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It looks like the curse of the Browns is still going strong. Watson to have season ending shoulder surgery. There is really nobody out there now and they will have to go with with PJ Walker and DTR. Season over. They did this to themselves with letting Dobbs go for really nothing in return and kept DTR who inflated his value by performing well against 2nd and 3rd team defenses in the preseason.
 
It looks like the curse of the Browns is still going strong. Watson to have season ending shoulder surgery. There is really nobody out there now and they will have to go with with PJ Walker and DTR. Season over. They did this to themselves with letting Dobbs go for really nothing in return and kept DTR who inflated his value by performing well against 2nd and 3rd team defenses in the preseason.
Mayfield sure is looking like a better option now.. Leave it to the Browns to F it up... Watson may be the most expensive mistake in NFL history.
 
This is disingenuous and you know it. Yes, there were people upset by moving in a different direction, but you also know that Stokes' repeated shots at the previous coaching staff is what inflamed the situation. It's done and over with now, but let's not get into revisionist history just because you didn't like Crabtree.

Stokes will be back at Coffman next year. He isn't leaving for another high school job. If the admin think it's tough dealing with him, they should have done their homework. Like I said last month, you don't get rid of a guy who is exactly who he says he is.
I like Crabtree a lot. Likes got nothing to do with it. Stokes is a better coach and has built a better program.
 
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Mayfield sure is looking like a better option now.. Leave it to the Browns to F it up... Watson may be the most expensive mistake in NFL history.
Yep. This organization makes very few good decisions. You would think they could even accidentally do more right. It's amazing really. Now they are stuck with Watson and cannot draft a franchise QB for years. Ownership making horrible decisions on personnel and coaches is the biggest problem although it looks like hiring Schwartz as the DC has worked out well.
 
This week used to be week 3 of the play-offs and is kind of a truth serum for many teams. If you have a top 6 seed you 'Should" advance in round one IMO. So it isn't some kind of big deal for the top handful of seeds. If you lose as a top5 or 6 seed, it's usually a stain on a good season. Winning the next two makes it a very good season for many. Some have more consistent success and expectations are higher, but most programs are pretty happy and pumped up to be in the final 8 .

The Springfield play-off pedigree the last 5-6 seasons is obvious and at this point is a measuring stick for folks. This isn't the best S-Field team of the last 5 years but it's still a very tough out obviously. This game serves as a truth serum type game for Coffman. This game will reveal the truth about them in terms of being able to compete with this type of speed and athleticism. Go against an experienced play-off staff. How do you match-up up front? Are you tough enough to go hard for 48 minutes and compete physically? Can you tackle in space and or get enough hats near the ball carrier to get him to the turf or limit big plays? Can you grind like you usually do shortening the game and make a few explosive plays to complement your clock churning process?

Springfield has an OSU commit Aaron Scott a lock down corner who they use on offense as well in a few ways. They have a lot more speed than Coffman has. Bay Bay Norman [ First team All name team} ran for 200 vs. Tangy including a 76-yard sprint and game ending dagger. Can the Rocks limit the big play? Tackle well? Control the ball long enough to shorten the game? The truth will be learned. It's like the good solid tough boxer rising up a bit wining a few go either way fights and gets the big fight with the fast slick experienced fighter and at some point, the fighter either has a champ's pedigree and class or is just a rough and tumble opponent who will get hit a bunch because the other fighter has more class speed and better footwork. The Rocks needless to say will have to be at their best here and may be get a few breaks and bounces. Not a great match-up. Tangy even with their big D-1 QB would have been better. Can the Rocks cover up some of their weaknesses by maximizing some of their strengths?

Talked with a Tangy guy and I saw some of the tape, the man said the big thing with Tangy was along with Springfield's big play ability and speed was Tangy was NOT at their best. Didn't take advantage of some things, and a tie game with a little more than half a quarter left, turned quickly. Overall, the special teams really let them down. Not only had a punt blocked in their territory but had a couple poor shorter punts as well. Adding to the specials misery was a KO that had tangy kids standing around watching it and Springfield guy came in pretty much unimpeded and covered it. Another short field? Disastrous. Ball game. Don't think it was conditioning as has bene bandied around on the victors thread.

Coffman was on par with Springfield athletically in the last meeting in the regional final is 2019 and the Rocks should have won the game but didn't execute and had a little bad luck in the red zone, outgaining the Cats, more yards per play, and more red zone trips but couldn't score, missed short FG and missed a few 4th downs by a little and lost. They weren't out athleted if you will and weren't too slow, They played great defense and were able to defend their speed very well. I think someone asked how long it's been since they went to a regional final as if it was ages ago? No they went back-to-back years WAAAYYYY back 2018 and 2019 and matched up well athletically with Springfield in 2020 as well but the lost to less athletic Liberty who didn't match -up well with Springfield and off of the monster Coffman win that went down to the last plays had little left. This Coffman club is more on that level speed wise with Liberty that year and last year where the 5-5 Patriots went on a 3 game run before the truth caught up with them and they got run out by Springfield. The truth will be found out Friday.

On the record for the last couple years since Stokes got to Coffman Road that I really like the hire and like his energy, philosophy and think he is a excellent coach in pursuit of excellence. Anyone who knows what's up realizes Stokes hasn't had the same level of talent that Crabtree had in many years. He got a pass for 4-8 and many blowout losses in 2021 from most in the know. Nice improvement last year as he molded the program in his image, but a disappointing ending losing to an 11 seed at home as a 17-point favorite to Marysville who had been blown out by other teams a few times. Year one saw an upset of Wayne in round one as a 13 seed on a Hail Mary last play heave. Wayne was really banged up but still a great win. Got eviscerated the next week up in Findlay. Never in the game. Disappointing but a TON of starters back and also a couple transfers entered the building including a D-1 Illinois recruit. So, I know the emotion of making a regional final gets some people excited enough to declare this is the best coach Dublin has ever seen. yes of course it isn't about winning. it's about culture built. Point taken.

