Global Warming

lotr10 said:
Natural climate change dominates while human caused climate change remains to be proven:

www.space.com

50 million tons of water vapor from Tonga's eruption could warm Earth for years

The explosive event increased atmospheric water vapor by 5%.
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If no one ever heard of climate change, this water vapor warming the Earth would probably be looked at favorably by most of the inhabitants of this little planet. If we had a worldwide thermostat, I would have voted to turn it up a little a long time ago.
 
Yappi said:
If no one ever heard of climate change, this water vapor warming the Earth would probably be looked at favorably by most of the inhabitants of this little planet. If we had a worldwide thermostat, I would have voted to turn it up a little a long time ago.
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Warmer and wetter is better for human civilization and life in general. Millions of square miles of potentially usable land is locked away in cold, unproductive frozen tundra.
 
Climate Change alarmists are despicable people. Check this piece of garbage trying to deflect from the Maui catastrophe that was 100% about human error and zero percent about Global Warming:

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Hawaii Democrat Governor Josh Green Says Climate Change Amplified the Cost of Human Error with Maui Wildfire Response (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Hawaii’s Democrat governor Josh Green appeared on CBS’s “Face the Nation” to discuss the Maui wildfires that ravaged Lahaina.
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Hawaii’s Democrat governor Josh Green appeared on CBS’s “Face the Nation” to discuss the Maui wildfires that ravaged Lahaina.

Governor Green told “Face the Nation” host Margaret Brennan that climate change amplified the cost of human error with the wildfire response.

“Are you saying that climate change amplified the cost of human error?” Margaret Brennan asked governor Green.

“Yes, it did,” Green said.
 
lotr10 said:
Climate Change alarmists are despicable people. Check this piece of garbage trying to deflect from the Maui catastrophe that was 100% about human error and zero percent about Global Warming:

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Hawaii Democrat Governor Josh Green Says Climate Change Amplified the Cost of Human Error with Maui Wildfire Response (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Hawaii’s Democrat governor Josh Green appeared on CBS’s “Face the Nation” to discuss the Maui wildfires that ravaged Lahaina.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com

Hawaii’s Democrat governor Josh Green appeared on CBS’s “Face the Nation” to discuss the Maui wildfires that ravaged Lahaina.

Governor Green told “Face the Nation” host Margaret Brennan that climate change amplified the cost of human error with the wildfire response.

“Are you saying that climate change amplified the cost of human error?” Margaret Brennan asked governor Green.

“Yes, it did,” Green said.
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Joe Biden agrees and others can't connect all the dots.
 

Shocking images show snowplows cleaning city streets after Summer storm brings 12 inches of ice and snow​

As our planet continues to overheat, due in large part to the burning of fossil fuels, that can somewhat paradoxically result in increased snowstorms. According to an article in Scientific American, “warmer air can hold more moisture than cold air. … This increased atmospheric moisture is helping to intensify the water cycle. … In addition to more total precipitation over a season and year, the additional moisture also fuels extreme events, like more intense hurricanes and flooding rains.”
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news.yahoo.com

Shocking images show snowplows cleaning city streets after summer storm brings 12 inches of ice and snow

Residents of the city of were stunned when they got 12 inches of snow in August.
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Now we get it, more heat leads to more rain, storms, snow, AND droughts.
 

We could be 16 years into a methane-fueled 'termination' event significant enough to end an ice age​

Methane emissions from tropical wetlands have been soaring since 2006 and accelerating at the same breakneck speed as when Earth's climate has flipped from a glacial to an interglacial period.

A dramatic spike in atmospheric methane over the past 16 years may be a sign that Earth's climate could flip within decades, scientists have warned.

