Centerville Elite 8

 
MyNameIsDoug? said:
I can’t see Darby having much success at this one. Think we’re likely looking at an all GCL final
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Where this would be the easy assumption, Elder and X will be playing the night before the Elite. You have to think this will have some affect on how both teams perform. Also, with the uncertainty of Moeller's starting setter, that could play another big role..
 
Totally agree. Survive and advance will be the name of the game. It going to be a long 24 hours for X and Elder.
 
TheDude said:
Where this would be the easy assumption, Elder and X will be playing the night before the Elite. You have to think this will have some affect on how both teams perform. Also, with the uncertainty of Moeller's starting setter, that could play another big role..
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In that case, I could definitely see Centerville and/or Iggy in the final. Think Northmont and Olentangy are a step below that top tier, while Darby is below those two. Whoever loses between Elder and X could be in for a tough Saturday after what will undoubtedly be a draining Friday. I still think an all GCL final is likely
 
The seeds have always been based off the state rankings from the prior week. Only guesswork is if there is a division 2 team included, which is not the case this year.

State ranking from last week would have the seeds as follows:

1. Elder
2. St X
3. Moeller
4. St. Ignatius
5. Centerville
6. Olentangy Liberty
7. Darby
8. Northmont

I would guess St Ignatius drops 2 spots below Liberty after 2 losses this past week
 
New state rankings just released. Darby and Northmont could be interchanged, but I will assume:

1. Elder
2. St X
3. Moeller
4. Centerville
5. Olentangy Liberty
6. St. Ignatius
7. Northmont
8. Darby
 
Darby and Northmont are both outside of the state top 10, but I still think Darby comes in ranked over Northmont.

Going to be a tough Elite to call with the Elder-X matchup the night before, Moeller injury, and some teams starting to string together wins with others on a cold streak, but here are my predictions.

Elder over Northmont in 4 (Resting starters in game 2 or 3 and Northmont might just steal a game like they did last week)
X over Darby in 3
Ignatius over Moe in 5
Centerville over Liberty in 4

Elder over Centerville in 3
X over Ignatius in 3
Liberty over Northmont in 3
Moeller over Darby in 3

1st Place - Elder over X in 5
3rd Place - Centerville over Ignatius in 4
5th Place - Moeller over Liberty in 4
7th Place - Darby over Northmont in 5
 
Confirmed seeding for the Elite:

1. Elder
2. St X
3. Moeller
4. Centerville
5. Olentangy Liberty
6. St. Ignatius
7. Northmont
8. Darby
 
TheDude said:
Confirmed seeding for the Elite:

1. Elder
2. St X
3. Moeller
4. Centerville
5. Olentangy Liberty
6. St. Ignatius
7. Northmont
8. Darby
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Elder 3-0 Darby
St X 3-0 Northmont
St I 3-2 Moeller
Cville 3-2 Liberty

Elder 3-1 CVille
St X 3-0 St I
Liberty 3-0 Darby
Moe 3-1 Northmont

St X 3-2 Elder *
Cville 3-1 St I
Liberty 3-2 Moe
Northmont 3-1 Darby

*I think Elder beats St X on Friday night 3-0 at home
 
Elder over Darby in 3
St X over Northmont in 4
Moeller over St Ignatius in 4
Centerville over Olentangy Liberty in 4

Elder over Centerville in 4
St X over Moeller in 5
Olentangy Liberty over Darby in 5
St Ignatius over Northmont in 4

Elder over St X in 4
Centerville over Moeller in 4
St Ignatius over Olentangy Liberty in 4
Northmont over Darby in 5
 
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adselder09 said:
Elder over Darby in 3
St X over Northmont in 4
Moeller over St Ignatius in 4
Centerville over Olentangy Liberty in 4

Elder over Centerville in 4
St X over Moeller in 5
Olentangy Liberty over Darby in 5
St Ignatius over Northmont in 4

Elder over St X in 4
Centerville over Moeller in 4
St Ignatius over Olentangy Liberty in 4
Northmont over Darby in 513-478-7804
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Might want to remove that phone number at the bottom ?
 
Elder over Darby in 3
St X over Northmont in 3
Moeller over St Ignatius in 4
Centerville over Olentangy Liberty in 4

Elder over Centerville in 5
St X over Moeller in 5
Olentangy Liberty over Darby in 3
St Ignatius over Northmont in 4

St X over Elder in 4
Centerville over Moeller in 5
St Ignatius over Olentangy Liberty in 5
Northmont over Darby 3
 
Elder over Darby in 3
X over Northmont in 4
St. I’s over Moeller in 5
Centerville over Liberty in 4

Elder over Centerville in 3
X over St. I’s in 4
Liberty over Darby in 4
Moe over Northmont in 4

Elder over X in 4
Centerville over St. I’s in 4
Moe over Liberty in 5
Northmont over Darby in 4
 
What’s the history/correlation with this tournament’s champion and the state champion? I thought someone posted last year.
 
I wonder if Walnut was invited to this. Seems like a big oversight to not include them based on how they did last year and where they finished in the state polls. Unless they're trying to limit the number of Cincy teams and get more from all over the state.
 
I think they have always had at least one representative from every region. So you would either remove Darby (Been a participant almost every year), Northmont, or Liberty.