But here's the bottom line. I love the hire and think Stokes is a future HS hall of fame coach if he goes on at this level. Hope he is the Rocks coach long term [Don't think so unfortunately} a no doubt HOF guy in my mind. I think he did great things at Minster, when he left, they were down a bit his last year adn the next year. He left for a reason as most coaches do. Challenge of a bigger division and his program may have run it's course for a bit. Say Stokes is a better coach all you want than Crabtree but don't dare demean his 20 years of consistent success in the process. Or say the program is at its best right now in the last 25 years. It's not. A really nice run and I'm excited for the kids and the opportunity that awaits but a little perspective is needed. . Injuries aside, and they affected some games [Most injured Rocks team I can remember} they had a lot of starters back from a 7-win regular season team {two transfer starting level players only one made a bigger impact a power 5 guy John at DL} and ended 7-3 again with two games that were razor close wins. All three losses were not in much doubt. Beat a 5-5 sturdy scrappy Fairmont team. Beat a 4-7 Liberty team that was really better than that overall but had a tougher schedule than anyone in CO. and then beat a very solid Berlin team who was 11-1 coming in. BUT were without their star QB. Rocks have played so well executed so well , made plays when they have had to, coaching and special teams have been really on point and of course have played so hard which is a given with this tough bunch. I really have enjoyed watching them play.

Lastly this is the time for coaches of most programs at this stage of the proceedings to utter phrases like, "Fellas, there are only 8 D-1 teams in Ohio that are preparing for their 14th ballgame this year and the Coffman Rocks are one of those teams. Be proud of all the hard work you've done and how you've played, this is a special place you've earned the right to be in, but we've got another ballgame to prepare for and go win .
 
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This week used to be week 3 of the play-offs and is kind of a truth serum for many teams. If you have a top 6 seed you 'Should" advance in round one IMO. So it isn't some kind of big deal for the top handful of seeds. If you lose as a top5 or 6 seed, it's usually a stain on a good season. Winning the next two makes it a very good season for many. Some have more consistent success and expectations are higher, but most programs are pretty happy and pumped up to be in the final 8 .

The Springfield play-off pedigree the last 5-6 seasons is obvious and at this point is a measuring stick for folks. This isn't the best S-Field team of the last 5 years but it's still a very tough out obviously. This game serves as a truth serum type game for Coffman. This game will reveal the truth about them in terms of being able to compete with this type of speed and athleticism. Go against an experienced play-off staff. How do you match-up up front? Are you tough enough to go hard for 48 minutes and compete physically? Can you tackle in space and or get enough hats near the ball carrier to get him to the turf or limit big plays? Can you grind like you usually do shortening the game and make a few explosive plays to complement your clock churning process?

Springfield has an OSU commit Aaron Scott a lock down corner who they use on offense as well in a few ways. They have a lot more speed than Coffman has. Bay Bay Norman [ First team All name team} ran for 200 vs. Tangy including a 76-yard sprint and game ending dagger. Can the Rocks limit the big play? Tackle well? Control the ball long enough to shorten the game? The truth will be learned. It's like the good solid tough boxer rising up a bit wining a few go either way fights and gets the big fight with the fast slick experienced fighter and at some point, the fighter either has a champ's pedigree and class or is just a rough and tumble opponent who will get hit a bunch because the other fighter has more class speed and better footwork. The Rocks needless to say will have to be at their best here and may be get a few breaks and bounces. Not a great match-up. Tangy even with their big D-1 QB would have been better. Can the Rocks cover up some of their weaknesses by maximizing some of their strengths?

Talked with a Tangy guy and I saw some of the tape, the man said the big thing with Tangy was along with Springfield's big play ability and speed was Tangy was NOT at their best. Didn't take advantage of some things, and a tie game with a little more than half a quarter left, turned quickly. Overall, the special teams really let them down. Not only had a punt blocked in their territory but had a couple poor shorter punts as well. Adding to the specials misery was a KO that had tangy kids standing around watching it and Springfield guy came in pretty much unimpeded and covered it. Another short field? Disastrous. Ball game. Don't think it was conditioning as has bene bandied around on the victors thread.

Coffman was on par with Springfield athletically in the last meeting in the regional final is 2019 and the Rocks should have won the game but didn't execute and had a little bad luck in the red zone, outgaining the Cats, more yards per play, and more red zone trips but couldn't score, missed short FG and missed a few 4th downs by a little and lost. They weren't out athleted if you will and weren't too slow, They played great defense and were able to defend their speed very well. I think someone asked how long it's been since they went to a regional final as if it was ages ago? No they went back-to-back years WAAAYYYY back 2018 and 2019 and matched up well athletically with Springfield in 2020 as well but the lost to less athletic Liberty who didn't match -up well with Springfield and off of the monster Coffman win that went down to the last plays had little left. This Coffman club is more on that level speed wise with Liberty that year and last year where the 5-5 Patriots went on a 3 game run before the truth caught up with them and they got run out by Springfield. The truth will be found out Friday.

On the record for the last couple years since Stokes got to Coffman Road that I really like the hire and like his energy, philosophy and think he is a excellent coach in pursuit of excellence. Anyone who knows what's up realizes Stokes hasn't had the same level of talent that Crabtree had in many years. He got a pass for 4-8 and many blowout losses in 2021 from most in the know. Nice improvement last year as he molded the program in his image, but a disappointing ending losing to an 11 seed at home as a 17-point favorite to Marysville who had been blown out by other teams a few times. Year one saw an upset of Wayne in round one as a 13 seed on a Hail Mary last play heave. Wayne was really banged up but still a great win. Got eviscerated the next week up in Findlay. Never in the game. Disappointing but a TON of starters back and also a couple transfers entered the building including a D-1 Illinois recruit. So, I know the emotion of making a regional final gets some people excited enough to declare this is the best coach Dublin has ever seen. yes of course it isn't about winning. it's about culture built. Point taken.