Large amounts of methane wafting from tropical wetlands into Earth's atmosphere could trigger warming similar to the "termination" events that ended ice ages — replacing frosty expanses of tundra with tropical savanna, a new study finds. Researchers first detected a strange peak in methane emissions in 2006, but until now, it was unclear where the gas was leaking from and if it constituted a novel trend.
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www.livescience.com

We could be 16 years into a methane-fueled 'termination' event significant enough to end an ice age

Methane emissions from tropical wetlands have been soaring since 2006 and accelerating at the same breakneck speed as when Earth's climate has flipped from a glacial to an interglacial period.
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Yappi said:

We could be 16 years into a methane-fueled 'termination' event significant enough to end an ice age​


www.livescience.com

We could be 16 years into a methane-fueled 'termination' event significant enough to end an ice age

Methane emissions from tropical wetlands have been soaring since 2006 and accelerating at the same breakneck speed as when Earth's climate has flipped from a glacial to an interglacial period.
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A couple of points:

* First this demonstrates beyond doubt that there are RAPID and significant natural changes that can occur in the Earths climate.

"A termination is a major reorganization of the Earth's climate system," study lead author Euan Nisbet, a professor emeritus of Earth sciences at Royal Holloway, University of London, told Live Science. "These repeated changes have taken the world from ice ages into the sort of interglacial we have now."

Ice age terminations typically occur in three phases, which are recorded in ice cores going back 800,000 years. The initial phase is characterized by a gradual rise in methane and CO2, leading to global warming over a few thousand years. This is followed by a sharp increase in temperatures fueled by a burst of methane, leveling off in a third phase lasting several thousand years.

* Note the scare tactics they employ. This isn't a "natural" termination and we "don't know what will happen if it occurs outside an Ice Age". But are we actually outside an ice age or in the tail end of one?

In the past, terminations have flipped vast expanses of icy tundra in the Northern Hemisphere into tropical grasslands roamed by hippos, Nisbet said. There is no way to know what a termination could signify today, given that we are not in an ice age. "We're not saying we've got proof this is happening, but we're raising the question."

How do we know that this isn't simply the final NATURAL climate event that lifts us completely out of the last Ice Age? The evidence points to the fact that we're in the end stages of the last Ice Age. VAST regions of the Northern Hemisphere are still locked in an Ice Age resulting in their being bitterly cold frozen tundra. Today, the tundra climate of millions of square miles of the subarctic & arctic is a long way from being "tropical grasslands roamed by hippos". In fact here are some average January high/low temps (degrees Fahrenheit) from these regions:

Fairbanks: 0/-27
Churchill Manitoba: -7/-22
Yellowknife: -7/-21
Yakutsk: -29/-39

I bet the 311,000 people living in Yakutsk are real worried abut the coming tropical climate?
 
lotr10 said:
When are we going to acknowledge that wild fires have nothing to do with man made Global Warming and everything to do with man made arson:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1695041943862964543
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when we get stupid.

What initiates a fire doesn't initiate a wide spread fire. We can go all day on the causes of global weather change but to ignore its existence as you puppeted demogogs prefer for fear of your stock values is to ignore the need to address and adjust.

It is what it is. Even if only considering affects, not causes, it is a rather easily measurable phenomena. We prepare that it will continue on this trajectory or risk getting so deep we cannot recover. Then look at your stock values.

Regardless; as I said so many years ago when you were still butt clenching it didn't exist at all because your puppet master said it didn't, new technologies will be developed that will benefit us and the market and then hopefully be mature enough by time of actual need.

The world isn't your 60 minute fantasy movie in which the good guys battle unfathamable odds in acts I and II, then inthe final act the heros knock something over on a bench and discover the save. It takes many decades to develop and mature tech into something that can actually be applied. Something you'd understand if you'd ever left mom's basement and actually had to create or chose to defend this place. A reasonable common sense person wouldn't need to do all that. They'd recognize, you don't depend on the writers to write a nice end to the story. You create the story.
 
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eastisbest said:
when we get stupid.

What initiates a fire doesn't initiate a wide spread fire. We can go all day on the causes of global weather change but to ignore its existence as you puppeted demogogs prefer for fear of your stock values is to ignore the need to address and adjust.

It is what it is. Even if only considering affects, not causes, it is a rather easily measurable phenomena. We prepare that it will continue on this trajectory or risk getting so deep we cannot recover. Then look at your stock values.

