Does Biden fit those standards for you? I deal in the world of what's possible. I wanted DeSantis but Trump is the nominee. Trumps policies are infinitely better then Biden's and America can survive Trump's supposed low "moral and behavioral standards" a lot better then we could survive 4 more years of Biden.
Chronicles Of The 2024 Presidential Election Part 2
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Omega
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RNC Chair Michael Whatley Vows Presence 'In the Room' When Votes Cast, Counted Come November
Newl RNC chairman Michael Whatley has renewed a previous vow that poll workers are “going to be in the room” when early votes are cast and counted in November.
www.breitbart.com
Too little to late Mr. Whatley? Republicans needed to figure out the new election paradigm at least two years ago to get on equal footing with Democrats in the balloting game.
cabezadecaballo
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I think that there are a fair amount of people that understand exactly what happened with the election in 2020 and 2022 on the Republican side. I think some are willing to play chicken with our future, and will not spend money to benefit Trump. In particular, I think others believe that they can outlast Trump, and would like a chance to abuse the system exactly the way it is now, after DJT is down the road and no longer a presidential consideration. If he loses in November, he could run in 2028, but I think his support would fall away, due to his age. All the anti-Trumper Republicans see and understand this full well. I think each one of the TDS ‘Pubs has their own calculation in their head to get around Trump.RNC Chair Michael Whatley Vows Presence 'In the Room' When Votes Cast, Counted Come November
Newl RNC chairman Michael Whatley has renewed a previous vow that poll workers are “going to be in the room” when early votes are cast and counted in November.
Too little to late Mr. Whatley? Republicans needed to figure out the new election paradigm at least two years ago to get on equal footing with Democrats in the balloting game.
Omega
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It is a sad commentary on the state of the nation that our leadership choices are between such terribly flawed candidates. Trump is an egotistical bully and swindler. Biden is a career political grifter and has become frail. Both have sexual appetites that are outside the norm.
That leaves us with a choice on issues. My hot button issues are immigration and the ever growing power of government. A second Trump presidency gives me hope that growth of government and the invasion of migrants will be temporarily slowed. Thus my vote will be for Trump.
He is already discussing a third term.
A successful Trump administration will also help usher in back to back DeSantis administrations.
Brownsfan19
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But it's ok if Trump and every politician since the beginning of politics panders??
There's pandering and then there is Joe Biden level pandering!
Brownsfan19
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Gotcha. Typical
Omega
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I thought we are looking at Obama's fourth term.
Omega
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The White House released new details for Biden's second attempt at broader student-debt relief.
Vote buying at the highest level of the art form. As to the howls of protest from Republicans against this proposal: "crickets".
Vote buying at the highest level of the art form. As to the howls of protest from Republicans against this proposal: "crickets".
Sadly, this was literally a few years ago.
BGFalcons82
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It was a state’s issue back in the 70s before SCOTUS decided to add lawmaking to their Constitutional duties.
Trump wants to return it to its rightful location. This is clearly a 10th Amendment application.
SayMyName
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It’s beginning to look a lot like 2016
In politics, anything can happen. But at the rate things are going, Donald Trump seems increasingly likely to return to the Oval Office. Last week, two-time presidential loser Hillary Clinton…
thehill.com
SayMyName
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Trump Moderating on Abortion Is Biden's Worst Nightmare
The reality is that a Trump who moderates his stance on abortion is a Trump that Joe Biden fears challenging in November.
www.newsweek.com
Right before he quite Covid, crashed the economy and held an insurrection at the Capitol. GO MAGA!
SayMyName
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#Trumpwreckedme. LOL
SayMyName
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Will Black Voters Back Republicans? A Political Science Perspective
Horse-race polls in the 2024 rematch typically show Donald Trump attracting in the neighborhood of 20% of the black vote, which would be a historically strong showing.
Most of the black voters still voted Democratic in the autumn general election. But what if they didn’t? What if the rise of progressive white Democrats who emphasize social issues heavily really does raise the salience of a battery of issues that “lunchpail" black Democrats aren’t that interested in, or even oppose?
This is the most commonly talked about explanation for the current polling numbers. I think there’s something to it; at the very least the cleavage in the Democratic coalition here is real. But for it to really start to break off a substantial number of black Democrats, some version of 1 and/or 2 probably has to happen as well.
SayMyName
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With or without Biden, Democrats are stuck with Kamala Harris
There is one certainty in 2024’s tumultuous campaign: If Biden goes, Harris stays.
thehill.com
Omega
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US inflation spikes 3.5% in March, casting further doubts on Fed’s rate cuts
US inflation had another hot month in March, rising 3.5% — the latest data point that throws doubt on whether the Federal Reserve will actually begin to cut interest rates as early as June. T…
nypost.com
What impact will inflation have on the presidential election? Or will Team Biden continue to frame the main issue of Donald Trump being an existential threat to American democracy?