But here's the bottom line. I love the hire and think Stokes is a future HS hall of fame coach if he goes on at this level. Hope he is the Rocks coach long term [Don't think so unfortunately} a no doubt HOF guy in my mind. I think he did great things at Minster, when he left, they were down a bit his last year adn the next year. He left for a reason as most coaches do. Challenge of a bigger division and his program may have run it's course for a bit. Say Stokes is a better coach all you want than Crabtree but don't dare demean his 20 years of consistent success in the process. Or say the program is at its best right now in the last 25 years. It's not. A really nice run and I'm excited for the kids and the opportunity that awaits but a little perspective is needed. . Injuries aside, and they affected some games [Most injured Rocks team I can remember} they had a lot of starters back from a 7-win regular season team {two transfer starting level players only one made a bigger impact a power 5 guy John at DL} and ended 7-3 again with two games that were razor close wins. All three losses were not in much doubt. Beat a 5-5 sturdy scrappy Fairmont team. Beat a 4-7 Liberty team that was really better than that overall but had a tougher schedule than anyone in CO. and then beat a very solid Berlin team who was 11-1 coming in. BUT were without their star QB. Rocks have played so well executed so well , made plays when they have had to, coaching and special teams have been really on point and of course have played so hard which is a given with this tough bunch. I really have enjoyed watching them play.

Lastly this is the time for coaches of most programs at this stage of the proceedings to utter phrases like, "Fellas, there are only 8 D-1 teams in Ohio that are preparing for their 14th ballgame this year and the Coffman Rocks are one of those teams. Be proud of all the hard work you've done and how you've played, this is a special place you've earned the right to be in, but we've got another ballgame to prepare for and go win .
just wondering since Stokes has been there, what type of injuries are happening to the players? wondering if the Rocks have had knee injuries?
 
The players and parents absolutely love Stokes. He’s the best coach I’ve ever seen in Dublin and I go way back.
The “last 20 years were the greatest ever” crowd don’t like him. But IMO they were conditioned to not like or appreciate anyone other than Crabby

Hes hard to work with for admin. That’s probably a given.


“The best coach I’ve ever seen in Dublin” - that’s a big compliment. Dublin has had Todd Alles, Bill Conley and Mark Crabtree to name a few. I believe you stated ‘It’s not about the wins & losses, it’s about the development of the young men on the team.’
 
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“The best coach I’ve ever seen in Dublin” - that’s a big compliment. Dublin has had Todd Alles, Bill Conley and Mark Crabtree to name a few. I believe you stated ‘It’s not about the wins & losses, it’s about the development of the young men on the team.’
Don't even bother with this guy. Not worth it. Contradictory views for 3 years and basically just a trollHOLE}
 
Don't even bother with this guy. Not worth it. Contradictory views for 3 years and basically just a trollHOLE}

I don’t understand the pettiness. The program should always come first. Yes the head coach is the face of the program but disparaging the past does no good long term for the program.
 
Week 14 cont.

Bradley - 1 UA


UA is an interesting team to study. Much to unpack where they are concerned. Defense the last 6 weeks and current form shows [Gahanna scored 7 on a scoop and score} them to be stingier than Hetty Green [4 points a game given up {but they do heat their oatmeal lol} but offensively they are also frugal to step into the end zone as if there is a cover charge to do so.

Six weeks ago, they scored 10 vs Orange shutting them out as well in a great performance. Rival Coffman was next, and they won 21-3 but as good as their defense was that night on Coffman Road, their offense was not exactly dynamic. They scored on their opening drive which was impressive. They then blocked a punt to set themselves up inside the Rocks 10. Another score. The last score was a pick 6 by the vaunted defense. MEH offense. Not that impressive. Their next game vs. their other rival across the Scioto River Davidson saw them net 10 points in another dominant defensive performance shutting the Cats out.

Let's throw out the 46 vs. YOTW because well they are YOTW, and I love the folks there but when it comes to football ? They are YOTW. PC they went to OT and scored 17 but one was kind of a gift truth be told. UA powered into the EZ to end the game after holding the Tigers on downs inside the 5 in OT. 4 FG's by a Freshman kicker was enough to turn back the top ranked team in CO Gahanna in a 12-7 win where the defense gave up the null set. Remember very well two conversations with UA coaches who told me their defense could be special. It has progressed to that point no doubt.


Looking at Bradley and I will also take out their walk over Nerk as I did UA's YOTW walkover. Bradley scored 48 total against Liberty and Orange before scuffling around vs. Coffman who bled the clock like a severed artery. 27 vs West North but gave up 22 in a closer than expected grind. PN shut out wasn't seen coming by well everyone tbh. Combo of great effort and game plan with the Jags and PN play-off underachievement? The disparity and margin in the penalty yards was McGovern Nixon 72 wide with PN playing the McGovern role. Not making excuses for PN but damn that was massive.

Taking out the Nerk laugher, they have scored 22 a game in their last 5. The defense culminating with their seminal defensive performance in Jags football history shutting out the consensus # 2 team in Co and some thought was the best [Oops that was me among some others} has surrendered 11 a game. 24-22 Jags win vs the Bears. Most think there will be less points scored and why not? Both defenses took on the best that the East Side of Columbus could offer and held them without an offensive TD. [Holy Crap what were the odds on that ?}

Trust me if the Rocks weren't still playing this is the one that I would be going to [rain? ok still go} . Watching a well-coached defense operate at a high level with extreme discipline is something that can bring chills to ardent football fans, and it has for me over the years. Guys stay home, gap integrity, great fundamentals in pass coverage. Many hats to the ball . Relentless pressure. Belt buckle no juke integrity lol. Wrapping up consistently. Help, holding on waiting for getting off blocks and fighting to get out of them with strength and guile. Lining up right and finishing your assignment most of the time. Consistently setting the edge and if you can't or don't help arriving with speed and certainty. Back and forth it goes. Consensus is a low scoring slog. I think the offensive coaches relish this type of preparation and will score more than their East Side previous opponents did even in the rain.

McLellan pounds the rock in the mild negative elements Cox with one timely shot strike, defense gets a turnover to set up easier points.? [Corna?} Bradley more talented on offense but I'll grab Buttermore a Stokes like coach or is it the younger Stokes kind of emulating Buttermore? Yeah that's it . thats the ticket. Be happy for Bradley if they get their initial Regional title [First Regional appearance as well] but UA is where I would place my well earned dough getting a point .