Regardless; as I said so many years ago when you were still butt clenching it didn't exist at all because your puppet master said it didn't, new technologies will be developed that will benefit us and the market and then hopefully be mature enough by time of actual need.

The world isn't your 60 minute fantasy movie in which the good guys battle unfathamable odds in acts I and II, then inthe final act the heros knock something over on a bench and discover the save. It takes many decades to develop and mature tech into something that can actually be applied. Something you'd understand if you'd ever left mom's basement and actually had to create or chose to defend this place. A reasonable common sense person wouldn't need to do all that. They'd recognize, you don't depend on the writers to write a nice end to the story. You create the story.
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You do realize that how we respond to climate change is entirely dependent on correctly identifying its cause? If the changes we think we're seeing are natural then the only real solution is to optimize our ability to adapt as even you wouldn't be so stupid as to advocate large scale Geoengineering to manipulate a naturally changing climate.

At present the proponents of human caused global climate change have not demonstrated that the changes we're seeing are outside normal natural variation.

For your information climate change is NOT an easily measured phenomena. Modern tools that allow us to measure climate conditions precisely and globally have only been in widespread use for the last 50 years. This is to short a time to draw conclusions on what the climate is doing outside of its natural variability. This means we must rely on surrogate climate endpoints to reconstruct climate conditions more then 100 years ago. You might want to spend some time checking out how they do this and then get back to me with your level of confidence in their work.

I find it ironic that you accuse me of living inside a 60 minute fantasy movie while claiming that "new technologies will be developed that will benefit us and the market and then hopefully be mature enough by time of actual need." So what exactly are these new technologies supposed to do if the problem is natural rather then human caused climate change?

And please child, if anyone is living in mom's basement it's you. I mean for crying out loud you throw out the "for fear of your stock values" canard for why we aren't lining up to discard a proven energy producer like fossil fuels. But only someone living under a rock or in their moms basement thinks there are a whole lot of people with huge investments in individual Oil & Gas stocks. I hate to break it to you East but there's these new fangled investment tools called Mutual Funds and even better Exchange Traded Funds which means that almost no one is loaded down with just a couple of energy sector stocks. I think about 2% of my portfolio is in oil stocks.
 
www.creators.com

Antisemitism From the Left, by Betsy McCaughey

Jews are feeling increasingly afraid and unwelcome. Last week, girls on the basketball team of a Jewish private school in suburban Hartsdale, New York, were jabbed and hit with antisemitic slurs by players from Yonkers' Roosevelt High School.
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Excellent column. I think parents and most Americans are sick and tired of the alarmists/leftists propaganda.



"Hammering K-12 school children nonstop about the dangers of climate change in every class, even math, art and gym, is child abuse."
 
Qcity said:
www.creators.com

Antisemitism From the Left, by Betsy McCaughey

Jews are feeling increasingly afraid and unwelcome. Last week, girls on the basketball team of a Jewish private school in suburban Hartsdale, New York, were jabbed and hit with antisemitic slurs by players from Yonkers' Roosevelt High School.
www.creators.com

Excellent column. I think parents and most Americans are sick and tired of the alarmists/leftists propaganda.



"Hammering K-12 school children nonstop about the dangers of climate change in every class, even math, art and gym, is child abuse."
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Mental health issues in the young are rising exponentially. Thank a liberal.
 
Trying to get out in front of the hysteria and to save the idea of science as we know it:

clintel.org

World Climate Declaration There is no climate emergency

World Climate Declaration There is no climate emergency A global network of over 1400 scientists professionals prepared this urgent message.
clintel.org clintel.org

Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. In particular, scientists should emphasize that their modeling output is not the result of magic: computer models are human-made. What comes out is fully dependent on what theoreticians and programmers have put in: hypotheses, assumptions, relationships, parameterizations, stability constraints, etc. Unfortunately, in mainstream climate science most of this input is undeclared.

To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate discussion to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. We should free ourselves from the naïve belief in immature climate models. In future, climate research must give significantly more emphasis to empirical science.

There is no climate emergency​

A global network of over 1609 scientists and professionals has prepared this urgent message. Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their policy measures.