Also, with Walnut getting a new coach this year, the scheduling could have fallen on the AD who wouldn't have known the prestige of the Elite and turned it down. That is all speculation on my part though, who knows if Walnut was even asked. It will still be a very competitive weekend of volleyball
 
Brambleberry said:
I think they have always had at least one representative from every region. So you would either remove Darby (Been a participant almost every year), Northmont, or Liberty.

Also, with Walnut getting a new coach this year, the scheduling could have fallen on the AD who wouldn't have known the prestige of the Elite and turned it down. That is all speculation on my part though, who knows if Walnut was even asked. It will still be a very competitive weekend of volleyball
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For one, I doubt Walnut was asked just from a tradition point of view, and although they were more of a known quantity in the Cincinnati area, around the state less so (as evidenced by the early polls not having them in the top 10). So, Centerville may not have realized they'd be back and as strong as they are after losing players to graduation.

Two, by looking at their schedule (or lack thereof) the scheduling was not handled well as they don't have many matches (could be the new coach, could be the AD, could be both), and in between the X and Elder matches they don't have much of a challenge. The GCL teams always look to challenge themselves to prepare for the tournament run.

All that to say, I wish Walnut was playing this weekend as well. Would be good to see them against some other good teams. Until they play Elder, it's hard to pin them down.
 
Falcon11 said:
For one, I doubt Walnut was asked just from a tradition point of view, and although they were more of a known quantity in the Cincinnati area, around the state less so (as evidenced by the early polls not having them in the top 10). So, Centerville may not have realized they'd be back and as strong as they are after losing players to graduation.

Two, by looking at their schedule (or lack thereof) the scheduling was not handled well as they don't have many matches (could be the new coach, could be the AD, could be both), and in between the X and Elder matches they don't have much of a challenge. The GCL teams always look to challenge themselves to prepare for the tournament run.

All that to say, I wish Walnut was playing this weekend as well. Would be good to see them against some other good teams. Until they play Elder, it's hard to pin them down.
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Well said. They should definitely be playing a top-tier schedule this year, but I'm not sure when the new coach was hired so maybe he didn't have time? Or didn't know the process? I guess they can't do much with their conference, although Loveland isn't bad. But outside of the GCL and Sycamore, they're not doing much to challenge themselves. Would've been nice to see Centerville, Beavercreek, Badin, Carroll, CJ, etc. on the schedule at least.

Also, their schedule on the OHSBVA website is definitely not complete, as they're missing 2 matches from the Moeller quad at the beginning of the year. I believe their record might be 7-3? Think they lost all 3 at that quad and have wins against Milford and Loveland that aren't yet recorded on the site, but haven't dropped a match since that quad (with their middles actually playing now; Welden has been nice on offense and Moyer puts up a very strong block).
 
MyNameIsDoug? said:
Well said. They should definitely be playing a top-tier schedule this year, but I'm not sure when the new coach was hired so maybe he didn't have time? Or didn't know the process? I guess they can't do much with their conference, although Loveland isn't bad. But outside of the GCL and Sycamore, they're not doing much to challenge themselves. Would've been nice to see Centerville, Beavercreek, Badin, Carroll, CJ, etc. on the schedule at least.

Also, their schedule on the OHSBVA website is definitely not complete, as they're missing 2 matches from the Moeller quad at the beginning of the year. I believe their record might be 7-3? Think they lost all 3 at that quad and have wins against Milford and Loveland that aren't yet recorded on the site, but haven't dropped a match since that quad (with their middles actually playing now; Welden has been nice on offense and Moyer puts up a very strong block).
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Agreed. Would be nice to see a tougher schedule. Also, I was at the Moeller quad beginning of the year. Walnut lost to Louisville St X (1-3 I think) but beat Fishers (3-1 I think). So the only in-state loss is Moeller, and both of their losses came the same day. And I think they could have beaten Louisville St X with their middles. Possibly Moeller as well.
 
Falcon11 said:
Agreed. Would be nice to see a tougher schedule. Also, I was at the Moeller quad beginning of the year. Walnut lost to Louisville St X (1-3 I think) but beat Fishers (3-1 I think). So the only in-state loss is Moeller, and both of their losses came the same day. And I think they could have beaten Louisville St X with their middles. Possibly Moeller as well.
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Got it. Not sure why I thought they lost all 3 at that quad. Totally agree that they could’ve beaten those teams with their middles. They may have lost to Moe in 3, but, from what I recall, it was a very tight 3. Love to see a public school challenging the status quo.
 
This is when the COVID lost season is starting to show. Losing an entire year creates for a shake up across the board. If any year was the one where Walnut takes a step, this would be it. Or even next year if they get their studs seasoned.
 
CK123 said:
This is when the COVID lost season is starting to show. Losing an entire year creates for a shake up across the board. If any year was the one where Walnut takes a step, this would be it. Or even next year if they get their studs seasoned.
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The current seniors were sophomores in 2020, juniors were freshman. And every school lost that year, so I'm confused on what you're trying to say I guess.
 
Maybe the point is that the average level of player dropped due to the lost year, but since Walnut has 2 outsides playing club at a very high level that has helped them to close the gap even more?

In terms of becoming an elite player at the state level, the more reps you can get early on (Freshman-Sophomore year) is absolutely vital. So when we lost the covid year, those kids that weren't playing club at the time lost an entire year of competitive touches.

Like Falcon said though, the Covid year affected everyone. I think it's more the fact that Wheatley, Tombragel, and Smith-Trondle just might be the best trio of players in the state and Walnut's role players are also club players who have improved significantly more than they would have without those extra reps
 
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