UA 20 Bradley 16
 
This week used to be week 3 of the play-offs and is kind of a truth serum for many teams. If you have a top 6 seed you 'Should" advance in round one IMO. So it isn't some kind of big deal for the top handful of seeds. If you lose as a top5 or 6 seed, it's usually a stain on a good season. Winning the next two makes it a very good season for many. Some have more consistent success and expectations are higher, but most programs are pretty happy and pumped up to be in the final 8 .

The Springfield play-off pedigree the last 5-6 seasons is obvious and at this point is a measuring stick for folks. This isn't the best S-Field team of the last 5 years but it's still a very tough out obviously. This game serves as a truth serum type game for Coffman. This game will reveal the truth about them in terms of being able to compete with this type of speed and athleticism. Go against an experienced play-off staff. How do you match-up up front? Are you tough enough to go hard for 48 minutes and compete physically? Can you tackle in space and or get enough hats near the ball carrier to get him to the turf or limit big plays? Can you grind like you usually do shortening the game and make a few explosive plays to complement your clock churning process?

Springfield has an OSU commit Aaron Scott a lock down corner who they use on offense as well in a few ways. They have a lot more speed than Coffman has. Bay Bay Norman [ First team All name team} ran for 200 vs. Tangy including a 76-yard sprint and game ending dagger. Can the Rocks limit the big play? Tackle well? Control the ball long enough to shorten the game? The truth will be learned. It's like the good solid tough boxer rising up a bit wining a few go either way fights and gets the big fight with the fast slick experienced fighter and at some point, the fighter either has a champ's pedigree and class or is just a rough and tumble opponent who will get hit a bunch because the other fighter has more class speed and better footwork. The Rocks needless to say will have to be at their best here and may be get a few breaks and bounces. Not a great match-up. Tangy even with their big D-1 QB would have been better. Can the Rocks cover up some of their weaknesses by maximizing some of their strengths?

Talked with a Tangy guy and I saw some of the tape, the man said the big thing with Tangy was along with Springfield's big play ability and speed was Tangy was NOT at their best. Didn't take advantage of some things, and a tie game with a little more than half a quarter left, turned quickly. Overall, the special teams really let them down. Not only had a punt blocked in their territory but had a couple poor shorter punts as well. Adding to the specials misery was a KO that had tangy kids standing around watching it and Springfield guy came in pretty much unimpeded and covered it. Another short field? Disastrous. Ball game. Don't think it was conditioning as has bene bandied around on the victors thread.

Coffman was on par with Springfield athletically in the last meeting in the regional final is 2019 and the Rocks should have won the game but didn't execute and had a little bad luck in the red zone, outgaining the Cats, more yards per play, and more red zone trips but couldn't score, missed short FG and missed a few 4th downs by a little and lost. They weren't out athleted if you will and weren't too slow, They played great defense and were able to defend their speed very well. I think someone asked how long it's been since they went to a regional final as if it was ages ago? No they went back-to-back years WAAAYYYY back 2018 and 2019 and matched up well athletically with Springfield in 2020 as well but the lost to less athletic Liberty who didn't match -up well with Springfield and off of the monster Coffman win that went down to the last plays had little left. This Coffman club is more on that level speed wise with Liberty that year and last year where the 5-5 Patriots went on a 3 game run before the truth caught up with them and they got run out by Springfield. The truth will be found out Friday.

On the record for the last couple years since Stokes got to Coffman Road that I really like the hire and like his energy, philosophy and think he is a excellent coach in pursuit of excellence. Anyone who knows what's up realizes Stokes hasn't had the same level of talent that Crabtree had in many years. He got a pass for 4-8 and many blowout losses in 2021 from most in the know. Nice improvement last year as he molded the program in his image, but a disappointing ending losing to an 11 seed at home as a 17-point favorite to Marysville who had been blown out by other teams a few times. Year one saw an upset of Wayne in round one as a 13 seed on a Hail Mary last play heave. Wayne was really banged up but still a great win. Got eviscerated the next week up in Findlay. Never in the game. Disappointing but a TON of starters back and also a couple transfers entered the building including a D-1 Illinois recruit. So, I know the emotion of making a regional final gets some people excited enough to declare this is the best coach Dublin has ever seen. yes of course it isn't about winning. it's about culture built. Point taken.

But here's the bottom line. I love the hire and think Stokes is a future HS hall of fame coach if he goes on at this level. Hope he is the Rocks coach long term [Don't think so unfortunately} a no doubt HOF guy in my mind. I think he did great things at Minster, when he left, they were down a bit his last year adn the next year. He left for a reason as most coaches do. Challenge of a bigger division and his program may have run it's course for a bit. Say Stokes is a better coach all you want than Crabtree but don't dare demean his 20 years of consistent success in the process. Or say the program is at its best right now in the last 25 years. It's not. A really nice run and I'm excited for the kids and the opportunity that awaits but a little perspective is needed. . Injuries aside, and they affected some games [Most injured Rocks team I can remember} they had a lot of starters back from a 7-win regular season team {two transfer starting level players only one made a bigger impact a power 5 guy John at DL} and ended 7-3 again with two games that were razor close wins. All three losses were not in much doubt. Beat a 5-5 sturdy scrappy Fairmont team. Beat a 4-7 Liberty team that was really better than that overall but had a tougher schedule than anyone in CO. and then beat a very solid Berlin team who was 11-1 coming in. BUT were without their star QB. Rocks have played so well executed so well , made plays when they have had to, coaching and special teams have been really on point and of course have played so hard which is a given with this tough bunch. I really have enjoyed watching them play.

Lastly this is the time for coaches of most programs at this stage of the proceedings to utter phrases like, "Fellas, there are only 8 D-1 teams in Ohio that are preparing for their 14th ballgame this year and the Coffman Rocks are one of those teams. Be proud of all the hard work you've done and how you've played, this is a special place you've earned the right to be in, but we've got another ballgame to prepare for and go win .
Good Stuff Harry. What do you think the Rocks key to victory is Friday night?
 
Week 14 cont.