Natural as well as anthropogenic factors cause warming
The geological archive reveals that Earth’s climate has varied as long as the planet has existed, with natural cold and warm phases. The Little Ice Age ended as recently as 1850. Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming.

Warming is far slower than predicted
The world has warmed significantly less than predicted by IPCC on the basis of modeled anthropogenic forcing. The gap between the real world and the modeled world tells us that we are far from understanding climate change.

Climate policy relies on inadequate models
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as global policy tools. They blow up the effect of greenhouse gases such as CO2. In addition, they ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial.

CO2 is plant food, the basis of all life on Earth
CO2 is not a pollutant. It is essential to all life on Earth. Photosynthesis is a blessing. More CO2 is beneficial for nature, greening the Earth: additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global plant biomass. It is also good for agriculture, increasing the yields of crops worldwide.

Global warming has not increased natural disasters
There is no statistical evidence that global warming is intensifying hurricanes, floods, droughts and suchlike natural disasters, or making them more frequent. However, there is ample evidence that CO2-mitigation measures are as damaging as they are costly.

Climate policy must respect scientific and economic realities
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050. If better approaches emerge, and they certainly will, we have ample time to reflect and re-adapt. The aim of global policy should be ‘prosperity for all’ by providing reliable and affordable energy at all times. In a prosperous society men and women are well educated, birthrates are low and people care about their environment.
 
lotr10 said:
Trying to get out in front of the hysteria and to save the idea of science as we know it:

clintel.org

World Climate Declaration There is no climate emergency

World Climate Declaration There is no climate emergency A global network of over 1400 scientists professionals prepared this urgent message.
clintel.org clintel.org

Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. In particular, scientists should emphasize that their modeling output is not the result of magic: computer models are human-made. What comes out is fully dependent on what theoreticians and programmers have put in: hypotheses, assumptions, relationships, parameterizations, stability constraints, etc. Unfortunately, in mainstream climate science most of this input is undeclared.

To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today’s climate discussion to which climate models are central. Climate science has degenerated into a discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. We should free ourselves from the naïve belief in immature climate models. In future, climate research must give significantly more emphasis to empirical science.

There is no climate emergency​

A global network of over 1609 scientists and professionals has prepared this urgent message. Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their policy measures.

Natural as well as anthropogenic factors cause warming
The geological archive reveals that Earth’s climate has varied as long as the planet has existed, with natural cold and warm phases. The Little Ice Age ended as recently as 1850. Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming.

Warming is far slower than predicted
The world has warmed significantly less than predicted by IPCC on the basis of modeled anthropogenic forcing. The gap between the real world and the modeled world tells us that we are far from understanding climate change.

Climate policy relies on inadequate models
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as global policy tools. They blow up the effect of greenhouse gases such as CO2. In addition, they ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial.

CO2 is plant food, the basis of all life on Earth
CO2 is not a pollutant. It is essential to all life on Earth. Photosynthesis is a blessing. More CO2 is beneficial for nature, greening the Earth: additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global plant biomass. It is also good for agriculture, increasing the yields of crops worldwide.

Global warming has not increased natural disasters
There is no statistical evidence that global warming is intensifying hurricanes, floods, droughts and suchlike natural disasters, or making them more frequent. However, there is ample evidence that CO2-mitigation measures are as damaging as they are costly.

Climate policy must respect scientific and economic realities
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050. If better approaches emerge, and they certainly will, we have ample time to reflect and re-adapt. The aim of global policy should be ‘prosperity for all’ by providing reliable and affordable energy at all times. In a prosperous society men and women are well educated, birthrates are low and people care about their environment.
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Good stuff.
 
People who block public roads in protest are committing an act of violence against their fellow citizens. They are the scum of the earth. These kinds of confrontations are going to end in terrible violence and the blame will rest entirely on the protesters.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1695794212686450915

I have to ask were the hell are the police? How the hell can these people block a rode for this long with no sign of law enforcement? How long do you think pro life protesters would be allowed to block a public road leading to an abortion clinic?
 
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