Canceling Games. Not making up league games

HiTime

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I hope teams that don't want to play cancel early enough to give the other team plenty of time to play.

Also, with everything going on this would be a good year not to make up league games.
 

MCGal

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Why would you not make up league games? Those should take priority. Oh wait you're a Hiland fan. Never mind lol
 

MCGal

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I do but I don't... you can't ditch on league games no matter how bad they may be. They should let your girls out of that league until it's more competitive.
 

K-1122

Member
Don't know why Hiland actually doesn't leave the IVC....I really can't say what their options would be but -

-They don't have a football team, which usually drives league affiliation
-There are no soccer teams in the IVC, they have both a girls and boys team
-And then there is the obvious reason discussed here

Additionally, they traditionally compete well in volleyball and girls soccer with non league larger schools and their boys soccer team has as well.
And boys basketball and baseball could handle a larger school schedule?
PAC7? or Independent (which they already essentially are in soccer)...just some thoughts.
 

HiTime

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K-1122. Actually there is a push by some parents of boys in the younger grades to start football or at least youth football. I love basketball but I would like to see Hiland get football. I don't know if basketball would veto the idea or not. There are a lot of younger boys that would rather play football and would like the opportunity.
 

K-1122

Member
Football would be a nice addition and doesn't directly compete with basketball...I would think that the already established boys soccer team would be the ones vetoing, especially since most smaller D3 schools cannot field both (why there's no soccer in the IVC), and why the Hiland boys soccer team excels, they have would be linebackers and running backs playing soccer.
If football was added, one could still try to move to the PAC-7 or stay put. Since this is about girls basketball, CVCA a PAC team just gave the Hawks all they could handle for three quarters last night?
 

NEOsportsfan09

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-There are no soccer teams in the IVC, they have both a girls and boys team
Does Sandy Valley and Tuscarawas Valley not have a boys soccer program anymore? As of a few years ago, I knew they each had one. Obviously, that's still a majority of IVC without soccer even if those two schools still have soccer.
 

Mr. Slippery

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Does Sandy Valley and Tuscarawas Valley not have a boys soccer program anymore? As of a few years ago, I knew they each had one. Obviously, that's still a majority of IVC without soccer even if those two schools still have soccer.
IVC schools with soccer programs (based on the 2020 district tournament brackets):
Girls - Hiland, Sandy Valley, Ridgewood
Boys - Hiland, Sandy Valley, Tusky Valley

I don't know about now, but Hiland's soccer programs competed for a long time in the Tri-County League which was a soccer-only league consisting of schools like: Hiland, Kidron Central Christian, Canton CC, St. Thomas Aquinas, WRA, Lake Center Christian, and Our Lady of the Elms. Akron St. V-M and CVCA (until more PAC schools added the sport) competed in the league many more years ago.
 

K-1122

Member
Yes, I misspoke stating no soccer in the IVC, really meant that the opportunity to play two league games with the Hiland girls is not even scheduled. No disrespect to Ridgewood or Sandy Valley...but the level of play is significantly different....
And the boys only play Tusky Valley (do they even consider that a league game with the winner the champion?), so soccer is really not considered a sport that the IVC competes in for championships.
The discussion topic centers around wouldn't a different league like the PAC-7 better serve Hiland athletics, specifically girls basketball and the soccer programs.
 

Mr. Slippery

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Yes, I misspoke stating no soccer in the IVC, really meant that the opportunity to play two league games with the Hiland girls is not even scheduled. No disrespect to Ridgewood or Sandy Valley...but the level of play is significantly different....
And the boys only play Tusky Valley (do they even consider that a league game with the winner the champion?), so soccer is really not considered a sport that the IVC competes in for championships.
The discussion topic centers around wouldn't a different league like the PAC-7 better serve Hiland athletics, specifically girls basketball and the soccer programs.
Soccer is not one of the fall sports listed on the IVC's website. Hence, Hiland's past involvement in the Tri-County League for that sport.

The PAC-7 will become an 8-team league after next year when Loudonville exits as a football-only member, and Canton South enters as a full member.

Aside from some lopsided girls basketball games, does Hiland have any real desire to leave the IVC?
 

K-1122

Member
Aside from some lopsided girls basketball games, does Hiland have any real desire to leave the IVC?
I honestly don't know and this discussion started with the enticing possibility presented by HiTime of the Lady Hawks not having to reschedule some IVC games. Athletic departments have numerous reasons for changing leagues and as far as I know, they drive the bus on any move with board approval. It just seems that there would be more than just the advantage of a more competitive league for the girls basketball team to facilitate a move. Most coaches and players have league titles as an initial goal each year...a new league that the soccer programs could be involved in just seems like another valid reason? It's kind of ironic though, that their strong soccer team play no league games and are free to schedule to and above their level of play...exactly what the girls basketball team would probably like to do, and with them...league titles are understood, state championships are always the one and only goal.
 

NEOsportsfan09

Active member
Yes, I misspoke stating no soccer in the IVC, really meant that the opportunity to play two league games with the Hiland girls is not even scheduled. No disrespect to Ridgewood or Sandy Valley...but the level of play is significantly different....
And the boys only play Tusky Valley (do they even consider that a league game with the winner the champion?), so soccer is really not considered a sport that the IVC competes in for championships.
The discussion topic centers around wouldn't a different league like the PAC-7 better serve Hiland athletics, specifically girls basketball and the soccer programs.
I just wanted to clarify I didn't mean any animosity by it. I haven't been at any IVC games in any sport in the past couple years, so I didn't know if there was anyone other than Hiland left in soccer in the conference. I hear a lot of people say soccer participation has been going up in past decade, so I thought it was interesting that there could be some schools out there that lost their soccer programs.

I understand what you mean now and I apologize for derailing this topic.

As for Hiland girls basketball, I agree with you and those 12 games they have in the IVC don't help them out getting any better. Having their "B" team play those schools gave them a chance to develop those kids while their "A" team would get ready for tournament. I saw they moved schools around a bit where the schools that have been competitive in girls basketball lately, are all in Hiland's side of conference (Tuscarawas Valley, Sandy Valley, Garaway).
 
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