Bradley - 1 UA


UA is an interesting team to study. Much to unpack where they are concerned. Defense the last 6 weeks and current form shows [Gahanna scored 7 on a scoop and score} them to be stingier than Hetty Green [4 points a game given up {but they do heat their oatmeal lol} but offensively they are also frugal to step into the end zone as if there is a cover charge to do so.

Six weeks ago, they scored 10 vs Orange shutting them out as well in a great performance. Rival Coffman was next, and they won 21-3 but as good as their defense was that night on Coffman Road, their offense was not exactly dynamic. They scored on their opening drive which was impressive. They then blocked a punt to set themselves up inside the Rocks 10. Another score. The last score was a pick 6 by the vaunted defense. MEH offense. Not that impressive. Their next game vs. their other rival across the Scioto River Davidson saw them net 10 points in another dominant defensive performance shutting the Cats out.

Let's throw out the 46 vs. YOTW because well they are YOTW, and I love the folks there but when it comes to football ? They are YOTW. PC they went to OT and scored 17 but one was kind of a gift truth be told. UA powered into the EZ to end the game after holding the Tigers on downs inside the 5 in OT. 4 FG's by a Freshman kicker was enough to turn back the top ranked team in CO Gahanna in a 12-7 win where the defense gave up the null set. Remember very well two conversations with UA coaches who told me their defense could be special. It has progressed to that point no doubt.


Looking at Bradley and I will also take out their walk over Nerk as I did UA's YOTW walkover. Bradley scored 48 total against Liberty and Orange before scuffling around vs. Coffman who bled the clock like a severed artery. 27 vs West North but gave up 22 in a closer than expected grind. PN shut out wasn't seen coming by well everyone tbh. Combo of great effort and game plan with the Jags and PN play-off underachievement? The disparity and margin in the penalty yards was McGovern Nixon 72 wide with PN playing the McGovern role. Not making excuses for PN but damn that was massive.

Taking out the Nerk laugher, they have scored 22 a game in their last 5. The defense culminating with their seminal defensive performance in Jags football history shutting out the consensus # 2 team in Co and some thought was the best [Oops that was me among some others} has surrendered 11 a game. 24-22 Jags win vs the Bears. Most think there will be less points scored and why not? Both defenses took on the best that the East Side of Columbus could offer and held them without an offensive TD. [Holy Crap what were the odds on that ?}

Trust me if the Rocks weren't still playing this is the one that I would be going to [rain? ok still go} . Watching a well-coached defense operate at a high level with extreme discipline is something that can bring chills to ardent football fans, and it has for me over the years. Guys stay home, gap integrity, great fundamentals in pass coverage. Many hats to the ball . Relentless pressure. Belt buckle no juke integrity lol. Wrapping up consistently. Help, holding on waiting for getting off blocks and fighting to get out of them with strength and guile. Lining up right and finishing your assignment most of the time. Consistently setting the edge and if you can't or don't help arriving with speed and certainty. Back and forth it goes. Consensus is a low scoring slog. I think the offensive coaches relish this type of preparation and will score more than their East Side previous opponents did even in the rain.

McLellan pounds the rock in the mild negative elements Cox with one timely shot strike, defense gets a turnover to set up easier points.? [Corna?} Bradley more talented on offense but I'll grab Buttermore a Stokes like coach or is it the younger Stokes kind of emulating Buttermore? Yeah that's it . thats the ticket. Be happy for Bradley if they get their initial Regional title [First Regional appearance as well] but UA is where I would place my well earned dough getting a point .

UA 20 Bradley 16
I am Liking your pick in this one Harry!
 
“The best coach I’ve ever seen in Dublin” - that’s a big compliment. Dublin has had Todd Alles, Bill Conley and Mark Crabtree to name a few. I believe you stated ‘It’s not about the wins & losses, it’s about the development of the young men on the team.’
Have any of Stokes predecessors had the same success as quickly with the same level of talent Stokes inherited?
 
Have any of Stokes predecessors had the same success as quickly with the same level of talent Stokes inherited?

Just my opinion but I think Crabtree had better teams than this years Coffman team. Part of this years playoff success is because of Region 2 being down.

Alles & Conley coached a completely different ‘Dublin’ than what it is today. Conley went on to coach at Ohio State so one could make the argument he was the most successful.
 
Just my opinion but I think Crabtree had better teams than this years Coffman team. Part of this years playoff success is because of Region 2 being down.

Alles & Conley coached a completely different ‘Dublin’ than what it is today. Conley went on to coach at Ohio State so one could make the argument he was the most successful.
I hear where you are coming from and do not disagree, but I would argue Crabtree had more talent to work with then Stokes. As for Conley certainly the best individual career path but best Dublin Coffman coach? I also agree R2 is down but you can only beat who they put in front of ya. Rocks should be in this one and certainly have a chance to advance. What more can you ask for.
 
Just my opinion but I think Crabtree had better teams than this years Coffman team. Part of this years playoff success is because of Region 2 being down.

Alles & Conley coached a completely different ‘Dublin’ than what it is today. Conley went on to coach at Ohio State so one could make the argument he was the most successful.
I really liked the Dealer and no one really talks about him. The job he did in ‘91 was really good.
conley changed the entire image of the program. Under him the school went from Shamrocks to Rocks.
 
Just my opinion but I think Crabtree had better teams than this years Coffman team. Part of this years playoff success is because of Region 2 being down.

Alles & Conley coached a completely different ‘Dublin’ than what it is today. Conley went on to coach at Ohio State so one could make the argument he was the most successful.
Interesting that you bring up Coach Alles. He’s a frequent visitor to Rocks practice. And he will be very honest about the job that stokes has done with this team.

And he knows you well enough, he would tell you the difference between the culture that Stokes has created 😉
 
Nice article, Stokes is very good at building a culture and having the kids buy in to what he demands. Great motivator. Alot of starters back and the expectations were at least the same record in the reg. season, and they did that [barely as two were razor close} and the Rocks have played their cleanest games the last two weeks.[Fairmont and Bradley in week 10 were pretty clean as well and beating Bradley and holding them to 7 was and awesome effort} The Rocks three losses were no doubters for the most part and Injuries were a factor. It's like turnovers, sometimes you get unlucky with injuries and turnovers can be random. When the Rocks don't lose the TO battle, they take care of business like well coached teams tend to do. and win.