What we need is trumps plan to tame inflation with mass deportation, 10% tariffs and a massive tax cut for corporations and the billionaires.US inflation spikes 3.5% in March, casting further doubts on Fed’s rate cuts
US inflation had another hot month in March, rising 3.5% — the latest data point that throws doubt on whether the Federal Reserve will actually begin to cut interest rates as early as June. T…
What impact will inflation have on the presidential election? Or will Team Biden continue to frame the main issue of Donald Trump being an existential threat to American democracy?
AllSports12
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Wait, you’ve been telling us for a year that Biden took care of the inflation problem.
See what happens when you have no views of your own and only repeat what you are told to say ?
Omega
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I believe my question in the post was how will Team Biden frame or spin the inflation report. Not what Trump may or not do. Yet I commend your implementation of Alinsky and Cloward-Piven strategies to never cease attacking what you oppose. It must be delightful to go through life never having to engage in critical thinking!
SayMyName
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I can't remember Trump claiming to be a truck driving Puerto African descendant of Irish coal miners.
SayMyName
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Trump, RFK Jr. and the Disillusioned Black Voter
Working-class minorities are less concerned with identity politics than they are with the economy.
WSJ
By
Jason L. Riley
April 9, 2024 3:23 pm ET
When Sen. Ted Kennedy ran for president in 1980, his nephew Robert F. Kennedy Jr. served as a campaign surrogate. According to “The Kennedys: An American Drama,” a 1984 biography of the family by Peter Collier and David Horowitz, Bobby Jr. would visit black churches in the South and tell congregants that black people were “worse off now than they’ve ever been in the history of this country.” When a historian advised him to stop saying that because it wasn’t true, Mr. Kennedy replied, “You’re right, but it always gets applause that way, so I think I’ll leave it in.”
More than four decades later, Mr. Kennedy is still trafficking in misinformation. In 2021 he produced a one-hour documentary that peddled conspiracy theories about vaccines being designed to harm black people. During the pandemic, blacks were underrepresented among the vaccinated and overrepresented among Covid deaths. A 2022 analysis of the literature on vaccine hesitancy published in the Journal of Racial and Ethnic Health Disparities concluded that “mistrust of the medical establishment” and “uncertainty in vaccine safety” were top concerns of black Americans.
The recent collapse of No Labels as a third-party alternative almost surely helps President Biden’s re-election bid, but Mr. Kennedy’s independent candidacy still presents a problem for Democrats. Donald Trump’s improvement in the polls among minorities has garnered more attention, but don’t discount Mr. Kennedy’s appeal to black voters. On racism, Mr. Kennedy can cite his family’s support for civil rights and voting rights. On gun violence, he can talk about losing his own father, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, to an assassin in 1968. When the topic turns to substance abuse, he can invoke his own youthful struggles with heroin addiction.
It’s understood that Mr. Kennedy isn’t going to become the next president, but he remains the most likely third-party candidate to influence the outcome of the race. The RealClearPolitics average of polls puts his support at just under 10%, well ahead of Cornel West (1.9%) and Jill Stein (1.5%). Historically, third-party candidacies fade as Election Day approaches, but Mr. Kennedy’s familiar name could make him an exception. Even without qualifying for the ballot in every state, as a write-in candidate Mr. Kennedy could have a major effect on who wins the presidency this year.
In 2016 Mr. Trump beat Hillary Clinton thanks to roughly 80,000 votes in three states—Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. In 2020, 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin delivered the presidency to Mr. Biden. What these narrow margins in the past two presidential elections suggest is that even if Mr. Kennedy’s support drops to half its current level, he’s still a danger to Messrs. Biden and Trump in swing states that are expected to determine the victor.
Among whites, education and gender have long been reliable indicators of how someone will vote. The most Democratic group is college-educated women. The most Republican voting bloc is men without college degrees. Traditionally, the nonwhite vote hasn’t broken down the same way, but as Ronald Brownstein wrote in the Atlantic recently, that may be starting to change. Significant percentages of black and Latino working-class men moved away from the Democratic Party in 2020. Polls show them continuing to drift in that direction and voting more like working-class whites.
If Mr. Trump is driving the trend, he may be getting some help from Mr. Kennedy, an antiestablishment populist with similar appeal. A Morning Consult survey this week showed that the share of the black vote with a favorable view of Mr. Kennedy had climbed to 51% from 38% in polling conducted before and after he chose Nicole Shanahan as his running mate last month.
According to Mr. Brownstein, the working-class blacks and Hispanics who are abandoning Democrats don’t otherwise resemble the typical MAGA voter. They aren’t especially enamored of Mr. Trump, and most aren’t ideologically aligned with the former president. Instead, the rift has been opened by a deep disaffection with the state of the economy as it relates to their everyday lives. For college-educated voters, inflation is more of an annoyance. For the working class, it’s a much bigger deal.
We won’t know if this shift in minority voting patterns is a temporary phenomenon or indicative of a lasting political realignment until Mr. Trump leaves the stage. But if black voters in particular no longer believe that racial identity should determine which political party they support, this is progress.
In our two-party system, better political representation derives from playing Democrats against Republicans, not offering undying loyalty to one side. And heaven knows black voters could use better political representation. Perhaps the black working class will show the way.