy coming up, just a bunch of good players, should have pretty deep bench next season,as looks now providing everyone returns and no injuries ,we will have 7 seniors and 6 juniors on the rooster
Last edited:
That’s a lot of people on one Rooster.
I'm sure a few of those juniors will be playing on the reserve team
what radio stiation