The margin for error as Stokes has alluded to is minimal which makes the level they have executed at in the play-offs even more impressive. Crabtree's culture was different but when he had as many starters back as this year's team did his teams improved by a couple wins and point differential was a big jump. The kids got better as well as they do now. This year's team is basically similar to last year's but without the upset in round one that happened last year and they have done a great job the last two weeks. Making the Regional final with a point differential of only + 54 in 13 games is very impressive. That is a very small margin for error. This Rocks team has 2 D-1 players. Not all of the Rocks teams pre- Stokes were loaded with big recruits either and some years had only a couple potential D-1 kids. The speed deficit is real. It results in less big explosive long plays, but last week they had a few that really were HUGE. Getting them vs. Springfield is a bigger challenge.

As much as I am rooting for the Rocks to bag the regional final , I will have to say Springfield is the likely winner due to big play capability and footspeed that there won't be enough of a substitute for. Comparative scores vs common opponents favors the Rocks ironically despite being 8 point dogs tomorrow. I don't think the coaches of Springfield are overlooking the Rocks, but there is a bit of a look ahead to Moe feel from some in the Springfield camp and sometimes that trickles down to the players. Have seen this dynamic happen all the many years as a player and as an observer over the years. Big hype for a potential match-up in a tournament play-off setting and one or even both team gets dumped. Gahanna Pick North was the big hype after they played in the reg season and they didn't score an offensive TD between them. Ouch. A part of the Springfield psyche has to be that this Rocks team is akin to last year's Liberty team or Liberty in 2020 when the Patriots ousted the Rocks in a 48-minute battle 18-15 with the Rocks driving for a winning TD fumbled an exchange at the 13-yard line. Springfield kids are confident, and they have talent. Rocks have to be perfectly aligned and can't get caught flat footed, get juked easily and get as many guys to the ball as possible. Huge challenge.

Springfield - 8 Coffman


Hoping for magic and a Rocks win, , this isn't as loaded an S-Field team that they have had in the past, they have lost to Fairmont and Centerville [And beat them} who the Rocks beat but just think the speed factor is a tad too big. Rocks hopefully bring their best and are at their best because that is what is required,, don't have to be prefect but getting close to it execution , blocking and tackling wise will help. Springfield Moe fans talking smack already and those two are the favorites for a reason Friday but Rocks LW would be awesome

Springfield 24 Coffman 13
 
Interesting that you bring up Coach Alles. He’s a frequent visitor to Rocks practice. And he will be very honest about the job that stokes has done with this team.

And he knows you well enough, he would tell you the difference between the culture that Stokes has created 😉

From what I was told/heard Alles was a good guy. The biggest difference I saw in Dublin from Alles to Conley was enrollment. When Alles left Dublin was probably graduating 175 a class. By the time Conley left Dublin, they were graduating 350+? Was Dublin better/tougher, yes but they be should be if they have twice as many kids to choose from.

The 1991 Dublin team was unique. That was their first year in the OCC and they went 10-1 losing to Brookhaven 20-13 in the playoffs. The year before Dublin went 4-6 in the old CBL. Why the sudden improvement vs tougher & bigger competition…..the 91 Dublin team played with an edge that no Shamrock team has probably ever played with before or after. That 91 team played to prove they belonged because no one believed they did after coming from the small CBL. I believe Marysville went to the OCC in 1991 as well and went 9-1. Same thing, they played with an edge to prove they belonged.

As you know AHM those Dublin teams from the 1980’s/90’s lost 7 of their last 8 games vs West Jefferson. Every game was tough and Dublin seem to have about 5-10 more kids on the roster than the year before. In 1990 I believe Dublin had about 80 kids dressed. WJ may not have always been the most talented but that’s not always the deciding factor.

Maybe this edge is what Dublin Coffman feels/believes/hopes Stokes can bring the current Shamrock teams. Time will tell.
 
Yes I think Springfield is a more likely winner in this match-up for the reasons mentioned, but I think we are being a bit over the top with the Rocks run which has been really good certainly and the coaching staff has done a great job no doubt ., BUT this notion that it's the miracle on Coffman road with 15 starters back if you include the two transfers two D-1 players and some other good tough football player with experience , that Stokes and staff had a version of the Bad News Bears with no ability kids who couldn't tie their own shoes standing in front of them when they greeted them on the first day of camp. 15 starters from a 7-3 team with a small handful of comfortable wins isn't the rags to riches story that I think some are trying to make it out to be. As if it has been a magic act. All the positive things and truths I stated above I believe along with Stokes being a excellent coach of course, BUT please stop with the silly, it's a pre-Thanksgiving miracle situation as if no coaching staff has ever pulled something like this off before [ again 15 starters back, 2 D-1 players and some good tough football players with varsity experience}. Let's give the kids who aren't awful athletes and poor players some credit here and stop calling it a miracle and a coaching magic act. It's not. The tone from some isas if they were 2-8 last year getting blown out and had little starters back and now have beaten a couple undefeated teams in the play-offs. Some said the team was bad pre-season and even with a ton of starters BACK had nothing. I wasn't one of them. Thought 7-3 was the floor. Depended on the draw as ton how far they went in the post season the draw has been good the team has performed really well, and the coaching staff has been outstanding as have the kids. They were never a no hope team this year nor a juggernaut. They are what they are, and they do what they do and they have played up to their potential at the right time of the year the last month and the staff and kids deserve a ton of credit and fully deserve to be playing still GO ROCKS
From what I was told/heard Alles was a good guy. The biggest difference I saw in Dublin from Alles to Conley was enrollment. When Alles left Dublin was probably graduating 175 a class. By the time Conley left Dublin, they were graduating 350+? Was Dublin better/tougher, yes but they be should be if they have twice as many kids to choose from.

