fballtrck073360
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Does anyone know where to find the results for the prelims of the Coaches Classic at Winton Woods?
The stunner for me was Moeller beating Mason at Mason. Mason, IMHO, looks like the best boys teams in Cincy this year, or are they? I've known a lot of Moeller coaches since the 1970s. Moe has had their ups and downs. I know the current coaches at Moeller have been working really hard to revive the great Moe tradition in track. They appear on the brink of doing just that this year. Moe has not been a major factor since they won back to back GCLS titles around 2004. All of a sudden Moeller aprears once again to have become a city power overnight. Wow! I'm impressed.
While I agree that Moeller has impressed, I still wouldn't put them ahead of Mason after the Prelims of the Coaches Classic. When you're just running to qualify, places don't matter at all, as long as you are in the top 4. I'm assuming that a few of the Mason guys, especially in distance where Mason dominates Moe, could have placed higher had they been worried about a team victory.
... but what are ya gonna do?
As Lancer said, Affatato has some crow to eat.
Yeah because he knew there was going to be an issue with the equipment at Mason for the prelims.
Seriously get over it. It's not like it resulted in the wrong kids getting to the finals or anything.
Tell that to the deserving sprint kids/relays getting bumped from the fast heat to slow heat, or into a crappy lane, because they were at a quarter-second disadvantage to four Mason qualifiers per event.
Place should be seeded before time anyways (Rule 5-6-5). Nobody should get bumped to a "slow heat" because of MT to FAT. Lane assignments could possibly be affected, but you're looking at whether they're in lane 4 vs 5 or 1 vs 8. Not 4 vs 8.
Add .24 onto all the 100, 200, and 100/110 hurdle qualifiers.
As Lancer said, Affatato has some crow to eat.
They tried to do the FAT, but the system wouldn't boot up. So we had to go with MT. I was a bit surprised myself, but what are ya gonna do?
I agree 100%. I've always felt at least the winners from each site should be seeded into prime lanes by place, primarily because of different track orientations and wind conditions, and would not have a problem if all qualifiers were assigned by prelim place
I'm wondering if the severe weather the night before had some kind of effect. Regardless we ran very well, as did Mason, so being seeded where we are isn't really that shocking. I mean look at the other results. 1:59 to make finals in the 800, 8:17 first in the 4x8, 43 to make finals in the 300 hurdles. We had a very tough prelim site, and guys ran a little harder because of it. Consequently the marks from our site were a bit better regardless of MT
Before everyone gets too excited about the team title implications, don't forget it was spring break for a number of schools...
Just look at the boys 800 meter prelim at Mason compared to the other sites and you would be able to see that something needs changing.
For those to lazy to look up the results, NONE of the qualifiers from the other sites would have qualified at Mason. Something needs to be changed in the future so that thew most deserving runners are competing in the finals.
Short of splitting individual teams by event(a ridiculous idea) there's no way you're going to eliminate the chance that an event or two out of thirty-four at a site might being loaded in a given year. I know Gerstner puts great effort in reviewing team strengths/weaknesses from year to year, and sometimes moves a team or two in the interest of sprint/distance/field balance. From my observations he does a pretty good job.
So, he might have a point for the boys. But, it'd be awful tough to balance the girls any better than that.