The 1991 Dublin team was unique. That was their first year in the OCC and they went 10-1 losing to Brookhaven 20-13 in the playoffs. The year before Dublin went 4-6 in the old CBL. Why the sudden improvement vs tougher & bigger competition…..the 91 Dublin team played with an edge that no Shamrock team has probably ever played with before or after. That 91 team played to prove they belonged because no one believed they did after coming from the small CBL. I believe Marysville went to the OCC in 1991 as well and went 9-1. Same thing, they played with an edge to prove they belonged.

As you know AHM those Dublin teams from the 1980’s/90’s lost 7 of their last 8 games vs West Jefferson. Every game was tough and Dublin seem to have about 5-10 more kids on the roster each year. WJ may not have always been the most talented but that’s not always the deciding factor.

Maybe this edge is what Dublin Coffman feels/believes/hopes Stokes can bring the current Shamrock teams. Time will tell.
Hey WJOSU West Jeff the dog too this week , they have a chance?
 
From what I was told/heard Alles was a good guy. The biggest difference I saw in Dublin from Alles to Conley was enrollment. When Alles left Dublin was probably graduating 175 a class. By the time Conley left Dublin, they were graduating 350+? Was Dublin better/tougher, yes but they be should be if they have twice as many kids to choose from.

The 1991 Dublin team was unique. That was their first year in the OCC and they went 10-1 losing to Brookhaven 20-13 in the playoffs. The year before Dublin went 4-6 in the old CBL. Why the sudden improvement vs tougher & bigger competition…..the 91 Dublin team played with an edge that no Shamrock team has probably ever played with before or after. That 91 team played to prove they belonged because no one believed they did after coming from the small CBL. I believe Marysville went to the OCC in 1991 as well and went 9-1. Same thing, they played with an edge to prove they belonged.

As you know AHM those Dublin teams from the 1980’s/90’s lost 7 of their last 8 games vs West Jefferson. Every game was tough and Dublin seem to have about 5-10 more kids on the roster than the year before. In 1990 I believe Dublin had about 80 kids dressed. WJ may not have always been the most talented but that’s not always the deciding factor.

Maybe this edge is what Dublin Coffman feels/believes/hopes Stokes can bring the current Shamrock teams. Time will tell.
There is no question that Stokes has brought a different tougher culture. That's not to say there weren't Rocks teams that had a high toughness quotient to them. There were a few for sure. BUT it wasn't emphasized as a value like it is now. Football is a tough sometimes brutal sport, the tougher team wins a lot of the time no question. Stokes like to throw it and be balanced so it's not a toughness scheme wise but a mental and physical toughness from a day in and day out training mindset. Relentless is apt lol. You guys pre-date my Dublin experience, I enjoy hearing of that past where the community went from as a small rural one to what it became and is still becoming and from a football standpoint..
 
Yes I think Springfield is a more likely winner in this match-up for the reasons mentioned, but I think we are being a bit over the top with the Rocks run which has been really good certainly and the coaching staff has done a great job no doubt ., BUT this notion that it's the miracle on Coffman road with 15 starters back if you include the two transfers two D-1 players and some other good tough football player with experience , that Stokes and staff had a version of the Bad News Bears with no ability kids who couldn't tie their own shoes standing in front of them when they greeted them on the first day of camp. 15 starters from a 7-3 team with a small handful of comfortable wins isn't the rags to riches story that I think some are trying to make it out to be. As if it has been a magic act. All the positive things and truths I stated above I believe along with Stokes being a excellent coach of course, BUT please stop with the silly, it's a pre-Thanksgiving miracle situation as if no coaching staff has ever pulled something like this off before [ again 15 starters back, 2 D-1 players and some good tough football players with varsity experience}. Let's give the kids who aren't awful athletes and poor players some credit here and stop calling it a miracle and a coaching magic act. It's not. The tone from some isas if they were 2-8 last year getting blown out and had little starters back and now have beaten a couple undefeated teams in the play-offs. Some said the team was bad pre-season and even with a ton of starters BACK had nothing. I wasn't one of them. Thought 7-3 was the floor. Depended on the draw as ton how far they went in the post season the draw has been good the team has performed really well, and the coaching staff has been outstanding as have the kids. They were never a no hope team this year nor a juggernaut. They are what they are, and they do what they do and they have played up to their potential at the right time of the year the last month and the staff and kids deserve a ton of credit and fully deserve to be playing still GO ROCKS

Hey WJOSU West Jeff the dog too this week , they have a chance?

WJ is a spread team so there is a punchers chance but Garaway is a 27 pt favorite. WJ has 4 Seniors on the oline, a good sophomore qb (coaches son) and 2 good wr’s but start 7 sophomores on defense. Next 2 years should be far better. The current sophomore class & 8th grade class (8-0, gave up 18 pts) should be a tough out in 2025.

WJ current senior class at one time had an Air Force DE commit (6’3”, 250) and rb who ran for over 4000 career yards (2000 this year). Add two all state DII and DIV players to a DVI roster - might help on a Friday night. One moved after their freshman year & one moved after their sophomore year. But, life happens - parents get job offers & move. Great opportunities for those kids & their families but they still are WJ kids.

A lot of very good players have gone through Dublin over the last 25 years but I’d still put RB Vince Workman as the best to come out of Dublin. A great player, one of Central Ohio’s best rb’s ever.
 
Tons of parity this year in Ohio D-1 HS football outside of Ed's of course who is on a different level. Big Moe is close to them but there is a bit of a gap there. Lakota is peaking a bit playing good defense and as a 12-point dog may be able to hang with Big Moe? We saw both PN and Gahanna go down without scoring an offensive TD with the talent they had? There was talent lost no question from the transfer situations but still a bit of a shock. Not in losing per se but the way they lost. Hoban set out to become a football superpower and things have worked out pretty well overall. They have a date with Walsh Jesuit who went through a down period but is back but lost to Hoban by almost 50. It happens, sometimes the ball gets rolling downhill and you can't stop it. They are 19-point favs over WJ tomorrow. Walsh playing better now but still a tough one to process. Teams are so different sometimes week to week, Head scratching close wins as huge favs and blowout losses as small dogs. Hoban has looked human at times and like the juggernaut adn bully at other times.

Covid changed College football in the short term with kids being allowed additional eligibility and starting in 2021 the term SUPER Senior became part of the CFB lexicon. Going back to 2004 been handicapping CFB seriously and that was one of my best years ever and one where I applied myself did a lot of work but got some breaks. Still remember being at Cosmos on Frantz Road laughing with the guys at my good fortune. I would look up and see a back door cover followed by a front door meaningless TD tacked on to win another. Good work and good fortune. Missed FG needed? Got it two of three times. Won the TO battle in games I played overall. Just like actual football teams like say in HS Hilliard Bradley. Cont.
 
Tons of parity this year in Ohio D-1 HS football outside of Ed's of course who is on a different level. Big Moe is close to them but there is a bit of a gap there. Lakota is peaking a bit playing good defense and as a 12-point dog may be able to hang with Big Moe? We saw both PN and Gahanna go down without scoring an offensive TD with the talent they had? There was talent lost no question from the transfer situations but still a bit of a shock. Not in losing per se but the way they lost. Hoban set out to become a football superpower and things have worked out pretty well overall. They have a date with Walsh Jesuit who went through a down period but is back but lost to Hoban by almost 50. It happens, sometimes the ball gets rolling downhill and you can't stop it. They are 19-point favs over WJ tomorrow. Walsh playing better now but still a tough one to process. Teams are so different sometimes week to week, Head scratching close wins as huge favs and blowout losses as small dogs. Hoban has looked human at times and like the juggernaut adn bully at other times.

Covid changed College football in the short term with kids being allowed additional eligibility and starting in 2021 the term SUPER Senior became part of the CFB lexicon. Going back to 2004 been handicapping CFB seriously and that was one of my best years ever and one where I applied myself did a lot of work but got some breaks. Still remember being at Cosmos on Frantz Road laughing with the guys at my good fortune. I would look up and see a back door cover followed by a front door meaningless TD tacked on to win another. Good work and good fortune. Missed FG needed? Got it two of three times. Won the TO battle in games I played overall. Just like actual football teams like say in HS Hilliard Bradley. Cont.

Agree, if there ever was a year for a public D1 school to get a state title this may be it. However, there doesn’t appear to be a great public D1 school out there this year.

Hard to believe a St Ed’s team that is a defending state champ, has 3 D1 olinemen (2 OSU, 1 Michigan) and a DE going to ND - people feel/think they may be right for the taking.
 
Agree, if there ever was a year for a public D1 school to get a state title this may be it. However, there doesn’t appear to be a great public D1 school out there this year.

Hard to believe a St Ed’s team that is a defending state champ, has 3 D1 olinemen (2 OSU, 1 Michigan) and a DE going to ND - people feel/think they may be right for the taking.
I have watched the last 2 D1 state championship games, difference between Eds and Springfield was the Oline and Dline. Doesn't sound like Eds line play has dropped off any.
 
Bradley had some back and some key guys including the QB but it's their turnover margin that has loomed large. Improved defense and line play of course but consistently wining the TO battle is huge. 2021 We had a very solid CFB season getting off to a good start without the good luck but took advantage of the changing dynamic in the post Covid [But still kind of Covid} year. Futures were solid, as they were last year not much a need to hedge or find alternative win totals in season. The landscape changed from 2020 - 2022 where we had that great 5-week blitz to garner a profit last year really nailing totals during late October through mid-November. 2021 was a pretty solid year overall . This year with the new NIL creating a free agency that hasn't been seen has seen many top guys in the biz have tougher goes in CFB where many heavily played games have gone down. Last week the late-night action including San Jose St. was hugely popular with sharps and thankfully came in . Many haven't. ben a weird year with a team like Air Force losing two games handily as a near 20-point favorite in back-to-back weeks. The variance of games outcomes going against sharp handicapping systems has been giving some of the best as I said down years in CFB. I am just talking about games here and what i think and or are doing, but not giving advice or advising. Most aren't playing the games or reading those posts, and some don't; know anything about the current landscape of wagering. Props, in game stuff, totals in play etc. I don't post here everything I am doing and that isn't saying I am crushing it with the games I don't include here but it's a large number when you factor in play stuff. NFL totals I haven't been really sharing. Been a tougher year this year in CFB but NFL teasers and totals are turning a profit and straight plays have bene treading water.

College football is in a different phase., Teams are sometimes heavily free agent oriented making for some disjointed wildly fluctuations in performance. College hoops is my bread and butter and while I like football more as a sport, that's the best way to be profitable and even that is getting tougher to do. Hope to finish strong and have a good bowl season and adjust better next year to this new era.


Agree, if there ever was a year for a public D1 school to get a state title this may be it. However, there doesn’t appear to be a great public D1 school out there this year.

Hard to believe a St Ed’s team that is a defending state champ, has 3 D1 olinemen (2 OSU, 1 Michigan) and a DE going to ND - people feel/think they may be right for the taking.
ED's to me is too strong and will bag another. Hope I'm wrong and a public does win but they may have too much.
 
What the players are saying speaks loudly about their appreciation of the culture turnaround in the program. I’ve been fortunate to witness this as well as the past 50 years of Dublin Football.
What “culture” turnaround? How does one go from inheriting a winning culture, to posting a couple sub .500 seasons, to now a “turnaround” of a culture? You are a too funny. There are posts from the beginning of the season as shining examples of your flip-flopping.

To stay with my consistency from the beginning, Stokes is no doubt a great coach, have to be to win a state championship at any division. He still hasn’t done anything miraculous at Coffman. As stated many times, there really wasn’t anywhere to go upwards short of a state title-program wise for Stokes, which is why the bashing of the past never made sense. For those that don’t know, according to AHM, the previous coach (who never finished a season below 6-4), promoted an awful culture that saw multiple Coffman graduates land in prison (not really but that’s how it’s told to outsiders). How does a program have an awful culture when it’s consistently winning, year in year out, kind of counter-intuitive, no?

Good to see Coffman back in the Regional Finals as was a typical landing spot in the past. Good luck to the Rocks.
 
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